GOLD is due for about a 30% +/- CORRECTION, let me convince you in this thread, page 1
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Topic started on 4-12-2009 @ 08:43 PM by GreenBicMan
This thread will most likely not be too controversial, but I believe nonetheless it should be posted.

We know historically in the markets when something goes STRAIGHT UP or STRAIGHT DOWN that this is a preceding move to another violent move the OTHER WAY.

Such was a case in the market earlier this year, and I believe this is happening in GOLD right now. I am going to convince you of this by using:

1. Historical price movement

2. Linear Regression

First, this is

a) a WEEKLY CHART of GLD (Gold ETF - tracks very accurately)

b) from late 2005 I believe until present


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This is very simple, only a couple things to look at.

1. The 3 lines are the model for the linear regression setup. You will notice back in 2008 when we touched the top linear regression resistance we took about a 35 pt loss from 100 to 65 area

2. The green lines
- Top one is the first price target - right around 100, now notice how this intersects the MIDDLE LINEAR REGRESSION LINE and the SUPPORT from the PREVIOUS RESISTANCE

- Bottom Green Line would be the place of last support for this current rally in gold. Notice how this area as well coincides with a lot of consolidation from late 2008.

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Now I am far from a "gold bug" but I do not see this rally ending in gold, even though I believe we have hit a big resistance here. In the coming weeks we will find out how strong gold really is. It has been in an enormous rally, and like everyone knows, no one knows the future -

The last correction was 35% - but this one IMO will be less as it coincides with the BOTTOM LR Line and the CONSOLIDATION from late 2008 (support from volume)

Anyway, just food for thought before any of you decide you want to put all your piggy bank in this commodity which I have been seeing a lot lately. A lot of false reports etc. (IMO) that go along with this as well to lure RETAIL into gold, that scares me - should scare you too. Does anything think China will keep buying gold at historically high prices?? Maybe, and maybe gold just keeps going up and up and up and up - but lets be real - so just be careful is all.

Here is the chart

CHART


reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 08:58 PM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by Terces_Pot_Evoba



Gold Bullion loses value just like GLD the ETF.

If the spot price of gold is 1200 and loses 30%, so will you.



reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 09:23 PM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by sligtlyskeptical



While a lot of retail buying is pretty damn scary to me at least, the trend would still have to be my friend in this case - although anything is possible for certain


reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 10:00 PM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by FortAnthem



I do not know if any/both of these are "bubbles".

Although not everything goes straight up/straight down without a lot of "noise" inbetween.

Gold is bought by a lot of people for more than a few reasons I guess, but IMO if we are in a range, we are at the top of it currently


reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 10:03 PM by Xeven
reply to post by FortAnthem



Nah its just the Elite that are in control moving the cheese. They invest when its low then make up News and reports and advertisements to get everyone to buy in. At some point they will send the signal and the Elites will dump take their cash and move to the next bubble. If you don't get to greedy you can watch the cheese then sell early and wait for them to move the cheese again. Most people wait to long and end up losing. Someone has gota lose money for the Elite to make money without actually working for it.

Was housing then stocks now gold. Looks like to me the cheese is about to move again.


reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 10:11 PM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by projectvxn



I think gold moves higher as well - although when it moves too violently up that is either

a) bad overall

b) needs a correction

I think its "b" in this case - but mean reversion never hurt anyone in a bull tape


reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 10:31 PM by projectvxn
reply to post by GreenBicMan



In my opinion, the last thing we need is a bull run in the gold market. Because we all know what that means. I would prefer to see a correction in the near term, but I'm afraid that won't be the case, people are losing a lot of confidence in the dollar. And diversification away from the dollar is still on everyone's tongue...For once, it seems, it is more than just idle rhetoric.

If this trend is followed by more action(Like those rumors of Japan wanting to dump 100 billion in Treasuries to finance national spending) then we can see a case for a long term bull run on gold. But that too will come to an end quite violently in 2 to 5 years as the dollar is replaced and gold is priced using another currency, or a basket of currencies...Which is entirely possible.

There is also a potential for a forex crash based on lack of physical delivery...Let's hope all those gold buyers don't want their gold hidden away in the safe...There's about 100 ETFs for every ounce of gold available on the open market...If that is allowed to grow we may, indeed, be looking at the future collapse of the gold market.


reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 10:35 PM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by projectvxn



Well as long as we agree that it could be a short term top then I will chalk you up as one. As to the future, well that it is anyones guess.

Today was interesting in the mkt.

Dollar up

DOW up

That hasn't happened in a long time.

Employment report shows new faith in the dollar - but who knows what will happen down the line. My argument though is just a weekly short term top that looks like a good place to short this market etc.


reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 10:48 PM by projectvxn
reply to post by GreenBicMan



I saw that. I remember thinking how weird that is considering the environment...Maybe someone set a bunch of hundred dollar bills on fire somewhere.



reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 10:50 PM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by projectvxn



Im pretty sure the unemployment curve is now in "x" % within their model and im pretty sure this recovery is for real. We gained 2+ dollars on the YEN. Fridays are reversal days. Im sold on this, although I know others arent yet.

I am strongly bullish on the dollar as well - but that is another thread my friend


reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 10:59 PM by projectvxn
reply to post by GreenBicMan



You're what I term a permabull...But it's nice to have your optimism in these boards...You tend to check the pessimism. And even though I'm not bullish on much, I can appreciate your perspective and your accuracy for short term market moves...The long term, however, does not bode well for us.

There is an economic war afoot. Between the east and west. We're not the only ones in the position we are in. And there are those that seek to manipulate the situation. I posit that WW 3 is being fought right now, on the financial front. We may come out on top...But it's gonna hurt.


reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 11:02 PM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by projectvxn



I dont know about any of that haha, but I am one. I even call myself that on my profile, but that is 61.x% (positive thinkers) of the world my friend. Most are not represented on this board often, but I just happen to apply it to financial charts.

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reply posted on 4-12-2009 @ 11:09 PM by projectvxn
reply to post by GreenBicMan



It's nice to see the silver lining in things..But it's the drag net, where you and I can find the holes to squeeze between, there will be so many more who get caught up in it, and these people suffer. We are in a war. There are people out there who use finance as a weapon. The casualties are slow rising. Death comes but it is deferred. Homelessness, hunger, crushing debt, joblessness. We need to create millions of jobs, and we may go broke trying with the kind of incompetence we're seeing from governments around the world. There are other factors as well, like the derivatives bubble. Gold is such a small component of all of this, but it's moves should be seen as heralds of things to come, especially if sustained.

I too expected an uptick in "economic growth" but that is government money, and they can't do it forever. As far as jobs go..We can thank temps for the holiday season for that..Come January all of those people will be let go.

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