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Maybe the way to de-populate Earth is without the "vaccine"?

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posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 11:48 AM
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This is a conspiracy theory:

Instead of any national government using a vaccine to "depopulate" their nation:

Why not use the vaccination to control the population?

Hear me out. There's probably a post lurking around here that states this, but I'm going out on a limb anyways. We all are hearing about how the NWO wants to control the population by giving people a vaccination that's contaminated with other diseases.

What if the vaccine actually safe-guards you from the upcoming, pandemic events. In other words, if you DON'T take the vaccine, you will die. Since there are so many hard-core "anti-vaccine" advocates out there, they out number the pro-vaccine crowd, if you take the vaccine, you are immune to what they would introduce to actually do the job.

In other words, the amount of vaccine's available world-wide:

As of November 19, 2009 (2009 -11-19)
Important Topic Updates
, over 65 million doses of vaccine had been administered in over 16 countries; the vaccine seems safe and effective, producing a strong immune response that should protect against infection.

Wikipedia Source

So....65 million and counting that would be safe from whatever TPTB would introduce. Hmm....now that's another conspiracy theory!

To future posters: I am neither for, nor against any "vaccine". This is NOT a pro-vaccine thread. Just a conspiracy.

What say you fellow ATS'ers? It would make sense...

[edit on 4-12-2009 by havok] extra DIV




posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 12:03 PM
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That would definitely help with making sure that everyone stays a sheep
if everyone else was dead



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 12:07 PM
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Exactly. The theory is this:

If the people who took the vaccine survived, they probably would obey anything the government throws at them.

If we look at the amount of vaccines worldwide, it might soon add up to about 500 million. Just like the amount stated on the Georgia Guidestones!

You get it!



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by havok




Hear me out. There's probably a post lurking around here that states this, but I'm going out on a limb anyways.

What if the vaccine actually safe-guards you from the upcoming, pandemic events. In other words, if you DON'T take the vaccine, you will die. Since there are so many hard-core "anti-vaccine" advocates out there, they out number the pro-vaccine crowd, if you take the vaccine, you are immune to what they would introduce to actually do the job.


[edit on 4-12-2009 by havok]





There's probably a post lurking around here that states this, but I'm going out on a limb anyways.


There is such a post .
I posted this video there also , as an illustration of the knots one can turn themselves into when imagining a malevolent force seeks to kill them.

A Battle of Wits



A rabbit hole of infinite recursion.

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But this is the conspiracy forum , so why not examine the subject , there is always something new to learn .


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It of course all hinges on whether or not you believe such a collective of megalomaniacs exist , or rather that such a group has the required level of global integration for such a venture as a New World Order. All the while keeping this relatively unknown to majority of world citizenry through the Ages.

I don`t doubt for a minute that individuals / groups / Corporate entities etc seek to exercise greater power and authority over the lives of men , this has been the history of the world . I just don`t believe a group powerful enough to attempt such a dastardly plan(s) exists.

I think the `NWO` is an amalgamation of competing MEGA rich interests, who occasionally co operate for financial gains when the opportunity arises .
I could very well be wrong , but i just see people taking the greedy actions of many people/groups and condensing it down into the N.W.O, an archaic organisation bent on world domination .

What you think Havok ....... ?



posted on Dec, 5 2009 @ 05:51 AM
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think the `NWO` is an amalgamation of competing MEGA rich interests, who occasionally co operate for financial gains when the opportunity arises .
I could very well be wrong , but i just see people taking the greedy actions of many people/groups and condensing it down into the N.W.O, an archaic organisation bent on world domination .


I do believe an organization exists. Hell-bent on destroying life and freedoms of everyone, everywhere. Who is actually involved, we would never know, but I'm sure it involves the CFR, Tri-lateral Commission, and Bilderbergers.

Why would such groups meet up, at random locations, in "secret" (no MSM coverage), and then after the meetings, the worlds economy seems to change?

Try to answer that! (rhetorical)

It seems too clear that the writing is on the wall, a group of people want to control everything. I mean, look at the tax situation in every nation, its set up to pay taxes until you die (If You have a job, and want money).

The entire post was based on a thought. Instead of doing what the population is scared of, i.e., getting the vaccine, TPTB could do the opposite. Hey, it was obviously a good thought, because you did the same!



posted on Dec, 5 2009 @ 07:16 AM
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It would make sense. Surely if a NWO wanted to kill part of the world's population, they would go for the rebellious, not for the obedient.



posted on Dec, 5 2009 @ 10:05 AM
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No, this theory does NOT make sense.

How do TPTB control the amount of death in a real, Ebola type epidemic?

They CAN'T. They can't control whether the virus kills too many or not enough.
The virus could mutate, rendering the vaccinated elite and obedient slaves susceptible.
And that wouldn't be good for business, for the businesses that are supposed to survive.

By selectively poisoning a percentage of the vaccines, they can control the variables. Also, by having an initial period of "safe" vaccines that function as "photo opportunites" the critical personnel of selected businesses across the country can be prevented from receiving the bad vaccines that will be given in the emergency phase.

When the emergency is declared because of some sort of catalyst occuring (a mass death event from some sort of biological attack), the US will enact the Cities Readiness Initiative and will mass vaccinate a large portion of the population within 48 hrs (or serially mass vaccinate cities in 48 hrs week by week).

Anyway, this will all be a moot point in a very short time.



posted on Dec, 5 2009 @ 10:13 AM
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I find the OP very possible.

Yes, they have no control on how the virus could mutate, or ebola leaking out, but that just goes with the territory.



posted on Dec, 5 2009 @ 11:20 AM
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I made a post about this a while ago.....But it never caught on.

Basically reverse psychology.

They know we don't trust them.

The flu was created by them.

The vaccine works but it is still dagerous for some of course.

They keep chem spraying illness and add another mutated strand every week.

The vaccine stays in limited quantaties.

The demand of the vaccine rises as more people die.

They declare martial law due to panic and disorder as the controled vaccine trickles out while more and more die.

But who knows..... I wanna get past all this NWO, 2012 junk. I obsess with it but it is getting old.







[edit on 12/5/2009 by Chaos Lord]



posted on Dec, 5 2009 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by jcrash
No, this theory does NOT make sense.

How do TPTB control the amount of death in a real, Ebola type epidemic?

They CAN'T. They can't control whether the virus kills too many or not enough.


Its not about how many people the virus actually kills.

The theory is about giving a safe vaccine with, unknown to the populus, "added" vaccines that would safe guard against another outbreak, determined at a later date.
So, you get the vaccine, you are safe from H1N1 and, let's just say Eboli for example. Then a short time later, they introduce Eboli into the world, killing those who didn't accept the vaccine the first time.

Eboli is just an example, I know it can mutate, but Bubonic Plague could be another example. Or small pox, or even H2N8. (feline flu!
)


Just a theory in a crazy mind. I'm not saying this is going to happen. Sheesh.

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posted on Dec, 5 2009 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by havok

Originally posted by jcrash
No, this theory does NOT make sense.

How do TPTB control the amount of death in a real, Ebola type epidemic?

They CAN'T. They can't control whether the virus kills too many or not enough.




or even H2N8. (feline flu!
)




[edit on 5-12-2009 by havok]


would one of the symptoms be cat scratch fever?


sorry..i had to.



posted on Dec, 5 2009 @ 01:23 PM
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I see it this way,

65 million vaccinations? Compared to almost 7 billion people in the world?
They aren't going to let 6.9 billion people die are they? That is species extermination.

How much $ would selling 65 million vaccines all over the world generate?

I think the pharmaceutical giants created h1n1 and the vaccine for a few reasons;

1. To generate a huge profit in the short term for future research and planning. We are in a recession or depression so the corporations are just looking after themselves, so they can countine to lead the world in biomedical research.

2. To instill fear and trust into all of us. They want you to fear for your life. Many people are scared to death of getting h1n1 and dieing. Some of those people don't or can't research the real information on h1n1 and just go by what msm tells them. Trust, these people trust what they are being told and trust the vaccine will be effective. Big Phar. does not have a good reputation. What a better way to rebulid trust and brand recognition than to save everyone from a pandemic with there miricale vaccnine. Next time a pandemic comes everyone will look to them to save the day.

3. To find out how much control and influence they have in the world. Like all corporations, the pharmaceutical giants are hell bent on maximizing profits, obtaining 100% marketshare, and increasing their power and control. They want to find out how many people want the vaccine, no questions asked? How many people and nations rely and trust them? What is their true global marketshare? How much money can we really make? They record who takes the vaccine, they know who will follow them when the next pandemic is released.

You have to ask yourself is it really TPTB trying to control population or typical corporation business procedures controled by sick minds?

I read that the WHO put the global death count of h1n1 just under 9000. Now that doesn't seem like a pandemic, but who just sold 65 million vaccines? The BIG PHARMACEUTICAL CORPORATIONS!

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[edit on 5-12-2009 by tooo many pills]



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 08:36 AM
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You may be more correct than anyone will ever
know.
S&F



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 08:54 AM
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I was hit with the Flu vaccine by my doctor against my better judgement after being made homeless and being severely asthmatic. He simply wouldn't take no for an answer and so I relented.

After many a sleepless night thinking I'd just signed my own death warrant (lol) I caught a rather nasty strain of flu that's been doing the rounds in London recently. Whereas those in my immediate circle who caught the flu have all ended up in bed for 3 - 4 days, I was sick for roughly 24 hours - and not anywhere near as bad. I can assure you this is not due to my constitution, as it is piss poor.

I am at a stage in my conspiracy-life ATM where I am questioning EVERYTHING. Especially some of the whackjob ideas on here that I have been subscribing to for so long.

If there truely are TPTB out there scheming to the extent we are led to believe, don't you think they'd be a whole lot smarter than this? Maybe the whole point is that they are being extremely smart and most of the commonly accepted conspiracy theories are cleverly designed 'blinkers', designed by a ruling class that has centuries of knowledge denied to us proles.

The ruling class - the neck that guides the head of the public. Scary stuff.



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