Obama will give up U.S. sovereignty at the 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference in Dec.

Sarah Palin won’t have to worry that she doesn’t know what the Bush doctrine is. No one really knew what it meant. But it had something to do with the unilateral exercise of American power, and the next president’s ability to act unilaterally on anything other than vital national security issues is going to be reduced. As the old saying goes: He who has the gold makes the rules. Well, we no longer have as much gold, and until we get some, we will have to pay more heed to the rules of those who lend us theirs. Our debtor status is placing the United States in a perilous position and many speculate that U.S. sovereignty will be handed away by president Obama at the upcoming climate conference.

If President Obama signs this treaty on behalf of the US and then it is approved by the Senate you will see the U.S. giving up it's sovereignty to this new world body whose main objective will be to make the US pay for a majority of the costs that they will decide on. Keep in mind that China & India and most other so-called less developed economies will really not put any limits on their carbon release. Which will mean higher sums for the U.S. obligation.

Not to mention that prices of everything will rise in the United States adding to an already poor economy that will burden the backs of Americans even more.

From the article:

I read that treaty. And what it says is this, that a world government is going to be created. The word “government” actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity. The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to third world countries, in satisfication of what is called, coyly, “climate debt” – because we’ve been burning CO2 and they haven’t. We’ve been screwing up the climate and they haven’t. And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement.

How many of you think that the word “election” or “democracy” or “vote” or “ballot” occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty? Quite right, it doesn’t appear once. So, at last, the communists who piled out of the Berlin Wall and into the environmental movement, who took over Greenpeace so that my friends who funded it left within a year, because [the communists] captured it – Now the apotheosis as at hand. They are about to impose a communist world government on the world. You have a president who has very strong sympathies with that point of view. He’s going to sign it. He’ll sign anything. He’s a Nobel Peace Prize winner of course he’ll sign it.


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And from the "other side" ....

In the course of his current trip to Asia, US President Barack Obama has insured that the upcoming United Nations Climate Conference, due to take place in Copenhagen December 7-18, will be nothing more than a talk shop. - From the World Socialist Web Site wsws.org

You have to be kidding me.

I mean you would seriously have to be kidding me to tell me that you actually believe this. I am a 19 year old whose exam week for college starts next week, having girl issues, and to top it off trying to finish a few computers assignments so I can go out tonight. Even with all of this stress, I am not so foolish enough to believe such bull in order to feel less stressed. That has to be the reason you would believe such nonsense, escapism. It is a natural human response, but seriously...running around like chicken little about how the sky is falling down does nothing to help anyone or yourself. You are merely adding more stress to your already seemingly stressed psyche. I suggest a nap, and a long restful weekend. Have a good evening.

Keep spreading fear and propaganda, it's your god given right!

Originally posted by TheOneElectric
You have to be kidding me.

I mean you would seriously have to be kidding me to tell me that you actually believe this. I am a 19 year old whose exam week for college starts next week, having girl issues, and to top it off trying to finish a few computers assignments so I can go out tonight. Even with all of this stress, I am not so foolish enough to believe such bull in order to feel less stressed. That has to be the reason you would believe such nonsense, escapism. It is a natural human response, but seriously...running around like chicken little about how the sky is falling down does nothing to help anyone or yourself. You are merely adding more stress to your already seemingly stressed psyche. I suggest a nap, and a long restful weekend. Have a good evening.

19, yep I remember that mindset.

This right here:

"The word “government” actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity. The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to third world countries, in satisfication of what is called, coyly, “climate debt”"


That is Socialism. This world government will be a Socialist body.

Where are the CIA snipers when I need them who swore to protect America and her Constitution?

Do I advocate killing people with covert operations to stop this thing? Hell Yes! Every true Red, White and Blue American should!

Delta Force, The Rangers and The A Team isn't going to be there for US. Somebody has Got to stop this.

For years people have tried to stop this kind of thing by diplomatic means. That time is over. It is time for Force and Guns! Take off the heads of the leaders of this thing and the body will die.

Originally posted by December_Rain
Keep spreading fear and propaganda, it's your god given right!

If you noticed I also added the "on the other side" post where Obama stated that the visit was for talks only. Just for you types who can't see past your own rhetoric

Do people still not realize that a One-World Government has been the goal all along?

Just look at this timeline,for instance....

www.threeworldwars.com...

Originally posted by mikelee

Originally posted by December_Rain
Keep spreading fear and propaganda, it's your god given right!

If you noticed I also added the "on the other side" post where Obama stated that the visit was for talks only. Just for you types who can't see past your own rhetoric

yeah.. and look who you quoted there: World Socialist Web.

Of course they are going to spin it like it's nothing to hide what is really going on.

This hasn't been the first thread I have seen with news articles talking about how bad this climate summit can be for America.

[edit on 3-12-2009 by JohnPhoenix]

And here's another one.

www.crossroad.to...

It starts out..."The roots of the United Nations-the most visible part of the new global management system-might be compared to the many deep and spreading roots of a tenacious vine. Some of the roots are short and shallow. Others are long and deep,firmly embedded in powerful social,political and financial institutions in Europe and North America,which,for various reasons,shared Lord Tennyson's vision of a "federation of the world.

.........The tangled roots of this vine spread beneath the surface of public life until 1945,when delegates from 50 countries met in San Francisco to sign the U.N. Charter. Communist spy,Alger Hiss,co-authored that founding charter and served as the first U.N. Secretary General. This initial glimpse of the sprouting vine should have raised a big red flag. But our war-torn world was already blinded by the well-publicized vision of a peacable planet. Who dared oppose such a noble purpose?

.........Actually,many Americans did see the sign posts along the way,but their warnings were drowned out by the mainstream media's resounding praise. Small wonder! The 25 main U.S. newspapers had been bought by the banking goliath,J.P. Morgan,one of the stronger stems in the vine's tangled root system."

So,you can see,it's just the same today. Mainstream Media,lulling everyone into such a state of complacency that they don't see what's being done behind the scenes. Nor do they care. They just assume this is the way it is and this is how it shall remain!

It's not just the amount of taxes that people need to be thinking about. Look at the police state in the UK. We're headed there.

There are enough patriots left that believe in what America stood for,and will fight to save it,but America will lose. That's been the plan all along.

Soon,the IMF and the WTO can come along and start raping this great land for all the resources we weren't allowed to use (Thanks to the Useful Environmental Idiots-See Agenda 21). The U.N. has all the good stuff set aside.

Still,all these people that are still around must be a real nuisance! Don't worry,they have that taken care of too! Do you believe that the concentration camps and guillotines all over America are for nothing?
Do you not think the U.N. will utilize their armies?(See Western Union Assembly Recommendation #666!)

And about that Peace Prize Obama was awarded...Did you know that Karl Marx's definition of "Peace" is actually "Abolition of opposition to Socialism"? (Considering the New World is based on Communism,I think it's easy to understand why he got that award!)

The NWO is going to be Communist all the way! Don't doubt it!

You are correct.
This would be true.
But Senate has to vote on it.

They are the only one's that can OK it.

There is quiet a few that are really pissed on both sides of the isle right now that he thinks he can just do that without them.

He can sign it, but it will mean nothing unless Senate signs off on it.

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Yep, I'm 19 so I can not know anything.

Seriously, IN ALL SERIOUSNESS: My generation is the one that will deliver this world from its illusions. We may be heavy sleepers, but when the majority of us become awake the powers will fall and freedom shall reign.

But I can not condone such a silly thread spreading needless fear.

reply to post by TheOneElectric


I sure hope all your education hasn't come from the public school system then!

But SERIOUSLY,what "powers will fall" and whose "freedom shall reign"?

Care to educate the rest of us with all your brilliance? What were you referring to specifically?

Or are your claims of intelligence as vague as your claim that this thread is "spreading needless fear"?

Originally posted by JohnPhoenix

Originally posted by mikelee

Originally posted by December_Rain
Keep spreading fear and propaganda, it's your god given right!

If you noticed I also added the "on the other side" post where Obama stated that the visit was for talks only. Just for you types who can't see past your own rhetoric

yeah.. and look who you quoted there: World Socialist Web.

Of course they are going to spin it like it's nothing to hide what is really going on.

This hasn't been the first thread I have seen with news articles talking about how bad this climate summit can be for America.

[edit on 3-12-2009 by JohnPhoenix]

Well excuse me if CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC and the lot aren't carrying the topic. perhaps YOU can go enlighten them with all of your supreme intelligence.

Or...

Not.

reply to post by December_Rain
Keep spreading fear and propaganda, it's your god given right!
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Fear and propaganda???? Keep thinking that it's only that, and here's another newsflash for ya, at midnight this past monday night, the UK signed over her freedom and sovereignty via the Lisbon Treaty! The Climate Treaty at copenhagen is next, but as of right now, the UK has NO more sovereign rights as a nation! So you think it won't or can't happen in america?? Better think again! Here's the story on the UK.

blogs.telegraph.co.uk...
At midnight last night, the United Kingdom ceased to be a sovereign state

Britain is no longer a sovereign nation. At midnight last night, we ceased to be an independent state, bound by international treaties to other independent states, and became instead a subordinate unit within a European state.

reply to post by j2000
He can sign it, but it will mean nothing unless Senate signs off on it.

Right, obama can sign all the papers he wants and it'll take the Senate to approve it, but who is in control of the Senate? Dems.
The way I see it, is if health care passes, then were done, game over. If we can't stop that then there is not gonna be any fight (by fight I mean our elected Reps.) to stop cap & tax. So, can I see obama the destroyer signing our sovereignty away? Scarry as it sounds, yes and this just my be the thing that tips this country over.