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Personally, and this is just pure opinion but I think that the US troops would refuse to fight American citizens after a short period of time.
You really can't use the excuse of "the War on Terror" when it comes to the American Populace.
Originally posted by citizenbob
I took a poly sci course a long long time ago and we learned from history that certain benchmarks must exist in any society before a civil war or revolt wil occur.
I don't remember all of them but it was things like. Unemployment must be at a certain level
A certain level of people must live in poverty
A certain number in prison. Things like that and historically when you reach these numbers then your society in ripe for revolt. Safe to say we are not even close. So relax and go watch some tv
Originally posted by DaMod
Personally, and this is just pure opinion but I think that the US troops would refuse to fight American citizens after a short period of time. Fighting a foreign adversary is one thing, but killing your brethren will get old very quickly especially in the United States. I don't think our brothers will take kindly to enslaving their friends, family, and comrades. You really can't use the excuse of "the War on Terror" when it comes to the American Populace.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
I call BS on this one because it`s written by Sorcha Faal. I wouldn`t trust good old Sorcha to tell us the sky is blue.
Originally posted by OnTheFelt
Uhmm I see nothing about Sorcha Faal, the source cited is the American Resistance Radio which is not a bad site.
Not to mention the recent estimate that as many as 75% of Americans of an age to join the military are not fit enough to actually enlist.
U.S. Northern Command’s primary mission is Homeland Defense, and the command stands ready to respond to any homeland defense or civil support mission requirement. “The U.S. military absolutely has the capacity to respond to potential threats within our nation today. It will get better in this coming year and continue to improve beyond that,” said Gen. Gene Renuart, USNORTHCOM commander. Established in 2002 as a result of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, USNORTHCOM has dramatically expanded DoD’s focus on all aspects of Homeland Defense, including planning and exercising, as well as organizing new headquarters and units that are specifically tailored for domestic response. USNORTHCOM has prepared detailed plans for responding to situations that range from pandemic influenza to Chemical, Biological, Radiological and Nuclear events, and the command has redefined its readiness capabilities since Hurricane Katrina. When it comes to providing forces in response to incidents, the command has nearly 50 National Guard officers fully integrated within its operations, in addition to National Guard Civil Support Teams located within every U.S. state and territory, and 17 regional consequence response units. USNORTHCOM also utilizes an active-duty military response unit of nearly 450 Marines who are the “gold standard” for responding to weapons of mass destruction attacks. In addition, there are pre-identified active-duty and Reserve components (4,000 members each) on a short string to provide additional muscle to initial response teams. USNORTHCOM’s primary mission remains defending the homeland, and Americans can be assured the U.S. military is ready and capable of responding to attacks within the United States.
As we have witnessed on more than one occasion in recent American history, the nature of a national security state is precisely to usurp civilian power and transfer it to opaque, unaccountable militarist bureaucracies such as the Pentagon. The Hill reported August 10 that "a bipartisan pair of governors is opposing a new Defense Department proposal to handle natural and terrorism-related disasters, contending that a murky chain of command could lead to more problems than solutions." Vermont Governor Jim Douglas (R), the chairman of the National Governors Association and Vice Chairman, West Virginia Governor Joe Manchin (D) wrote a letter opposing the Pentagon power-grab. Under current law, governors and not the Department of Defense, exercise control over National Guard units in their own states as well as DoD personnel or any other Guard units from other states deployed under their jurisdiction. Their objections arose over a Pentagon proposal for a "legislative fix" that would give the Secretary of Defense authority "to assist in response to domestic disasters and, consequently, control over units stationed in an affected state," The Hill revealed.
"We are concerned that the legislative proposal you discuss in your letter would invite confusion on critical command and control issues, complicate interagency planning, establish stove-piped response efforts, and interfere with governors' constitutional responsibilities to ensure the safety and security of their citizens," Douglas and Manchin wrote to Paul Stockton, assistant secretary of Defense for Homeland Defense and America's Security Affairs. (Reid Wilson, "Governors Oppose DoD Emergency Powers," The Hill, August 10, 2009)
According to CNN, the Pentagon is "to establish regional teams of military personnel to assist civilian authorities in the event of a significant outbreak of the H1N1 virus this fall, according to Defense Department officials." "The proposal is awaiting final approval from Defense Secretary Robert Gates. The officials would not be identified because the proposal from U.S. Northern Command's Gen. Victor Renuart has not been approved by the secretary. The plan calls for military task forces to work in conjunction with the Federal Emergency Management Agency. There is no final decision on how the military effort would be manned, but one source said it would likely include personnel from all branches of the military. It has yet to be determined how many troops would be needed and whether they would come from the active duty or the National Guard and Reserve forces. Civilian authorities would lead any relief efforts in the event of a major outbreak, the official said. The military, as they would for a natural disaster or other significant emergency situation, could provide support and fulfill any tasks that civilian authorities could not, such as air transport or testing of large numbers of viral samples from infected patients. As a first step, Gates is being asked to sign a so-called "execution order" that would authorize the military to begin to conduct the detailed planning to execute the proposed plan. Orders to deploy actual forces would be reviewed later, depending on how much of a health threat the flu poses this fall, the officials said." (CNN, Military planning for possible H1N1 outbreak, July 2009, emphasis added)
Much of the groundwork for the intervention of the military has already been established. There are indications that these "regional teams" have already been established under USNORTHCOM, which has been involved in preparedness training and planning in the case of a flu pandemic (See U.S. Northern Command - Avian Flu. USNORTHCOM website). Within the broader framework of "Disaster Relief", Northern Command has, in the course of the last two years, defined a mandate in the eventuality of a public health emergency or a flu pandemic. The emphasis is on the militarization of public health whereby NORTHCOM would oversee the activities of civilian institutions involved in health related services. According Brig. Gen. Robert Felderman, deputy director
Originally posted by OnTheFelt
I hate to speculate, but humor me for a second. We have a purported Swine Flu/H1N1 epidemic occurring globally which in my view doesn't seem to be such an epidemic, just overblown hype.
Next, we have all these ridiculous government reactions, ie..pimping vaccinations, rearranging military policy so that Posse Comitatus is basically now non-existent, and that our military will be our first responders in regards to this supposed horrific Flu epidemic that is coming our way.
Now maybe, and I mean just maybe it's all a ruse to prepare for what's really in store which is an anticipated reaction to the American people once there is a complete economic collapse.
But hey, just food for thought
[edit on 3-12-2009 by OnTheFelt]