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Pueblo deputies shock 'errant' 10-year-old with Taser

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posted on Dec, 3 2009 @ 10:10 AM
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Pueblo deputies shock 'errant' 10-year-old with Taser


www.denverpost.com

PUEBLO, Colo.—Authorities say an "out of control" 10-year-old child was shocked with a Taser and arrested by sheriff's deputies in Pueblo West.

Capt. Jeff Teschner says that the deputies involved were justified in their use of force.
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posted on Dec, 3 2009 @ 10:10 AM
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Well here is yet another case of officers using the Taser on a young child. I don't care if the youth was threatning them with a pipe it wouldn't have taken much for one or two (adult) coppers to take him down and restrain him. What's really sad about this is that it's no longer "shocking" because it happens so frequently. When are people going to start taking a serious look at cases like this ans say enough is enough!

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posted on Dec, 3 2009 @ 10:20 AM
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Even with a lead pipe, I could take a 10 yr old down. Any mom of a child that age could, but of course you risk having CPS called on you, if you dared physically restrained your child. Don't dare tell my boys that though, my boys are still under the impression that mama can and will take them down if they ever behave like that.



posted on Dec, 3 2009 @ 10:22 AM
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Exactly my point, what ever happened to good old skin on skin? These coppers are quick to deploy the taser did they forget physical management?



posted on Dec, 3 2009 @ 02:04 PM
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Geez... The taser victims are getting younger and younger. At this rate, it will going to be any day now that we hear the news story about the tasered baby:

"Breaking news: The baby was crying so her mom called the cops since it was out of control. The cops arrived and the baby was fighting and crying, so they deployed a taser and arrested the baby and charged it with disobeying a public officer."



posted on Dec, 3 2009 @ 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by MegaCurious
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Geez... The taser victims are getting younger and younger. At this rate, it will going to be any day now that we hear the news story about the tasered baby:

"Breaking news: The baby was crying so her mom called the cops since it was out of control. The cops arrived and the baby was fighting and crying, so they deployed a taser and arrested the baby and charged it with disobeying a public officer."



This really made me laugh. Then it made me think.
Then I started wondering how the officers would feel if they got
their testicles tasered ? (Out of control ? Crying ?)



posted on Dec, 3 2009 @ 05:12 PM
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Sweet! So this means that parents can go buy tazers and use them on their children if they start throwing a tantrum now, right? I mean, if a stranger can electrocute your kid, shouldn't you be able to do it too?

(*Please note the sarcasm)

This is one of the saddest things happening in this country right now. How did we EVER get to a point in our society where it's okay to electrocute children and use other kinds of weapons on them just because they were being "unruly" and acting like, uh, 10 year old kids?!

It breaks my heart



posted on Dec, 3 2009 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by MegaCurious
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Geez... The taser victims are getting younger and younger. At this rate, it will going to be any day now that we hear the news story about the tasered baby:

"Breaking news: The baby was crying so her mom called the cops since it was out of control. The cops arrived and the baby was fighting and crying, so they deployed a taser and arrested the baby and charged it with disobeying a public officer."


"And in other news, the first tazed fetus was reported today after kicking too hard in the womb"



posted on Dec, 3 2009 @ 07:16 PM
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Sad sad sad, this is becoming so common place that it is isn't even surprising to us anymore, thanks taser for helping to desensitize the public.



posted on Dec, 3 2009 @ 07:47 PM
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Having lived in Colorado, I am not surprised, and this is only the begining.
In the great state of Colorado, as with a majority of the United States of America, you can be arrested for spanking a child under your care, on the grounds of it being child abuse. Yes the adult there could have over powered the child, but at what cost? Would you be willing to go to jail for a foster child, knowing that the child could call 911 and lie about you? And yes children do lie. I think we need to reevaluate the means of parenting and go back to the old ways, maybe bring back a parents right to spank a child as punishment, that may bring about the following:
1) Better behaved children.
2) Less gang activities.
3) People being responsible for their actions.


MBF

posted on Dec, 3 2009 @ 07:56 PM
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If the cops can't handle a 10 year old, they need to get into another line of business.



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 03:56 AM
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Whatever happened to a police officer trying to diffuse a situation ?


Deputies Mark Myers and Randy Mondragon were sent to foster parent Daniel Biby's home to help with an "out of control juvenile" who was reportedly destroying property. Mondragon said the boy had threatened Biby with a pipe and a stick, and had thrown a landscape timber at Biby.


The first thought that would have crossed my mind is that the child must have been afraid of something to have that violent of an outburst. Most 10 year old children don't pick up sticks and pipes against adults, they know that an adult (especially an adult male) can overpower and disarm them. IMO if a child takes a drastic measure like that it's as a last resort. Maybe the police should've been more concerned with finding out why this boy was taking up weapons against his foster father. Maybe the foster father had been physically, and/or sexually abusing the boy and what he did was an attempt to protect himself, or he was acting on anger over something that had been done to him.


They also contradict themselves, first they say.....


Sheriff's deputies in Pueblo, Colorado, Tasered a 10-year-old boy after arriving at the child's home Monday evening, after the boy had threatened them with a stick and a length of pipe. As of Thursday evening, the boy remained in a youth jail, according to KCNC channel 4 in Denver.


And then they say this...


Mondragon said that when deputies arrived, the boy ran away from them holding a 2-foot-long pipe.



Now how could the boy have possibly threatened them if he ran away as soon as they arrived ??? I usually don't view someone that is running away from me as someone that is threatening me. And how did he threaten them with a stick and a pipe if he only had a pipe when he ran away ?

Now let's just say that the kid had no reason in the world to threaten his foster father with weapons and he's just some out of control brat, well then that would seem to be the fault of the government for sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong and attempting to stop parents from disciplining their children. If a child is being abused, fine step in and take care of it, but if a child gets a good whack across the butt when they need it, or they get yelled at then stay out of it and let the parent be a parent.


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posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 04:20 AM
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Let me throw a wrench into this stupidity love fest. So. Assuming these officers did what is talked about and used force (human ) to remove the pipe from this kids hands, here is the headline: Officers physically assault 10 year old boy. BS. Enough with the PC crap. You can't have it both ways. I get it that most of the members on this board and even the media dislike authority. I get it, I really do. So maybe the officers should have let the little bastard go at em with the pipe? If it was so easy why didn't the parents do it? hmmm? Becasue it required someone outside of thier experience to handle it. Cops. Cops are not parents or babysitters when on a call. When you call them it is because you CANNOT handle a situation through mediation or even your own physical prowess. While Tasers ARE being looked at as a questionable device, the officers that employ them are trained and have had them used on them, and have to document EVERY single time they are employed and are sent to a civilian review board to scrutinize thier use. So please understand and learn before people start just ASSuming that cops are running around tasing people AND KIDS for nothing. The child was not threatening to the officers but the caller. Everyone here ASSumes that when officers tase someone it is becasue they are afraid that the person will hurt them. Guess what? This wasn't the case, the little bastard was threatening someone with a pipe. Maybe they should have backed out and called SWAT and a hostage negotiator. Yeah he was running away alright WITH THE PIPE!!Come back to reality and stop living in your dream worlds where even bad kids are like those in the 50's. They aren't thanks to social garbage that, I might add, this kind of thought promotes. What is the youngest child that has shot and killed his parents? Or maybe tell me what was the age of the youngest armed robber, rapist or gang member? OOPS caught you there didn't I?The device is meant to be deployed in the event a subject is not cooperating, yes even 10year olds. Rather you want them to dogpile the kid? Enough.

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posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 04:45 AM
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Another kid who will probably grow up to hate authority (especially police) because he probably has nightmares about the monsters who electrocuted him.

These cops must of read the book "how to create a criminal to keep yourself moving up the ladder".

Maybe we'll all get lucky and he'll grow up and execute some cops in a doughnut shop because of the cops who terrorized him before his brain was fully developed.


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posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 04:59 AM
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ok, so the kid in the foster home was acting out, he's troubled to begin with in that situation (the foster home that is). So, if the LEOs can taser a young child for elements unknown as to why he was acting out, whats to stop them from shooting another child who is acting out? or better yet calling in military from Ft. Carson to deal with the child. The chieftin is standing by his officers and states they were just in their actions by subduing the CHILD with an electrical charge.

there have been way too many incidents where "law enforcement" "officers" are being looked down upon by using these WEAPONS... it wouldn't have taken that much pepper spray to convince the child to comply, even that would have gotten a rise out of people, CAUSE HE'S 10!!!! and that shock could be aimed at you next....

If that were my son, the headlines would have read: TEN YEAR OLD TASERED, OFFICER MURDERED.



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 06:00 AM
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Well what the hell would you guys do if that maniac is coming at you with his freakishly miniature physique....... probably wielding some type of plastic hammer he stole from a construction playset while in a crystal meth induced rampage ???


.... what would you do indeed !!!!



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 06:45 AM
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"Officers" are called to disputes that parents CAN'T handle. Foster or not, he went and grabbed a pipe and threatened to beat the living crap out of his "foster" parents. PLEASE DO NOT HOLD HIM RESPONSIBLE! HIMS IS TROUBLED! Guess what? EVERY LAST ONE OF US who posts on this board is troubled in some sense. Responsibility for ones actions begins when you can act in an adult manner. Anger enough to beat someone with a lead pipe is adult. Bottom line.



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 07:28 AM
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Originally posted by djvexd
"Officers" are called to disputes that parents CAN'T handle. Foster or not, he went and grabbed a pipe and threatened to beat the living crap out of his "foster" parents. PLEASE DO NOT HOLD HIM RESPONSIBLE! HIMS IS TROUBLED! Guess what? EVERY LAST ONE OF US who posts on this board is troubled in some sense. Responsibility for ones actions begins when you can act in an adult manner. Anger enough to beat someone with a lead pipe is adult. Bottom line.

For goodness sakes, he is still a child, troubled or not! Its not his fault his childhood has been stolen from him by the fosterincarceration people.



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 07:35 AM
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Can anyone show me the age limits on this use of force matrix?

You cannot because their isn’t one. If they start making distinctions due to age then they can get in trouble for discrimination.

I got a better question, why is it that parents cannot handle their children without police intervention now a days? If the parents cannot handle the child, then they have no right to call fowl when the officers follow the letter of the law on how to take that child into custody



posted on Dec, 4 2009 @ 07:36 AM
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So we should let him do wtf ever? No. I am screwed up by a messed up marriage as are most people here. enough is enough. start taking responsibility for your actions. YES EVEN 10 YEAR OLDS!!!! If the parents can't discipline the boy the the state should. Why is this such a new idea to people. kids get out of line, whether through talking or putting a hand to thier backside, correct them . Life is not an F'NG Montessorre school.



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