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reply posted on 17-10-2004 @ 10:32 AM by vinrock
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Originally posted by William
One question to keep in your mind when you consider this outrageous theory; which billion-person army is going to capture and control a significant
percentage of the U.S. population?
[Edited on 18-3-2003 by William]
I wonder how any gun owners read that line and laughed.
You start with the disarming of your citizens.
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reply posted on 11-9-2006 @ 12:10 AM by MystikMushroom
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Originally posted by Gazrok
but it won't work in America...
It may have worked for the Germans with the Jews...but you just wait and see what happens when a soldier tells me to "dig a hole"...I'll bury that
shovel right in his head! Sure, I may go down, but I'll take 'em with me! It's that mindset that prevents this sort of thing. Americans are just
made of different stock...I firmly believe that, and it was evident on 9/11 when those guys took that plane down instead of letting it get to it's
target....
Yep..they kept it from hitting it's supposed "target" but an entire plane full of people were not able to stop 3-4 people with "box cutters" far
enough to save their own lives.
I fully belive that entire plane full of people COULD have (if the story of flight 93 is true) overcome the "armed" hijackers and re-gained control
over the cockpit. In such an event, ground controllers could have instructed the passengers on how to operate and land the plane.
Remember, the plane pretty much flies itself w/the onboard avionics...
These people might by some be considered "heros"...
But they ALL still DIED.
Hm
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reply posted on 4-7-2008 @ 09:46 AM by Anonymous ATS
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reply posted on 18-7-2008 @ 02:23 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Yes, they did.
Italians were shipped to a prison/work camp in northern ontario, the transfer point was the CNE in downtown Toronto. A great-uncle of mine, whom
stayed in canada from the original 1800's migration when everyone else went back to Italy & came over in the 1950's, was interned at one of these
camps. The film "Barbed Wire & Mandolins" talks about the hardships put on loyal Ital-Canadians by the tyrannical British-dominated government.
The same was also done with German-Canadians and other enemy domestics. The two white nations of north america have done terrible things to people in
the name of national security, what makes any infidel (unbeliever, not relating to Islam in any sense) here think that the same cannot happen in our
current day?
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reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 09:12 PM by Buster Brown
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The resivoir can be spotted using Google Maps or Google Earth. You can walk right up to it via the "fire road" or on the groomed and maintained
trails. Its right in the middle of a public park. It's just a freakin resevoir...no bad guys with guns, no no trespassing signs, no video
surveilence, no conspiracy.
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reply posted on 25-9-2008 @ 10:10 PM by emsed1
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I can verify that one of the locations repeatedly listed as a concentration camp does not exist.
Chanute AFB was closed about 15 years ago and the 'base medical facility' which was supposedly upgraded and fenced in as a FEMA death camp is still
closed and dilapidated.
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reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 12:41 AM by Candycab
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Originally posted by MystikMushroom
Originally posted by Gazrok
but it won't work in America...
It may have worked for the Germans with the Jews...but you just wait and see what happens when a soldier tells me to "dig a hole"...I'll bury that
shovel right in his head! Sure, I may go down, but I'll take 'em with me! It's that mindset that prevents this sort of thing. Americans are just
made of different stock...I firmly believe that, and it was evident on 9/11 when those guys took that plane down instead of letting it get to it's
target....
Yep..they kept it from hitting it's supposed "target" but an entire plane full of people were not able to stop 3-4 people with "box cutters" far
enough to save their own lives.
I fully belive that entire plane full of people COULD have (if the story of flight 93 is true) overcome the "armed" hijackers and re-gained control
over the cockpit. In such an event, ground controllers could have instructed the passengers on how to operate and land the plane.
Remember, the plane pretty much flies itself w/the onboard avionics...
These people might by some be considered "heros"...
But they ALL still DIED.
Hm
I agree
I dont buy into any of the hero nonsense, more like wrong place, wrong time. Can you say propaganda to make everyone feel good about the situation ?
Personally I think alot of people, myself included would fight to the end if someone was playing with my life, dont know about you but I would be a
little pissed off !
Seems like everytime I see something on TLC or Discovery that has to do with flying commercial jetliners etc they all say that the majority of modern
jets have the abillity to land themselves with nothing more than a pilot watching over it to make sure it all goes ok.
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reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 01:26 PM by emsed1
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Yes... a PILOT watching over them. I am a pilot with years of both fixed and rotary wing experience.
I have also spent probably hundreds of hours with airliner flight simulators and I can tell you there is absolutely no way anyone that is not a
commercial ATP pilot with type-certification on a heavy multi-engine jet that could land it.
Never mind the fact that there is panic, dead bodies, blood, fighting, etc.
Who exactly is going to tell you what to do? Air Traffic controllers don't know how to fly 757s.
How will you talk to somebody? Where is the radio? What channel do you use? Which button do you push to turn on autopilot? How do you push any
button when the plane is in a spin/dive with positive and negative G forces flinging you around?
I think you have been watching too many AIRPLANE movies.
It's true that some modern jetliners have autoland procedures, however they have to be programmed in the Flight Management Computer with the specific
runway assignment/airport/approach pattern.. etc.
Then the Flight Director, Flight Management Computer, Autopilot and nav system all have to be coupled.
All that aside... how do you even know where you are?
Take a look at this picture and tell me (even without dead bodies, blood, terrorists, spinning/diving G forces) and let me know what button you would
push first to land the plane.
Exactly.
You can't.
Never in history has an untrained pilot landed a jetliner by him or herself relying on instructions from air traffic control.
Ever.
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reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 01:31 PM by pluckynoonez
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And only Exidor can save us from 80 billion Mearths?
I get yah, I get yah....
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reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 08:36 PM by Candycab
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Originally posted by emsed1
reply to post by Candycab
Yes... a PILOT watching over them. I am a pilot with years of both fixed and rotary wing experience.
I have also spent probably hundreds of hours with airliner flight simulators and I can tell you there is absolutely no way anyone that is not a
commercial ATP pilot with type-certification on a heavy multi-engine jet that could land it.
Never mind the fact that there is panic, dead bodies, blood, fighting, etc.
Who exactly is going to tell you what to do? Air Traffic controllers don't know how to fly 757s.
How will you talk to somebody? Where is the radio? What channel do you use? Which button do you push to turn on autopilot? How do you push any
button when the plane is in a spin/dive with positive and negative G forces flinging you around?
I think you have been watching too many AIRPLANE movies.
It's true that some modern jetliners have autoland procedures, however they have to be programmed in the Flight Management Computer with the specific
runway assignment/airport/approach pattern.. etc.
Then the Flight Director, Flight Management Computer, Autopilot and nav system all have to be coupled.
All that aside... how do you even know where you are?
Take a look at this picture and tell me (even without dead bodies, blood, terrorists, spinning/diving G forces) and let me know what button you would
push first to land the plane.
Exactly.
You can't.
Never in history has an untrained pilot landed a jetliner by him or herself relying on instructions from air traffic control.
Ever.
Excelent points there, though I wasnt really thinking just anyone could land a plane, just more like they make it sound rather simple to do whenever I
see one of these TV programs.
Just curious but are you a commercial pilot or is it more of a hobby ?
I got to checkout the large simulator at AAMES some years ago and yes the cockpit was definitly intimidating
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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 05:31 PM by repentfromgov
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well my opinion with all of this concertration camps in cali and every were else i believe it totally i think that the goverment is trying to take
ower freedom away from us. and i dont like it one bit were i live in cleveland ohio i see so much construction companies running fiber obtics on the
side of the road and its scray seeing them doning that stuff becuase i am thinking that something is going to happen real soon. i am not happy with
the goverment and also the prisdent i think that what they are doing is wrong and they dont now what they are doing thanks for reading mike
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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 05:44 PM by skycopilot
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How can you trust a government that rewards your information with "permanent silence"?
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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 05:51 PM by skycopilot
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As I understand it, only the AF fire training school is still at "Shoot-em-or-Chanute-em" Rantoul, Illinois.
The reason is that so much diesel had been dumped on the ground to "burn" the mock-up of a plane, the AF would have spent too much money to "clean
up" the site and move the school to a new location just to begin re-polluting the new site again with the same chemicals.
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