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ALBANY, N.Y.) — New York lawmakers rejected a bill Wednesday that would have made their state the sixth to allow gay marriage, disheartening advocates already stung by a similar decision by Maine voters just last month.
The New York measure failed by a wider-than-expected margin, falling 12 votes short in a 24-38 decision by the state Senate. The Assembly had earlier approved the bill, and Gov. David Paterson, perhaps the bill's strongest advocate, had pledged to sign it.
Originally posted by Seiko
The concept of one part of society not being the same as another is a disease of the mind that must not be tolerated by rational people.
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
I for one, as a gay man, living in Canada dont' have this problem, however Civil Unions which provide all the same rights is not something that I would argue against.Thoughts?~Keeper
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Government has no business recognizing marriage one way or the other. The sooner people get this through their skulls the sooner we can inch back toward sanity.
The whole "who can marry what" issue is 100% manufactured. It simply doesnt exist. Yet here we are begging and pleading for government to bless this union. Last time I checked government wasnt a parent of my significant other and not involved in any way with whatever faith under which I would be wed. I'm sure as hell not going to ask it for a blessing.
Originally posted by Seiko
Separate but equal was found to be unconstitutional.
Until all are equal by law I find we are failing. The concept of one part of society not being the same as another is a disease of the mind that must not be tolerated by rational people.
[edit on 2-12-2009 by Seiko]
Originally posted by metamagic
Originally posted by Seiko
Separate but equal was found to be unconstitutional.
Until all are equal by law I find we are failing. The concept of one part of society not being the same as another is a disease of the mind that must not be tolerated by rational people.
[edit on 2-12-2009 by Seiko]
A very succinct and accurate analysis Seiko. I am saddened again by the laws that seek to keep up labelled and divided.
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
What's offensive is that group that figures supporting a death sentence for Nigerian gays is oky-dokey...them I worry about!
Originally posted by metamagic
...just to be a weeeeee bit picky, it's not Nigeria that is in the news for the "kill the gays" law, it's Uganda. But still being sponsored by those Apostles of love and forgiveness, the K-street "family".
Nigeria's anti-gay witch-hunt The arrest on August 5 of 18 men at a private party in the northern state of Bauchi is the latest incident in a wave of ongoing homophobic persecution in Nigeria - much of which is incited by Christian bishops and Muslim imams...
The men were initially accused of vagrancy, cross-dressing and practicing sodomy as a profession, contrary to section 372, subsection 2(e), of the Bauchi state sharia penal code. A sodomy charge carries a sentence of death. www.guardian.co.uk...
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by metamagic
...just to be a weeeeee bit picky, it's not Nigeria that is in the news for the "kill the gays" law, it's Uganda. But still being sponsored by those Apostles of love and forgiveness, the K-street "family".
Bad news, it's Nigeria as well.
Nigeria's anti-gay witch-hunt The arrest on August 5 of 18 men at a private party in the northern state of Bauchi is the latest incident in a wave of ongoing homophobic persecution in Nigeria - much of which is incited by Christian bishops and Muslim imams...
The men were initially accused of vagrancy, cross-dressing and practicing sodomy as a profession, contrary to section 372, subsection 2(e), of the Bauchi state sharia penal code. A sodomy charge carries a sentence of death. www.guardian.co.uk...
You'd think, though, that the US has a lot more to worry about than who is sticking their naughty bits where.
As Trudeau said, "The government has no business in the bedrooms of the nation."
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
I loved Trudeau. Remember that guy who pied him? My brother in law! lol
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
That recognition is required for same-sex benefits that tie into government programmes, so yes...it does exist. Also, the government is the arbiter of constitutional issues that make gays second class. Sometimes 'we, the people' are arses...need I point out the need for a civil rights movement?