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Originally posted by thecrow001
i dont think the presenters knew but i think someone did it too kkep the tensions up and to create opinions for the people watching.
I am not going to speak about the animals who do this, but i reckon this was done on purpose by the uk government with there people in these groups.
But i think that this was planned by intelligence agencies in england, and they are bound to have people in these groups like combat 18 that was mentioned alot back then.
I would not be surprised if mi6 was involved.
I just am wondering what reason would uk, want there fans to do this,a nd so publicily.
Any suggestions on what reasons the mi6 or what ever in uk, would have planned this.
But seeing as today we know what governments do, i reckon that this was definitely a planned operation by mi6 or mi5 or something.
Just shows you they may have hands in more things, that may seem like normal social english behavior
Here intellectual studies can do very little except maybe point out the ideological case for violence in certain situations. One just has to overcome one's fear by training and practice. And that means participating in activities that might end up in forceful confrontations. Here the full support of the veterans and the close comradeship of the fellow combatants are absolutely essential. We have all been "rookies" once and it is up to the hardened comrades to see that it does not end up there. I think very few individuals get used to the violent side of politics but you should try to learn to live with it. Because in our situation it is actually a sad fact of life. Neither am I saying that all our cadres should be sent out on the battlefield of the street demos and marches. We must realize that some people just don't function very well in such situations, and of course there is the security element. There are those of us who can accomplish far more under the cover of anonymity.
The highly secretive organisation has attracted notoriety in the past - particularly after it claimed to have organised fighting at the England-Ireland football match at Lansdowne Road in 1995.
The Ireland V England friendly game was called off in 1995 due to riots instigated by neo- fascist group Combat 18 (18 so called after Adolf Hitler's initials sequence of the alphabet)
commentators on both the left and right, including journalist Larry O'Hara, have stated that C18 was created by Britain's internal security service MI5 to discredit the BNP while acting as a honey trap , or sting operation , designed to attract the most violent neo-Nazis in Britain into a single organization, where they could be monitored more easily.
However, no evidence has ever been produced to substantiate…C18 itself was set-up by, or manipulated by, either MI5 or Special Branch . Some former supporters and members of C18 regard such suspicions and allegations of State involvement as themselves the product of MI5 disinformation , designed to divide C18 internally, a tactic which would seem to have worked.
I think things like combat 18 are controlled by the intelligence services.
I think your a disinfo source.
I think i am right on, and judging by what the brits and americans do, i can be sure that they have no feelings what so ever, of doing such a thing.
Originally posted by andy1033
...I think your a disinfo source.
So, the lesson to be learned here is that to spout allegations, one has to have evidence.
It seems you have nothing but uninformed, posturing prejudice.
Do you have any evidence for this, or are you only saying that because he disagreed with your opinion?