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Originally posted by OzWeatherman
reply to post by endisnighe
While I agree that man made global warming has not been proven I dont think it should be labelled a hoax as of yet. We simply dont have enough data to give an indication wether its a natural or man made event. Meteorological observational data doesnt go back far enough to prove either one correct, and while it is true that the data was manipulated (my organisation is one of the departments that had emails in this), it still doesnt mean that its a hoax.
Originally posted by HankMcCoy
And why it isn't done by (honest) climate scientists is because it isn't scientific to infer that correlation implies causation.
Originally posted by dodadoom
reply to post by Stormdancer777
Hey Dancer, I trust no one.
I can see the changes happening where I live.
My job depends on it.
I dont need no stinking chart to tell me whas up!
Good point and thanks for the reply!
Originally posted by fleabit
Yes, let's just ASSUME that we just happen to be in a "period" where the weather grows warmer.. you know, those things that happen every 10 or 20 thousands years. Ignoring the fact that this time, and early at that, it coincides with the industrial growth of our world, pouring tons of CO2 into the air.
I mean.. even though there is really no proof either way, let's just make that leap, and say heck.. it's probably just NATURE doin' it's thing! It's just our planet at stake. Our kids won't mind if we gamble their future on the fact that some politician or company might be benefiting from this. It's much more important to stop them, than worry about the health of our world. Such a no brainer!
THE scientific consensus that mankind has caused climate change was rocked yesterday as a leading academic called it a “load of hot air underpinned by fraud”.
Professor Ian Plimer condemned the climate change lobby as “climate comrades” keeping the “gravy train” going.
In a controversial talk just days before the start of a climate summit attended by world leaders in Copenhagen, Prof Plimer said Governments were treating the public like “fools” and using climate change to increase taxes.
He said carbon dioxide has had no impact on temperature and that recent warming was part of the natural cycle of climate stretching over billions of years.
If you have to argue your science by using fraud, your science is not valid.
Prof Plimer - author of Heaven and Earth: Global Warming, The Missing Science - told a London audience: “Climates always change. They always have and they always will. They are driven by a number of factors that are random and cyclical.”
Professor Plimer said climate change was caused by natural events such as volcanic eruptions, the shifting of the Earth’s orbit and cosmic radiation. He said: “Carbon dioxide levels have been up to 1,000 times higher in the past. CO2 cannot be driving global warming now.
“In the past we have had rapid and significant climate change with temperature changes greater than anything we are measuring today. They are driven by processes that have been going on since the beginning of time.”
I'm saddened to see so many people running like lemmings to swallow the story that global warming is a hoax on the basis of reports from shills of the powers that be.
Originally posted by endisnighe
all of the recent activity on the net about the FACT, that man made Global Warming is a instituted HOAX and perpetuated by the governments of the world to institute TAX AND CONTROL. With the destruction of the DATA and the manipulation of the existing numbers, not to mention Global Governance.
[edit on 12/1/2009 by endisnighe]
I pray we don't enter a cooling phase, we still have corn in the fields around here that cannot be harvested.