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I am getting angry, when is the disclosure?!

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posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 05:53 PM
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Okay, let me get this straight, where did we hear about the disclosure in the first place and who said it and who promise it or whatever the hell is it, WHERE IS THE DISCLOSURE?

Is this the distraction to keep us in the ball?




posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 05:58 PM
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You already know the disclosure... Subconsciously the PTB have been doing it to us for the past 50 years at least. You know subliminal ques in everything and anything that is around you in this society whether it be a Bilboard advertisement to that Police car with flashing lights driving past you at great speed.
Think of the Matrix movie and hurry up and be conscious of that red pill that you took before you were born



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by Epsillion70
You already know the disclosure... Subconsciously the PTB have been doing it to us for the past 50 years at least. You know subliminal ques in everything and anything that is around you in this society whether it be a Bilboard advertisement to that Police car with flashing lights driving past you at great speed.
Think of the Matrix movie and hurry up and be conscious of that red pill that you took before you were born
Oh I know about that for 50 years in my hard study but everyone is harping with "disclosure" this year than ever before? why?



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:06 PM
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lol ... you should try to do something else besides wasting your time waiting for a disclosure or something

it may happen or it may never happen .. so u will never know

dont belive in people that want your money and fame ... go find another way to entertain yourself



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:11 PM
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I've heard disclosure is possibly the day before the day after tomorrow, providing the day before yesterday is not a Saturday, I hope this is clear........failing this the disclosure date may be moved to an as yet undetermined date........or not, depending on the weather



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:13 PM
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Why waste energy getting angry over something you have no control of?

This is my second line of text.



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:16 PM
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That what I am angry about, we should move on and I don't care about the disclosure but so many people said it will be soon because Nasa discover something at the moon, Planet 51 movie, and now we have Avater which they called it the "greatest movie ever invented" 9I heard it somewhere, just don't remember)

Now we have more funny UFO story, like the china woman met a venus people talking her and bringing her, and the moscow's strange cloud circle that look like "independance day" style....


My best guess is we are not ready to see disclosure, wanna know why?

Because we are not ready yet, we just are still a dark ages people with dark ages mind....



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:21 PM
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I am positive its tomorrow. if anything happens, ill post another post to let you know.


Just a hint, don't believe everything you see on this site. We do have wack jobs who follow wack jobs, who also follow wack jobs, and in the end there is just someone making a bit of money. dont follow anything you hear, but rather wait it out to see, with the expectation that anything can happen.


Of course your going to agree with any disclosure thing you see, because you will agree with what you want to hear. (EGO)



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by IceDash
WHERE IS THE DISCLOSURE?


It's been said here many times before. "Disclosure" is just a myth. Not because of people keeping secrets, but because of people's expectations. If the U.S. Government came out tomorrow and said they don't know what real UFOs are, would you believe them? No?

Then what you're saying is that you'll only believe disclosure if it's what you want it to be. Aliens from Zeta Reticuli, time travelers, etc. Since when does the "truth" depend on whether or not it's something you want to hear?

Work on opening your mind, not on waiting for somebody to tell you you're right.



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:22 PM
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I am going to say that this will seem odd, very much a riddle structure, but I have my reasons.

We are approaching "disclosure." Don't expect it until both the whore and the beast die. Ah, the joys of metaprogramming. The world wide web. Our feces is spread all over this web, and it sticks us to each other. Perhaps we should seek a mind, and not define ourselves by what we are NOT. We do have rights, but these rights create spiraling consequences. WAKE UP.

Edit: Because I don't want to cause confusion, I will add more. People abandoned religion, but they threw out the baby with the bath water. People threw away logic as well, and standards have dropped. People have been coming at each other from all angles, mutually mind-screwing each other. It is terribly wrong in my view, but it might have been necessary. Please, just realize that you are loved, that you have worth, and don't go chasing after every lying rabbit that someone dangles before you. I have engaged in this counterproductive behavior myself. I think maybe the whole thing was orchestrated to show that, while certainty in a religion might be bull, people still have spiritual alignments. When people reject all of this, they spiral into oblivion. We must have faith in something, whatever that something is. We must have a common thread. That common thread must be honest and holistic, however. BTW, I have had this view that Christ was a sort of "V" as in "V for Vendetta," and we are undergoing the chaos before the calm. Please, just be happy with your friends and family, learn something, move forward. Remain centered. Don't let all of these whirlwinds consume you.

Brother, I know the world seems a mess. We must have faith that it will get better, do our part, but not stress.

[edit on 1-12-2009 by orwellianunenlightenment]

[edit on 1-12-2009 by orwellianunenlightenment]



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:25 PM
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I am getting angry, when is the disclosure?!


Well... angry ain't gonna help. Spitballs don't either. In fact, nothing helps here except patience.

Actually, I kind of understand where you're coming from but it was never the TPTB or even the lesser imperial offices that suggested this.

(Does anyone recall who first suggested that Al O'Bama was gonna come clean on this?)

But I will be happy to second your wish and forward the intent and hope for better



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:29 PM
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Just be patient and calm.



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:43 PM
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Stay cool, the secrets are out for some people.
You heard of alternate energy well this might be alternate disclosure.
For those that consider most of the UFO parts are known then the
lock up is to protect the people that would require a long list of
Presidential pardons.



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:53 PM
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Hi All,

Firstly please bear with me as I am a brand new user / member to ATS, residing in London, UK and I'm not certain as yet hot / where I should be posting messages / information, but I will do my best.

My most recent concern is with regards to the various stories / rumours surrounding the supposed facility below the Archuleta Mesa Apache Indian Reservation land just outside of Dulce, New Mexico. If the rumours are to be believed this facility is a 7 level circular complex where some truly horrific genetic experiments are carried out on both humans and extra-terrestrials by other humans, extra-terrestrials and terrestrial-reptilian beings.

On a basic level I figure that if I look for as many sources of information on the subject that I can, hopefully by digging through them I'll be able to find at least some consensus around certain details and hopefully in doing so I will ultimately be led down the path of truth.

Included in my finds are an episode of the "UFO Hunters - Case No. 66105: Underground Bases - Dulce", as well as John Rhodes' Reptoid Research Centre (website: www.reptoids.com; in reference to the Draco). With regards to the "Subterrene" referenced by John Rhodes that supposedly operates on subterranean routes including access to the Dulce facility, this is actually something that (in the public / unclassified relm) is known as the "Planetran" referenced in the paper produced in February 1978 by Robert M. Salter of the RAND Corporation. This paper is available for free download in .pdf format from the RAND Corporation website (www.rand.org).

My interest in the RAND Corporation however goes deeper than this. The various sources of information I have reviewed seem to suggest that a Mr. Thomas Edwin Castello was employed by the RAND Corporation in 1971 as a Security Technician based in California with an "Ultra-3" clearance level until 1977 when he was transferred to Santa Fe, New Mexico with an upgraded clearance of "Ultra-7", then working as a Photo Security Specialist at the Dulce facility. Sometime in the later 1970's Thomas Castello supposedly escaped from the facility having smuggled out a collection of documents, photographs and some video tape footage from inside the facility. Rumours would have it that a short time later Thomas's wife Cathy and son Eric strangely disappeared from their home. They may or may not currently be captives within the facility. As far as I know (based on all information I have at present) Thomas is currently on the run and may or may not even still be alive.

Below is an email I sent to one Mr. James Dobbins - National Security Research Division at RAND Corporation regarding Thomas Edwin Castello. I have yet to receive a reply:

Dear James,

I came across your name as a contact within the RAND Corporation's National Security Research Division and after some consideration I decided you were as good a place to start as any.

I am seeking information pertaining to the employment record and disappearance or death (whatever the case may be) of the above named Thomas Edwin Castello, who I understand from sources was employed from 1971 by the RAND Corporation as a Security Technician with "Ultra-3" security clearance and based in California until 1977 at which time he was transferred to Santa Fe, New Mexico with an upgraded security clearance of "Ultra-7", and working as a Photo Security Specialist working at the underground facility in Dulce, New Mexico.

In addition I am trying to ascertain the whereabouts and status of his wife Cathy Castello and son Eric Castello who as records have it "mysteriously vanished" from their home shortly after the unfolding of certain events around the end of Thomas's period of working at the Dulce facility.

Perhaps you are able to assist me or at least point me in the right direction to have these questions answered. Unfortunately the FAQ's section of the website was not very helpful on this matter.

With thanks,

Matthew"



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by IceDash
Okay, let me get this straight, where did we hear about the disclosure in the first place and who said it and who promise it or whatever the hell is it, WHERE IS THE DISCLOSURE?

Is this the distraction to keep us in the ball?

Well, the group most people refer to as "The Powers that Be" never promised (nor have ever mentioned) disclosure. Disclosure was promised only by the UFO community, so don't blame "TPTB" for the fact that disclosure has not yet occurred (or if it never occurs).

If disclosure is only a distraction, then the people doing the distracting are the UFO community.



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by IceDash
Okay, let me get this straight, where did we hear about the disclosure in the first place and who said it and who promise it or whatever the hell is it, WHERE IS THE DISCLOSURE?

Is this the distraction to keep us in the ball?


There is no "disclosure" coming.

Anyone that claims such "disclosure" is coming is a "false prophet".

I don't think you realize the extend to which the folks that you want the TV box to "disclose" actually control this planet. It may be difficult to notice unless you know what to look for, but not everyone walking or driving down the street is from where you think they are.



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 07:29 PM
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I think we're getting close to it.
Well, actually, that's not a risky statement : each day is one day less before disclosure !

No, actually, I believe that the confirmation that the bactery was from Mars is the first step. Don't expect to turn on your TV and see Obama with a Grey by his side.
I think it will be more like a processus. And it will take monthes. I'd like to believe it will end before Obama's first term end, but you can never be sure.
Anyway, I think it started with the confirmation that this bacteria is actually and alien. Then in a few weeks / monthes, we'll get something like : "Hey guys, we just checked, there are some bacterias still alive on Mars !". And then nothing for a few monthes, time for that new to be digested. Just some TV shows about the potential life forms that will be found on other planets and stuff. Then we will get a confirmation that some Earth-like planet was found orbiting around some random star, and being at a good distance from it to sustain life. Anyway, you see where I'm going.
This is only my personnal opinion, just don't think of it like a prediction or anything like that. I'm just gessing what's likely to happen.
To sum up, for me, disclosure actually began, but won't be full before a few monthes if we're lucky, years otherwise.



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by Jalis
I think we're getting close to it.
Well, actually, that's not a risky statement : each day is one day less before disclosure !

No, actually, I believe that the confirmation that the bactery was from Mars is the first step. Don't expect to turn on your TV and see Obama with a Grey by his side.
I think it will be more like a processus. And it will take monthes. I'd like to believe it will end before Obama's first term end, but you can never be sure.
Anyway, I think it started with the confirmation that this bacteria is actually and alien. Then in a few weeks / monthes, we'll get something like : "Hey guys, we just checked, there are some bacterias still alive on Mars !". And then nothing for a few monthes, time for that new to be digested. Just some TV shows about the potential life forms that will be found on other planets and stuff. Then we will get a confirmation that some Earth-like planet was found orbiting around some random star, and being at a good distance from it to sustain life. Anyway, you see where I'm going.
This is only my personnal opinion, just don't think of it like a prediction or anything like that. I'm just gessing what's likely to happen.
To sum up, for me, disclosure actually began, but won't be full before a few monthes if we're lucky, years otherwise.
well the funny thing is the vatican said "it okay to believe in alien"

these are the same guys who prosecute gallio...



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 08:03 PM
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well, why not promise yourself to ignore all things ufo and psychic after 12/21/12? Its just around the corner. It'll be here before you know it.

that's what I did

after 2012, bye bye ATS for me


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posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by IceDash
Okay, let me get this straight, where did we hear about the disclosure in the first place and who said it and who promise it or whatever the hell is it, WHERE IS THE DISCLOSURE?

Is this the distraction to keep us in the ball?


The question isn't "Where did WE hear about the disclosure" the question is..

Where did YOU hear about Disclosure?

If you heard about it on ATS, chances are it is something made up, just like.. oh.. I'd say 97% of the stuff on this site.. including this statistic.



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