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Al Gore confronted on ClimateGate in Chicago

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posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 05:19 PM
Why are they screaming about a world government? And why are people so afraid of a world government? In order to progress as a species we all have to unite under a world government, so what is the big deal?

posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 05:37 PM

Originally posted by SunnyDee
I actually enjoyed that little film. You would have to be aware of the global agenda to understand it, but it was kind of dramatic. The comments below the video are hilarious! Lots of sheep and disinfo agents on that one! Anyway, the thing about all of these conspiracies, is not enough people are willing to change and rethink life around them, so I believe climategate will just disappear, swept under a Trilateral, Club of Rome, Bilderberg, E.U., U.N. rug.

I try regularly to open the eyes of friends and nothing, nothing has opened them. Does anyone think we C.T.r's were just programmed a bit differently from birth?

I enjoyed it as well. When you have no real voice in the MSM or politics, nothing wrong with some good old so called "American" yelling... reminded me of another guy in history who screamed, he was a "hero"... but I often wonder how many people blew off Paul Revere as a conspiracy nut?

"lol there goes crazy Revere and that 'red coat' stuff again... he's probably drunk and I hear he had an affair with that saloon girl.. "

posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:03 PM
They were quite calm at first, simply wanting to ask a few questions, get a few comments, they only made a scene when al gore refused and tried to have them escorted out.

His refusal to answer any questions is in itself suspicious.

What a pathetic man.

posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:04 PM

Originally posted by Phlegmi
Why are they screaming about a world government? And why are people so afraid of a world government? In order to progress as a species we all have to unite under a world government, so what is the big deal?

In order to progress as a species?? who came up with that rule? what if progress is destroying the power structure, not submitting to it?

Our options are becoming few:
If we even think of voting them to the curb, they'll 9/11 or disease us into submission. Our so called system of blind justice favors the elite and allows them to literally get away with mass murder (wars). Yelling at them makes hilarious video and hopefully irritates them to an early death, but there are not enough people informed & angry enough... just yet.

The MSM have become establishment cheerleaders, our leaders see the will of the people as an irritant.. all avenues are closed except extreme frustration that leads to violence.

There will be no real honest change until the masses decide "enough is enough", rise up, and storm the gates like barbarians. Which I think is on the horizon.

Calling it the NWO is a bit off imo, the same greedy evil violent oligarch pukes that have been, and are in charge... will continue to run things in the immediate future. There is nothing "new" about these vile reptiles consolidating their power, its been going on since forever ago.

Until then.. enjoy the ride.

posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:14 PM
This absolutely was the first public access to Gore since the begining of Climategate. It's obvious because his security was light. Only two were on video and looked like private security to my eyes, no Secret Service level.
His publisher probably got a nasty call following this run-in with WeAreChange!
He will think twice about the next signing, which is their goal when they have a group barrage.

posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:59 PM

Penn State Will Investigate 'Climategate'
November 30, 2009 02:40 PM ET | Jeff Greer | Permanent Link | Print

Among other things, the Watergate scandal of the 1970s gave us a great naming convention for future scandals. Take "Climategate" at Penn State. That's what people are calling the controversy surrounding leaked E-mails among climate change researchers that climate change opponents say expose the researchers' falsification of data. One Penn State professor is involved in the scandal.

The Penn State administration plans to investigate Climategate and determine if it needs to take further action, the Daily Collegian reports. A little more than a week ago, E-mails exchanged among an English university's climate change researchers were illegally obtained from a server and posted online, the report says.

Climate change opponents say the E-mails indicate that climate change researchers—including Penn State Prof. Michael Mann—exaggerated or fabricated global warming data. And, according to the report, some E-mails indicate that the director of the research unit in question may have contacted researchers and asked them to "delete certain E-mails."

posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 07:25 PM
Just my 2 cents I thought the protesters handled that really well, started off civil but when confronted got loud and let the people around know what they were there for, but didn't make too much of a scene and left rather quickly. Like many said earlier maybe, just maybe a few of those bystanders will research it further. I hope all these politicians, CEO's, etc. start getting questioned like this every single time they go out in public. If this happens I think it could start to change things. IMO

posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 07:48 PM

Originally posted by mrsoul2009
What is with the anger directed towards Gore? Is it because he helped make the general public aware of a very serious environmental threat? Honestly explain to me wy this makes you folks mad. Seems like this is more of a political issue whereby right-wing thinkers are against anything proposed by those not of their ideology.

... That being said, there are literally hundreds of other studies over 30 plus years that show that climate change is indeed happening.

I'm going to try to enlighten you without being patronizing because that is our job as fellow ATSers. My goal is not to "win" the argument.

For starters your argument is part of the problem. Science is supposed to be independant of "idealogy." Let the numbers speak for themselves. The temp at noon on the south lawn of the white house on june 17 1961 in washington dc should be no different were it measured by a republican or democrat.

The reason I am so mad is THE NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON WHO MEASURED THEM. The "scientists" at the CRU are fabricating numbers through the application of calibration and other adjusting factors. They say, for instance, the white house thermometer used in 1961 was replaced with another in 1972. The new thermometer must be calibrated up for no other reason than something as irrational as " there were more airconditioners in use in 1972 than 1961. Therefore it should be reading 1.5 degrees warmer and the new thermometer was obviously miscalibrated."

Science is for sale now more than ever. Corporations such GE steer congressionally funded grants to universities with implicit expectations of a quid pro quo. If you find the proper data, there will be more money.

That's nothing new its just happening on a larger scale. What is truly frightening is the suppression of valid data and the destruction of careers that is systematically occuring.

4,000 scientists signed the Heildelberg Appeal which included 72 NOBELAUREATES! They stated there is no compelling reason to cut CO2 emissions.

The Oregon Petition has 17,000 signatures verified by Frederick Seitz, former pres of Nat. Academy of Sciences.

We all want a cleaner planet. But Taxing CO2 is like taxing the air we breathe. Everybody uses it. A very few people stand to make TRILLIONS of dollars.

Gore has been working with goldman sachs to devise the exchange and means of brokering carbon credits. Don't you see? Goldman is spreading money to politicians all over the world. They are paying off scientists. This could be the biggest most profitable investment ever. And they sure need it after getting caught with too many of the worthless derivatives they peddled.

Anthropogenic global warming is a racket. Not only is it impossible to blame it on so called greenhouse gasses (try insulating your house with gas), the planet has not heated up over the last decade.

posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 07:52 PM

Originally posted by IceDash

Originally posted by Walkswithfish
About Al's book....

Looks like Al likes to use his own fakery to go along with that which bogus scientists provided him... Though apparently those bogus scientists were better at it.

Algore Photoshops Fake Earth

He took some NASA imagery of the earth and Photoshopped the following into it. And we've got a website here with both pictures: the original snapshot of the earth from NASA, and then the way Gore Photoshopped it. And here's what's on the picture that's Photoshopped: four hurricanes that were not there. The hurricane closest to Florida is spinning in the wrong direction. The hurricane off of South America is almost on the equator, which is physically impossible for hurricanes. All of the sea ice in the Arctic Ocean is removed, but snow cover over Canada and Alaska remains. Cuba, in Gore's Photoshopped picture of the earth, Cuba doesn't exist. It is not there. Cuba is totally underwater, which would require a sea level rise of over 6,000 feet, which means Denver would be underwater as well. If Cuber is under water, so would be Denver! Now, half of the Greenland ice sheet is gone, but it's out of the center; the thickest part, rather than around the edges, where it's the thinnest. It's a joke! This man is an absolute joke! He's Photoshopped a picture of the earth.

If the cover is faked what does that say for the content inside?

Alternate source:

Poor Al.

did you know the begining of his own movie ;the inconvenit truth" where it show the flying over the south pole with sun glaring over? Did you know that it a copy of "the day after tomorrow" movie begining?

didja u know that? i craught it...

[edit on 1-12-2009 by IceDash]

Wow, your right, its the exact same footage except for the quality. This is extremely deceitful because they know very well that ppl watching will assume that it's footage they acquired during their "research" for the film and that given the "documentary" is about such doom and gloom as the poles melting and the movie they got it from just so conveniently is about such a makes for an evil kind of lie which correlates with the accusations against him.

At the end of the clip in the OP he says "if people think everything I've been working towards for the last 30 years is all for greed then they don't know me." I agree, which makes his statement seemingly eerie to me. I believe his motivations are deep but not in the benevolent sense. But money and power are most definately the outcome and whoever his masters are will be the benefactors.

[edit on 1-12-2009 by Sheeper]

posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 08:11 PM
when i see ppl like that standing up for mankind, it really makes me feel good to be human. alot times i just feel sick when i think about how cruel our race can be.

posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 09:09 PM
This man is the main PR voice behind the sham of the ages known as AWG, which is proven to be a massive hoax by the hoaxsters own extensive writings. To deny this simple fact at this point, so close to Copenhagen, is as absurd as it is dangerous. I personally dont like being lied to and scammed, ive got this pesky self respect, and I wonder where the outrage is amongst adherents of the now debunked theory is? Arent you pissed that youve been deceived for over a decade? If you arent, why the hell not?

This is a radical ANTI HUMAN agenda unfolding infront of our eyes. We NEED to be PISSED.

posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 09:16 PM

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
This behaviour on the protesters part, just confirms the mainstream medias image of nutty conspiracy theorists, yelling NWO in crowded book shops. Doing more ham than good. IMO. It's not helpful

Instead of shouting about the "NWO", I feel that they could keep to the sound argument which involves the signing away our sovereignty, and the farce which many in the "Pro-AGW" Activist crowd are propagating. However, I am still glad that they confronted Al Gore, and being from their generation, I am also glad to finally see some young people who are not all caught up on just one side of the issue.

posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 09:21 PM

Originally posted by Phlegmi
Why are they screaming about a world government? And why are people so afraid of a world government? In order to progress as a species we all have to unite under a world government, so what is the big deal?

So, to suit your own belief, would you accept the destruction of all our Planet's diverse cultures, customs, and various beliefs? No single government can ever suit the immense variety of populations which inhabit this Earth. Look at the United Nations for instance, and how they happen to be an immense disaster full of corruption, protectionism, and utter worthlessness.

posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 09:44 PM
The guy walking around shouting came across as a nut.

posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 09:45 PM

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
This behaviour on the protesters part, just confirms the mainstream medias image of nutty conspiracy theorists, yelling NWO in crowded book shops. Doing more ham than good. IMO. It's not helpful

I hope is honey baked ham!

posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 11:46 PM
Ish, this is a great thread. The Climategate thing really, really pisses me off. It calls into question every single piece of science, IMO. It is a major, major showing of how science can present lies concealed by truth. Statisticians know that figures don't lie, but liars can sure figure. That is what happened with this.

Al Gore is the biggest charlatan of our generation. The snake oil he sold has cost more money than any Rube Goldberg, back page comic ad could ever dream of bilking. Xray vision, indeed.

good stuff, madam.

posted on Dec, 2 2009 @ 12:18 AM
The people who are there to get there books signed should get the Swine Flu vaccine as well.

Actually make them double doses for the people getting their books signed.

Al Gore is a scammer, and should be locked up in prison.

posted on Dec, 2 2009 @ 12:44 AM
I do agree that the protesters can give us a bad label, but we're already so deep down that rabbit hole it doesn't matter anymore. Besides-

At least these guys are doing something for Christ's sake! We all sit here and b*tch about things, but hardly any of us (including me) have really done that much to stop it! These guys have more balls than most of us do.

posted on Dec, 2 2009 @ 02:01 AM
There was the great Dragon that no one could vanquish. And a single sparrow told his friend and his friend told all his friends and their friends told their friends and the sparrows came together as one. The dragon ate many of these sparrows till he could eat no more but still the sparrows came until the dragon was buried in sparrows and soon when the dragon expelled air the sparrows moved in and took that place where the air had been once ,so slowly but so surely no air could be held in the dragons lungs and the dragon was what it was from the beginning prehistoric cold blooded , lifeless an dead. The victorious little sparrows flew in happyness in the blue sky and world was clean again. The sun came up, the sun went down and the moon came out for all to see. Global warming was the lie the dragon told. Now all the sparrows that still can think know the truth the dragon did not tell !

posted on Dec, 2 2009 @ 02:55 AM
reply to post by Stormdancer777

Its great that Al Gore was confronted. However, mixing in "New World Order" and other elements just made them look like absolute raving lunatics. The only guy who started to made sense was the last one who decided it would be better to focus on the climate change stuff... and even he threw in unrelated stuff. I mean seriously you get to shout a few scattered sentences while getting hauled off and you use them to convince everyone there of the NWO, some other conspiracy they were shouting about, and the climate change conspiracy all in one shouting? Sorry that just didn't work. But again the guy who shouted at people to research "climategate" did actually have some chance of getting taken seriously by one or two people there.

They should have just handed out brochures or something rather than shouting incomplete sentences like "New World Order".

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