Al Gore confronted on ClimateGate in Chicago

Originally posted by freighttrain
Here's a very simple analysis... if OTHER planets CO2 is rising what the hell does it do with human activity? "man made" global warming is a scam, maybe we contribute to this, but did not "cause" this.

It is a universal effect and has been raising on other planets as much as ours. I don't think it's the SUV to be blamed!

www.spacetelescope.org...

Where in your link does it support your claim that CO2 levels are rising on other planets as well?

I'll tell you, no-where.

The first sentence sums up the articles intent and scope rather nicely:

The NASA/ESA Hubble Space Telescope has discovered carbon dioxide in the atmosphere of a planet orbiting another star. This is an important step along the trail of finding the chemical biotracers of extraterrestrial life, as we know it.

Your Link

This is why those who disagree with the notion of an anthropogenic link are so often laughed at. The arguments they present are often tenuous at best and downright worthless at their worst.

That is the only relation your post has to the OP as well. The lunacy behind the argument is a nice augmentation to the 'eugenics' angle presented int he clip.

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Originally posted by SunnyDee
Does anyone think we C.T.r's were just programmed a bit differently from birth?

Were you born aware? When you were a child you had to have fallen for the tricks they play on children. That's how you learned they were indeed tricks. Perhaps you've just chosen not to drink the water anymore.

Edit: Or should I say, "their water".

[edit on 1-12-2009 by Nematode]

At this point we really shouldn't be trying to wake anyone up. Let the idiots die off, we need to fend for ourselves.

I like how they rush them along and try to give them the book after they reveal that they're against the policies that are printed in the book. Like I'd read any trash spewed by this multibillionaire, lying, piece of crap. I'd really like to see the whole Global Warming thing finally fall, but people are just too stupid to realize. Let them be ignorant, and when SHTF, let them die for their ignorance.

reply to post by ALLis0NE


I agree with your statement.

I have a question to those who believe Gore is a fraud. Other than a carbon tax implemented that can never truly be accounted for as to going towards the prevention of GW, what is wrong with stopping our emissions?

I'm a little unclear as to what all the hubbub is about. I like to breath clean air and am glad I don't live in Bangkok or China. Understandably, fixing the books is one thing but for what purpose? Just a carbon tax?

Enlighten me.

Thanks

Originally posted by DocEmrick

I like how they rush them along and try to give them the book after they reveal that they're against the policies that are printed in the book.

Actually, the loud mouths took the book from Al Gore after he signed it.


Could've thrown it at him or on the ground but nope, the "heroes" in this video decided to hold on for a memory of that time they went to a book signing and made loud noises.

reply to post by FlySolo


There is nothing wrong with cutting our emissions, and being more mindful of our environment. And I agree that the world is changing, but this is still fraud whichever way you slice it. It was used as a scare tactic by Al Gore, and it was used to make $$$'s for him and his investing buddies. This isn't the way to go about fixing our environmental woes. It's illegal to forge data.

Not too mention the even deeper rammifications, such as the world becoming more globalized, UN sanctions, and TPTB continuing to fund their outfit with the use of the fear generated by "global warming."

Maybe a bit off topic, but...

Ms. Browner initially shrugged when asked about the e-mails, saying she didn’t have a reaction. But when a reporter followed up, she said she will stick with the consensus of the 2,500 climate scientists on the International Panel on Climate Change who concluded global warming is happening and is most likely being pushed by human actions.

www.redstate.com...

How about the 31,000 AGAINST IT?!? www.tulsabeacon.com...

White House climate czar Carol Browner met today in the Capitol with architects of Senate climate change legislation and said international reaction to President Obama’s emissions reduction pledge has been positive.

thehill.com...

Just ignore the elephant in the room... hopefully the American public will too.

(Obama “Climate Czarina” Carol Browner) was on the board of one of the leading carbon offset trading companies, APX.

biggovernment.com...

Is it just me, or is it becoming more and more obvious that GW has nothing to do with the man-made warming of the Earth but rather the elite's lining of the pockets.

If this Copenhagen thing goes through and Obama signs ANYTHING... there will be hell to pay. Congress needs to put an immediate HALT to this and begin serious investigations and CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS for anyone guilty of fraud (Al - cough - F'n - cough - Gore - cough).

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I agree with mecheng, the least that should happen now is halt on all legislation/Lawmaking on this issue until a thorough public/transparent investigation is conducted.

And any criminal behavior of those involved punished.

Cheers

You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep. - Navajo

reply to post by Toecutter.


I just contacted my representatives asking congress to put a halt to any global negotiations at Copenhagen, investigate the IPCC, and prosecute if guilty of fraud.

It seems the more Al Gore lies, the more his true form manifests physically. its no surprise people have said that the whole 2012 thing will reveal many of the elites in their true draco/reptilian/orion/saurian forums

Al gores teeth and eyes are changing. Now thats a matter of ones perspective. But this is the nature of this holographic reality. If you want to see something in something you will. I think in this case, what we see it not what it seems until you really look into it. Al gore is not typical human and thats his blood. As time progresses to the shift of zero time, people will start to see the bigger picture and connect to the universal consciousness.


The elites and coporations will continue to try hide themsleves and keep holding onto this old reality of divide and conquer. This is precisely why Al gore is on this.

We talk about secret meetings of the illuminatti, Bilderburg, the trilateral commission involving supposed global conspiracies that may not even exist.
This global conspiracy includes most of the leaders of the world, respected academic institutions and research facilities and some of the most powerful corporations on earth. Its happening right in front of our faces. TPB have so little respect for us that when they are caught red handed they laugh.
If ever there was a time for in your face, up close and personal, shout to the top of your lung protesting, this is it!

We ATSers make up a small fraction of the informed world. Its up to us to alert everyone we know. Post it on facebook. Email your entire list. Mention it at school or your kid's soccer game.

Whether you are tree hugger or coal miner, the principle is that we will not stand for our leaders to perpetrate a fraud in our name no matter how "noble" the cause.

This issue should cross all political lines. If you are not willing to do something about this, why should anybody give a hoot about your fears, concerns or opinions?

At this point there is no questions about Climategate. We know it. What I want to say is that I am so glad to see these young Americans taking some actions and showing no fear, God bless them.

We should do something too. In my job, I'm talking about this to my co-workers and sending emails, they are all surprise because they didn't know about it. We need to spread it asap, we all can help.

Come on guys !

What is with the anger directed towards Gore? Is it because he helped make the general public aware of a very serious environmental threat? Honestly explain to me wy this makes you folks mad. Seems like this is more of a political issue whereby right-wing thinkers are against anything proposed by those not of their ideology.

And another thing - the hacked data does not prove that global warming is a hoax. It proves that even scientists can fail through temptation over what they do. Science is as close to the truth as we can get, but unfortunately much depends on the integrity of the people involved. Most of the researchers there are solid scientists - unfortunately as in most things in life the few spoil it for the many. That being said, there are literally hundreds of other studies over 30 plus years that show that climate change is indeed happening.

ok lets all just agree from now when one of us do this, we don't start shouting when they pull us away.

We all know when we ask the questions they will pull us a way. So with that bit of data in hand. Lets not start yelling NWO stuff.

It might be the truth, but it makes us look nutty. It feeds in to stereo type, and gives things like Al Gore a even more smokescreen to yank us out of there.

If we do ask question they don't want to be answered, we have to work the crowed. Make them want Al Gore to answer our questions. If there are news cams out there don't start shouting out in to the wind things most humans are not ready to hear or things they wont accept.

Also don't use your real name when introducing your self or have id they can take form you. Things like Al Gore will have his minions harass you with phone calls at night if he can.

The best thing to do is try to use the tactics the Yes Men use. Watch the movie How Yes Man Save The World for more info on there tactics.

Remember that things like Al Gore have no self respect, shame or honer. That is if you have forgotten this fact.

reply to post by mrsoul2009


Natural cycles in global warming... yes.
Man-made global warming... not so much.

Gore does not give a damn about the environment. If he did, he'd sell the SUVs, private planes, mansions, etc... but he doesn't - He only wants US TO.

He is only in it to make money.

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UK climate scientist to temporarily step down

www.google.com...

LONDON — The chief of a prestigious British research center caught in a storm of controversy over claims that he and others suppressed data about climate change has stepped down pending an investigation, the University of East Anglia said Tuesday.

The university said in a statement that Phil Jones, whose e-mails were among the thousands of pieces of correspondence leaked to the Internet late last month, would relinquish his position as director of Climatic Research Unit until the completion of an independent review.

A House committee has scheduled a hearing Wednesday on the status of climate science. Two prominent Obama administration scientists — White House science adviser John Holdren and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration administrator Jane Lubchenco — are expected to be questioned about the e-mails.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


Very un-biased source (sarcasm)

*patriots from WAC Chicago marched

*Gore, with an evil smirk

*By the look on his face and his stutter, it became quite clear that Gore was extremely uncomfortable with the question, so he quickly glared towards his security. The agents grabbed and assaulted Saad, escorting him away from Gore for merely asking a simple question.

Don't care about Gore or anything but just going thru that one can sense the mentality of the author. If one is presenting facts atleast do it in a neutral way so they themselves don't become the butt of joke.

I agree. It's about time we get loud. The MSM is totally silent on 'Climategate' ...all except for FOX news, Limbaigh, Hanity, and Beck.
When are we going to start getting upset at these guys? The MSM in in collusion w/ them. I say NOW! Get loud - so people take notice. Get in the background of your local TV stations filming whatever and start making a scene. The uninformed WILL step up to the plate an start asking questions! That's when the real sh*t hits the fan.
I don't think Gore has 1 honest bone in his body. Enough of him peddling this crap. Consensus my arse!

Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by Stormdancer777

 

Good about time someone confronts these clowns... Hopefully more and more Americans will take notice and begin to attack there agendas.

Whilst the rest of the world with its head screwed on and masses of evidence shakes it head in despair.

Christ sake even China is waking up without needing any international agreements, but the US.....jesus, your ignorance is jaw dropping.

Originally posted by ALLis0NE
You know what would really suck?

If climate change was real, and because large groups of people don't want to believe it "they" are forced to modify data to help convince people it is real.

Seriously, all scientists agree that Earths climate is changing. They just can't all agree on what is causing it.

All scientists agree that CO2 traps heat and acts like a greenhouse, and that is why it's called a greenhouse gas. They just don't all agree that we are producing enough to effect the Earth....

So why even chance it? If CO2 has the ability to act like a greenhouse gas, and humans are unnaturally creating it, and it could be one of the reasons for the Earth's climate change, why even debate what we should do? We should just find ways to limit it, or ways to get rid of it, so IF the time comes that we find out humans do HELP cause it, we wont feel guilty that we ruined the planet. It's like fixing a problem before it happens. It's a unique skill humans have.

There is always fools that will say "volcanoes make more CO2 than humans", and they don't realize that humans are adding to that amount. Sure it might be ok for volcanoes to make some now and then, but is it ok for humans to ADD to the amount? It's probably not a good idea.

I guess a large group of people want Earth to turn out like Mars, with a CO2 dominant atmosphere that will poison us every time we breath and kill us.



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Well, the reality is they do know what is coming, and have built underfround dumbs that can house up to 14% of the worlds population that are near completion.

They don't wish to share that information however. And the process(es) themselves, could be lions or lambs depending on a lot of other elements, some of which are cosmic, ie. energy coming or other cosmic events.

However the only manmade part is what the elite have contributed trying to speed this up and prod nature with a stick. They have deliberately tried to evoke earth changes by exploding 9 nukes in the arctic water a year ago Novemeber, right over the true north pole as reported on Ron Paul's website:

www.dailypaul.com...
Nine Arctic Nukes Exploded in Eighteen Hours

They know whats coming and are tyring to ensure its a catstrophe that ends this cycle.
But that isn't going to happen.