Leaked emails won't harm UN climate body, says chairman

Leaked emails won't harm UN climate body, says chairman

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There is "virtually no possibility" of a few scientists biasing the advice given to governments by the UN's top global warming body, its chair said today.

Pachauri said the large number of contributors and rigorous peer review mechanism adopted by the IPCC meant that any bias would be rapidly uncovered.

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"The processes in the IPCC are so robust, so inclusive, that even if an author or two has a particular bias it is completely unlikely that bias will find its way into the IPCC report," he said.

Robust, inclusive? But fraudulent?

"He pointed out that five days after the emails were made public, Barack Obama announced a major commitment to cutting greenhouse gas emissions ahead of the UN climate summit in Copenhagen."

And if Obama is in the tank with you then you know your cause is just!



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Climate Change is Happening

Despite the incident, which rocked international headlines last week, climate science is sound, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs stressed this afternoon, and the White House nonetheless believes "climate change is happening." "I don't think that's anything that is, quite frankly, among most people, in dispute anymore," he said during Monday's press briefing.

So the White House is white washing the entire outing of the fraudulent climate data? How convenient!

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I mean really, did you expect anything different.

Things are looking up though.

I was able to get both Janky Red and SG to actually see the Dems are at least doing the exact same thing as the Repubs in regards to the wars.

Maybe their is hope yet in bringing down their house of cards.

Knowledge is power, keep spreading the power. Hey I am copyrighting that right now. That was pretty good(pat self on back-hopefully I did not hear it somewhere:lol

Anyway, S&F

So they're pretty much saying:

"yeah we lied, you caught us, but what are you going to do about it?"

Remember the good ol days when our overlords at least worked in the shadows quietly?

Unscrupulous scientists manipulating data to make the final solution to problem meet their predetermined biasis. This is not science. This is strictly political.
All the data should be discarded, and someone who is honest and can change his/her mind should tackle the problem.
Climate change is a fact. The climate is always changing, year to year, decade to decade, century to century. Sometimes it's warming, sometimes it's cooling. These are normal cycles. The greenies just refuse to accept it, and the politicians see a way to make a buck at the expense of the taxpayers.

Himalayan glaciers' 'mixed picture'

A scientific debate has been triggered over the state of glaciers in the Himalayas.

Some recent findings seem to contradict claims that the glaciers are retreating rapidly. Some glaciers are even said to be advancing.

There are clear signs of glacial retreat and ice melt from other parts of the world, but few field studies have been carried out in the Himalayas.

Its glaciers too were widely believed to be receding fast.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) had said that Himalayan glaciers were receding faster than in any other part of the world.

The panel observed: "If the present rate continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by 2035 and perhaps sooner is very high if the Earth keeps warming at the current rate."

This report sparked concerns that there could be increased flooding in the short term, as glacial lakes suddenly overflowed.

In the longer term, major glacier-fed rivers, it was feared, would run dry, affecting millions in the region.

Like any religious belief the zealots who adhere to their dogmas will not be swayed by any evidence of wrong doing or blatant efforts to disguise the truth in favor of promulgating their tenets. The sex scandals that "rocked" the Catholic Church did little to change those zealots minds on the efficacy of the Holy Roman See and the Supremacy of the Vatican, nor has any efforts to discredit Scientology done much to dissuade its members from questioning their faith. Faith is a powerful system of belief and those who claim it are not willing to abandon it just because a few facts get in the way.

It took the Catholic Church over 500 years to finally admit that Galileo was correct in advocating a heliocentric universe over a geocentric one! It is worth noting that the scientific consensus of that time favored the geocentric universe. God forbid we are facing a half a century of meddlesome governments taxing the hell out of people based on faith that AGW is a valid dogma. The real problem with dogmas are the barking ones that are constantly chasing karma's, but eventually some karma will come along and run over that dogma. Here's to hoping it doesn't take 500 years for this particular dogma to be flattened out by a speeding karma.

The chairman should have said, " The leaked e-mails won`t harm the UN climate body anymore", because the harm has already been done. Nothing like the chairman trying to save face.

Maybe the Chairman should read this humorous article and consider it's more serious implications:


www.thespoof.com...

I left work at my usual 5pm yesterday and in the hour is took to get home, I heard 4 different reports of some new disaster caused by climate change.

I then got home and switched the TV on and low and behold the Himalayas are on the ITV news melting away in front of my eyes. Then there were the commercials to prevent climate change by driving 5 miles less every week (as if that'll do anything) and the commercials to get double glazing and cavity wall insulation to "save energy in heating", which will help you to single handedly save the bloody world, I'm sure.

Is it me, or are the AGW nutters really pushing forward since this email leak? It's like they've been caught with their hand in the cookie jar, but they're saying it's ok, because cookies are fattening and bad for you in the first place, so we'll just remove them from your temptation.

Talk about damage limitation...

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nik1halo

Its not your imagination. The media propaganda has indeed been put into gear. Note how global warming is now linked conclusively to health with the usual "theoretical" dead bodies and the usual "estimates" of cost to the health care system.

No matter what anyone says or does - we all have to take political action now. Send an email or letter to all of your representatives right up to the president (or prime minister).

Let honest politicians know that they will not be voted out if they fail to kowtow to the green activists.

If the greens are plotting a demonstration- show up and call them liars!

This is the exact same campaign of lies that was used to smear smokers. It is also being used to smear drinkers and obese people.

This is the campaign of the BIG LIE.

If we don't stand up to it now - we never will and will be ruled by fear forever more.

Tired of Control Freaks

Well, if they can just brush this off, what other major issues are they Brushing off? Wars? Hmm? They know whats best for us ::J-O-M::
Corrupt and filthy people, Im sick of all the scum that we call our leaders.
This admin is a JOKE. This whole damn situation is a JOKE. This damned world is, thats right you guessed it A BIG FREAKIN JOKE.
I say its time for an upgrade.

I've also noticed the recently renewed furor over supposed AGW. If this doesn't prove, once and for all, that the media is in the bag with the NWO crew, what would!?!? I've been saying for years that this whole thing is bullocks and now the proof comes out. It amazes me how some people can stick to the belief that AGW is real!?

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain - for I am the great and powerful OZ!"

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Don't get me started on smoking and drinking man. When I've got the free time I'm gonna create a thread talking about whether smoking is really as bad for you as they say, considering cases of lung cancer are up and number of smokers are down etc etc.

I've just had a smoke and it's bloody freezing outside!! Whatever happened to Global Warming then? At this rate, we might even get a white Christmas... Nah, never happens here.

Of course the Obama administration has to continue to support the theory of man made global warming (climate change) because it is essential to their globalist agendas.

Through climate change legislation in the USA and international agreements they eventually plan to set up a global governing body to deal with climate and environmental issues..... A global governing body that can arbitrarily dictate the energy policies of many nations.

Global Governance.

The early beginning of a one world government.

Obama would like very much to have this happen on his watch. His agendas will destroy and rebuild our nation through socialist reforms, climate legislation and taxes etc, all designed to have the USA fit within this global system.

All we can realistically do at this point (short of an impossible revolution) is sit back and watch it happen.

Enjoy the show!

It's not about science, or data, or even ecology; it's about revenue flow.

Little will come of an independent investigation because they don't intend to do anything.

The Nobel committee, the media conglomerate, the financial cartel are all driving the political marionettes to make sure that whatever solution we authorize consists of them getting richer.

The manipulation of data and the consistent presentation of a paper-skewed set of pseudo-facts; along with the scientific "community's" "self-policing" results demonstrate just what has become of our noble learned 'elite' leaders of human knowledge. They are no longer trustworthy. They have become 'political'. And the expression of scientific fact has become a matter of expedience.

what an arrogant swine- who do these dictators think they are! Think the Soviets and the Nazis used to brandish "science" about to excuse their totalitarian utopian "adventures"

Originally posted by plumranchRobust, inclusive?

But fraudulent?

The thing that gets me, is they will do all this and say they fixed a problem that didn't exist, while we have real problems in this world.

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It's not about science, or data, or even ecology; it's about revenue flow.

I was in science many years ago. To make a go of it, to get the grant, get the fancy lab equipment, the building you had to apply carefully for the grant, word the proposal just right with just the right flavor of political correctness, otherwise you didn't get anything but your basic salary. Things haven't changed. It's still who you suck up to and how well you do it!