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Let's assume Nazi UFOs exist

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posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 02:21 PM
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UFOs don’t exist, just like a peace loving National Socialist. If you google “Nazi” here on ATS you get 100 pages with results, just like “Hitler”. Everyone and everything that has resemblance with the common knowledge/historical “facts” of that era is being called a Nazi, “fourth Reich” or “little Hitler”. Nazi and Hitler are evil words, only because the main stream told you so.

UFOs and Aliens, they don’t exist and if there is alien life on other planets they are so far away that they would never be able to reach us. Physics prevent them from doing so. So there is nothing to worry about or to be afraid of for the general public, according to the main stream.

We only have to fear the financial crisis, terrorism proudly presented by Osama Bin Laden, the Swine Flu and our materialistic needs.

But what is with the rumors that suggest an alternative reality?

Let’s assume that Germany was invaded and occupied by the USA and a puppet government was installed, pretty much the same way the US of A recently did in Iraq and Afghanistan. And what if the Holocaust was just another scam just like 9/11 or Saddam’s weapons of mass-destruction? Don’t get upset, let’s just assume, ok? Let’s also assume that the VRIL Society really existed, that they really succeeded to build flying saucers and fled together with Hitler to South America, Neu Schwabenland, Antarctica and later to the Moon, Mars and God knows where else in the multiverse, if it turns out to be true that there is an multidimensional portal on the North- and South Pole due to the static electromagnetic vortex that is being produced there by the Earth’s rotation. They left 65 years ago and in this period they have met and made friends with various species in space, had the chance to regain strength and due to a birth program they were able to build quickly a huge modern society somewhere in this multiverse. But they want their Germany back and liberate their brothers and sisters in the still occupied territory and the rest of the world from these alien lizards/NWO/USA that dominate(s) this planet.

They’ve completely had it and on the evening of December 21st 2012 they will launch an attack against the NWO. You wake up that morning not knowing all this and you see UFOs with aliens and flying saucers with swastikas on them flying across your head attacking US soldiers.

How would you react?


Here's a little video I recently found and that inspired me for this thread:




posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by Regenstorm
Nazi and Hitler are evil words, only because the main stream told you so.


Personally I find these words turn my stomach because of the proven and truly undeniable actions of individuals associated with them. As to the rest, what is the point of what if scenarios? We can never know with all of the possible variables. It is a form of amusement in thinking that can lead to a form of thought that again leads to misconceptions.

[edit on 30-11-2009 by badmoviefan]



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by Regenstorm
Nazi and Hitler are evil words, only because the main stream told you so.


That, and what they did to members of my family and millions of others.


You're not that pig ignorant, are you? Please tell me that I'm misunderstanding you...



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 03:05 PM
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Assuming is fun, but it sounds like a bunch of neo-Nazi Black Sun occultist nonsense.

Would make for a hell of a movie though. I'd watch it.



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by draknoir2


That, and what they did to members of my family and millions of others.


You're not that pig ignorant, are you? Please tell me that I'm misunderstanding you...


No, this is just a combination of the various conspiracies that surround the Nazi UFOs, just an what if...
I also don't want to debate the Holocaust. You can leave that out if you want and we can assume that the VRIL society had nothing to do with the regime.
I've been looking into this Nazi UFO thing and some of the "what ifs" are true.

Like, is there a peace treaty between the nations that were at war with Germany? No there is not, only the 2 + 4 treaty.
Was there a military base from the Nazis on Antarctica? Yes there was.
Did the VRIL Society exist? Yes they did.
Did they find Hitler? No they didn't.
Did many Nazis flee to South America? Yes they did.
Were there German submarines captured long after the war? Yes there were.
Did Germany experiment with flying saucers? Yes, they did.
Do we have a NWO?



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 03:32 PM
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So I watched that little video "Nazi's on Mars" and I couldn't even laugh the fantasy feature was really hard to watch. Then, when I thought it was over, they included the US/USSR mission to mars 1962 video lol! Um, priceless.
If I only save one good ATS member from watching that horrendous video, I believe I have accomplished something for my fellow ATSers.
Vance



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Regenstorm

I also don't want to debate the Holocaust.


That answers my question.



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 03:45 PM
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They’ve completely had it and on the evening of December 21st 2012 they will launch an attack against the NWO. You wake up that morning not knowing all this and you see UFOs with aliens and flying saucers with swastikas on them flying across your head attacking US soldiers.

Man, you will be sooo disappointed.



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 04:16 PM
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Why should I be disappointed?
Ignoring the facts with one liners really puts things in perspective.
I see that you are German.
Would be nice if you would share your opinion about this essay.
www.lutzschaefer.com...〈=
Or did you know that the sales-tax you pay in Germany is still a War-Tax?
www.brunner-architekt.ch...



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 07:19 PM
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Hey Regenstorm!..... I'd have to say, Im with you on this!

Yeah the story is far fetched, but.... there is something about it that keeps
me drawn to the fact that "it might have happened"

Anyways... here is my ATS thread on it I posted a while back
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Damn interesting if you ask me... pretty hard to grasp even though Hitler
always wanted to be one up on everybody in the world!
If they really did build a suacer that could go into space.. I guarantee Hilter had or made people go on the journey!



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 03:33 AM
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Originally posted by ImplausibleDeniability

Assuming is fun, but it sounds like a bunch of neo-Nazi Black Sun occultist nonsense.

Would make for a hell of a movie though. I'd watch it.


Your wish is my command...




posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 03:48 PM
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Nice!.........

Im surprised, I didn't know about this movie. Looks like a "must see!"



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 03:59 PM
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Well, they are working on it for more than 2 years now, the premiere is still not in sight. I think that they have trouble funding it because it might glorify and propagate the Nazis and many people could be offended.



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 04:00 PM
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You did misunderstand him, he said...



Don’t get upset, let’s just assume, ok?


It's a simple "What If" post, no need to get upset or offended.



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 04:10 PM
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Why has the "Aliens and UFO's" section of ATS been allowed to degrade into including garbage such as this? There's a reason why the "skunk-works" section has a place in these forums. Posts like this embarrass the hell out me when I send a friend a link to one of the very few good topics that are posted here every now and then. It severely cripples peoples efforts when trying to rise someones interests in the UFO phenomenon.




posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 05:14 PM
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You may call it garbage, there are however people that are convinced that the garbage has a certain amount of reality.
And there is an alien connection in this story as I mentioned my little "what if" story. There are rumors that the VRIL society had contact with "Nordics" from Aldebaran. There is a German book in which there is made a connection between the abduction phenomena and the Nazi UFOs. It is written by a couple that claims to have been abducted many times. They even claim that some of the greys are bio-robots engineered by German scientists and that they are creating a new species that would replace us humans after "the big bang".

Great stuff for a good movie...



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:07 PM
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Hey "Jocko Flocko"
This topic IS in the right forum!... as Regenstorm said.
If you no like...you no read, that simple.

In the summer of 1922 in a small barn outside of Munich the occult Thule and Vril Gesellschaften (Societies) set about to create an inter-dimensional flight machine based upon channeled information received by their two mediums (Maria Orsic and Sigrun) from the Aldebaran system in the Taurus Constellation, 64 light years away.



Maria, the Thule medium, had been receiving information from what she believed were Aryan aliens living on a planet in the Aldebaran system since 1919 but could not translate their language and strange mental images.

Sigrun, the Vril medium was brought in to help translate these communications and images which were in the form of the ancient Sumerian language and a strong mental image of a strange circular flight machine with an even stranger cylindrical power plant beyond all conventional science of the time.

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Its crazy that the main creator of the Vril was a woman "Vril Chefin Maria Orsic (Orsitsch)"


Source - discaircraft.greyfalcon.us... Full story!

[edit on 1-12-2009 by kyleplatinum]



posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 06:29 PM
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I love what if stuff like this based in some sort of reality.

Thank you.

I wish there was one source for all this Nazi occult stuff online, it is really interesting.



posted on Dec, 2 2009 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by Alexander the Great
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You did misunderstand him, he said...



Don’t get upset, let’s just assume, ok?


It's a simple "What If" post, no need to get upset or offended.


Well, I don't want to upset any one, but I think that many people are, but not because of the historical denial. I think that some people are more or less scared.
Why do I think that?
Because so far, no one answered my question.
This is something most Americans would not like to see that it happened, but what if?

How would you react?

Would you have to put on diapers and crawl under a rock?
Would you attack them?
Would you lay low and remain Neutral to make out what is really going on?
Would you join them although you consider them as the bad guys?
Or would you commit suicide?



posted on Dec, 2 2009 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by Regenstorm
UFOs don’t exist, just like a peace loving National Socialist.


Are you sure? Didn't Rudolf Hess fly on his own in a small airplane to Britain to negotiate for peace behind the back of the British war mongers? Didn't Adolf Hitler offer numerous peace proposals to Britain that the British kept ignoring? Weren't it Britain and France that declared war on Germany as Germany invaded Poland as it kept ignoring Germany's pleas to keep (and their eventual ultimatum) regarding the negotiation of a solution for ethnic Germans in Poland and the Danzig issue?.


Originally posted by Regenstorm
Nazi and Hitler are evil words, only because the main stream told you so.


Let's put it this way. If Hitler has won WW2, Hitler would now have been considered the greatest statesman of the 20th century, capitalism would have been replaced by solidarism and Jewish culture would generally be considered to be a parasitic culture that infects its host cultures and bleeds them dry. Or if Stalin hadn't stopped at the Iron Wall and had his Red Army march all the way through England and Portugal, we would now all be quoting Marx with great admiration and belong to the proletarian masses. At least (in both cases) assuming the education system and the media do their work as most ideas most people hold are based on a biased education and biased media no matter what political system you live in.


Originally posted by Regenstorm
UFOs and Aliens, they don’t exist and if there is alien life on other planets they are so far away that they would never be able to reach us. Physics prevent them from doing so.


It seems so, although we never know science finds a solution for eg. folding space or crossing the temporal barrier. Many inventions once believed impossible are now an every day reality.


Originally posted by Regenstorm
We only have to fear the financial crisis, terrorism proudly presented by Osama Bin Laden, the Swine Flu and our materialistic needs.


All carefully planned by the elite as they keep pushing their agenda.

But what is with the rumors that suggest an alternative reality?


Originally posted by Regenstorm
Let’s assume that Germany was invaded and occupied by the USA and a puppet government was installed, pretty much the same way the US of A recently did in Iraq and Afghanistan. And what if the Holocaust was just another scam just like 9/11 or Saddam’s weapons of mass-destruction? Don’t get upset, let’s just assume, ok?


What's interesting about that assumption, is that any research that leads to this conclusion is a criminal offense in several Western-European countries, which implies that this particular aspect of human history is defined by political dogma rather than historical inquiry. One does wonder why these draconic measures if there's nothing to hide....


Originally posted by Regenstorm
Let’s also assume that the VRIL Society really existed, that they really succeeded to build flying saucers and fled together with Hitler to South America, Neu Schwabenland, Antarctica and later to the Moon, Mars and God knows where else in the multiverse, if it turns out to be true that there is an multidimensional portal on the North- and South Pole due to the static electromagnetic vortex that is being produced there by the Earth’s rotation.


If this were true, I bet Hitler would have returned with a vengeance after '45. The total lack of evidence and its incredibly farfetched nature makes this little more than food for possibly entertaining sci-fi or esoteric Hitlerists like Miguel Serrano.


Originally posted by Regenstorm
They’ve completely had it and on the evening of December 21st 2012 they will launch an attack against the NWO. You wake up that morning not knowing all this and you see UFOs with aliens and flying saucers with swastikas on them flying across your head attacking US soldiers.


Why wait? Do they need to wait until the end of the Mayan calendar for dramatic effect? Aren't they ready now already?


Originally posted by Regenstorm
How would you react?


I'd probably be in shock for a moment trying to figuring out if I'm not hallucinating, then run away and look for a safe spot with Internet connection and then stay hidden until I know what's going on. Whatever happens then will depend on too many factors to predict. With all this religious and ethnic tension in the West today, you will probably be clueless about who's on your side.




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