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Levels of Consciousness

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posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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I am not an psychologist, nor am I an psychic. Then why you should even listen to me, as I probably don't have a clue what I am talking about? Well, four words: "You don't have to", for I am not going to submit in the modern way of enlisting credentials on various matters, disciplines nor faculties - I'll let the words to speak on their behalf.

Please note that following classification is not compelling, neither it is necessarily an accurate one. One can be a worker, yet have a high level of consciousness. Also, being high on hierarchy, on the top offices, does not guarantee that one is an individual of high consciousness. Furthermore, beings of every level of following classification can fill any position in our societies; it is much dependant on the conditions and other circumstances. Sometimes for the society it is good to have a president of low consciousness, and sometimes it is imperative that the position is filled with highly conscious individual.

Below classification is generalization and also merely speculation; think of it as a theory of social sciences where the single unit is irrelevant (especially on two lower levels), and only the greater amounts are significant. Also, it is a thought-play, for this is the first time I attempt to put this down as a text; so quite likely there will be mistakes, inconsistencies and plain errors. Also, it might be that a similar type of structure is proposed by someone else - whether it has, I had no idea.

Levels of Consciousness



Level 0

People who do their daily work and other activities, without ever really stopping to think what they are really doing are here, at the zero level. They are the drones of the establishment, keeping it's wheels running - ensuring the required leisure for those who are at higher level of consciousness. They are the soldiers, the workers, the ones, that doesn't really care about anything else than their own well being. "I have work to do, everything is all right." - they work because they have loans, families and themselves to support.

These people are very important TPTB, as they are comparable to the engine that gives power to the system. But they can also be very dangerous as they are mass-minded, and when they get out of control, disasters are about. People from this level rarely make a fast climb to the upper levels as there are so many obstacles on the way. But sometimes, if their career leads them to the relevant information, it may cause a wake-up call in them and they may start to questioning the things. These people are often very respective towards authorities and have high moral, which of course is given them by authorities and they never have really thought it about themselves.

Level 1

People who has awaken are on this level. They have come into the realizations like: "Who am I? Why am I really doing all the crap that I am doing?". They occasionally stop to think and wonder the events that are happening in the world. Although they don't necessarily have a clue of anything, they have awakened in the sense that have begun to question.

Sometimes they have experiences which they fail to explain, and hence they are still quite ignorant in a sense that they do not know themselves very well. They are still somewhat easy prey for TPTB, as they can be led astray and make them belief into all kind of nonsense. But occasionally these people have the required capacity to ascend on higher levels of consciousness, even very rapidly. They have the required potential to become totally aware.

Level 2

People on this level are somewhat cognitive. They are certainly awake, but might still lack the required experience and capabilities required to enter higher level of consciousness. They have begun to see the flaws and imbalances that are evident in the system. They have acquired relevant information about societies in general. Usually they have high motivation to make the world a better place.

Generally these people will eventually start ascending in levels of consciousness, yet there is the potential chance for descent, if they are possessed by the illusions of the material, which is the goal of TPTB. It is already getting crowded on level 3 and everyone wants their piece of the cake, so they want to object the ascension of consciousness by all manners.

Level 3

To this level I'd place at the tops of the pyramid, or the right arm of the Leviathan. They are the ones who are highly conscious, they have understood that ethical values means nothing in reality, and which are only tools that can be used to control those who are on the lower levels of consciousness. Also, on this level are the people that are the most evident opponents of TPTB. Level 3 people often have highly accurate information about the events of the world and are highly informed.

These are often so blinded in their personal power that they will ascend no further. The power on this level may be economical, political or even power in form of knowledge. So they are satisfied to the wealth they have and hence fall the pit of possession of material.

Level 4

These people are ones that are beginning to reach something which many call 'enlightenment'. They are the illuminated ones and ones that truly knows the language of psychology. They are beginning to transcend the humanity in the sense that they feel it inappropriate to directly affect the events in the world by means of political power. They can interpret the psychological language of collective consciousness which is evident in media, beliefs, religions, world events and so on.

These people are the real PTB. They can be both benevolent and malevolent, but they do agree on one thing: To preserve to order for their favour. They are not so superior in consciousness that they would've seen reality from the universal perspective. They are still holding on what they consider to belong to themselves and are ruthlessly using the lower levels for their purposes.

Level 5

To this level belongs the individuals that can cause madness in minds belonging to lower levels by a single sentence. They know how to communicate with both, individual and collective consciousness and subconsciousness. They can utter a "word of power" that will break the psychology of lesser mind when given in right condition; and usually they know when the right condition is. These people transcend concepts of good and evil, for they know that good and evil are merely conditional conceptions; when something is good, it is good because it is an good solution to a certain problem, but would the problem be something else, the very same solution may appear to be evil, as it would make the problem worse.

Level 5 people are constantly aware of their surrounding and hence they rarely make mistakes. But as human being cannot be perfect, even they fail sometimes. They are dead to the mundane emotions and hence they are often perceived as cold, careless people, but they are not. They seek the best of the humanity as well as they seek the best of the whole planet and universe. They have really transcended humanity, because they know in a perfect certainty that human being is dependant of the whole system.



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posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 11:57 AM
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Good observations my friend.
How did you come to these conclusions...are they just observation mixed with some ponderings?

Much love...



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 12:05 PM
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Results of both that you mentioned, plus some propaganda and information acquired throughout my life. I am glad if you found it appropriate.

-v



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 12:11 PM
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It's interesting, I would say it's more life awareness then consciousness.

I might be bias too because I enjoy the Monroe Institute's break down of focus states as it pertains to consciousness.

www.monroeinstitute.org...

And I can relate first hand with several of them through my expeirences with altered states of consciousness.

[edit on 30-11-2009 by YouAreDreaming]



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 12:14 PM
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Hmm, yer ok.

Your level 5 then i assume?

Peace.



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 12:17 PM
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Well you might be right as well. By the way, interesting information behind the link you posted. Thanks.

Also, now that we have this level as a background, it could be funny to try place certain leaders and other figures of social importance on the levels? Where would the Pope be? How about former US president, G.I Bush - I mean G.W.Bush? And so on...


-v



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 12:21 PM
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I'd be disqualified to place myself on any levels. I don't have a mirror that would be efficient enough to show me that objectively


-v



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 12:26 PM
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I think the Monroe Institute is taking consciousness into a different direction then you are as per what happens to consciousness when we fall asleep.

Your states addresses it during a wakeful period when we are here in our physical focus state. However, Monroe calles this wakefull state focus 1.

What is interesting to note though is that we are evolving consciousness systems and there seems to be stages of evolution that comes with the human expeirence. In many cases from what I have read, it seems that the qualities we are striving for are:

* Our intellect.
* Our capacity to love and transform emotional energies.
* Our ability to be conscious in altered states during sleep.
* Our ability to create reality based on the above.

It's all very interesting to think about. I often wonder about the conscious purpose of people such as Stalin, Hitler and GW bush ala TPTB... certainly not the way I'd want to see things here on Earth.

I'd be more interested in a loving direction for humanity then one of control, war and death.



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 12:36 PM
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Please note that following classification is not compelling, neither it is necessarily an accurate one.


Your right there


Peace.



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by YouAreDreaming
It's interesting, I would say it's more life awareness then consciousness.


This is what I was thinking but was having trouble to put in words.
It may be just a matter of definitions but as I understand it consciousness is something much much wider than what your list aprehends and I would understand all the levels of consciousness that you have listed as actually being in the first level of consciousness (having as reference our birth in this body). This first level of consciousness could be called life awareness as YouAreDreaming has put it. But then comes other awarenesses. Death awareness could be the level 2, for instance.

[edit on 30-11-2009 by Geladinhu]



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by LiveForever8
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Please note that following classification is not compelling, neither it is necessarily an accurate one.


Your right there


Peace.


Then why did you even bother?

2nd -



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 01:17 PM
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I wanted to know if the OP thought of himself/herself as being in level 5. That's why i bothered.

Then i used that quote to highlight the irrelevance of his definitions.

After all, unless you are a 'level 5', its impossible to know.

Don't take it too seriously, nobody gets out alive anyway.

Peace.



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 01:39 PM
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Well, I am not taking it too seriously, I hope that you aren't either.

I've stated my position in three introducting paragraphs at the beginning of the post, I also stated that you don't have to(in four words) read it, in case you find it inappropriate, ridiculous or implausibe. But whatever the case is, you are entitled to your opinions and feel free to comment further if you have something to say.

-v



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 01:45 PM
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I have made an attempt to post as secular topic as possible, stripping it from all spirituality, focusing only on psychological aspects of consciousness.

I stripped the spirituality out from it for a purpose. To me, all spirituality is psychological and perfectly explainable by secular means. I don't believe in ghost and not much on anything else that are beyond my subjective experiences. (See this thread, to find out more about the OP's stance.)

The spiritual side of consciousness belongs to level 1 according the preceding presentation.

-v

[edit on 30-11-2009 by v01i0]



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by LiveForever8
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I wanted to know if the OP thought of himself/herself as being in level 5. That's why i bothered.

Then i used that quote to highlight the irrelevance of his definitions.

After all, unless you are a 'level 5', its impossible to know.

Don't take it too seriously, nobody gets out alive anyway.

Peace.


He already stated the irrelevance of his defintions so why did you feel the need to highlight it?



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 02:25 PM
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Thank you for posting this. Its a nice read and something to think about.



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by SeeingBlue

Originally posted by LiveForever8
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I wanted to know if the OP thought of himself/herself as being in level 5. That's why i bothered.

Then i used that quote to highlight the irrelevance of his definitions.

After all, unless you are a 'level 5', its impossible to know.

Don't take it too seriously, nobody gets out alive anyway.

Peace.


He already stated the irrelevance of his defintions so why did you feel the need to highlight it?


Did he now, where was that?

Peace.



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 06:47 PM
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Are you serious? You quoted it. Anyways I liked his definitions, I would consider myself a mix of them all tho so I'm not sure how practical categorizing is when you fit in them all in someway.



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 06:54 PM
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I am deadly serious. The OP never once stated his theory was irrelevant, i merely used a quote of his to prove it so.

Soooooooooo


Peace.



posted on Nov, 30 2009 @ 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by LiveForever8
reply to post by SeeingBlue
 


I am deadly serious. The OP never once stated his theory was irrelevant, i merely used a quote of his to prove it so.


If you quoted the OP to prove your case, isn't your claim somewhat hypocritical? How can you quote me in order to show that, unless I have never made such claims?

Well, the irrelevance is really your opinion about the OP. However, I've stated:


Originally posted by v01i0
Please note that following classification is not compelling, neither it is necessarily an accurate one.


and,


Originally posted by v01i0
Below classification is generalization and also merely speculation;


and,


Originally posted by v01i0
...quite likely there will be mistakes, inconsistencies and plain errors.


All that should be suffiecient enough for the reader to determine that I am not presenting this as an absolute truth.

If you have something to contribute, or perhaps critique, please state it - but I wish that in future you would refrain from trolling and derailing because one is inclined to think that it it your sole purpose, judging from the type of your comments.

Let's assume that I would've answered positively to the question on your initial post. What then would've you done? You would've started to blame me for overevaluating myself and thinking too much about my quality, right? Or would've you instead accepted the contents of the OP? Heh, probably not. But then again, now you can think of something completely else to show everyone that I was wrong.

Really, I can't and won't put myself on any level on that structure.

All the best,

-v

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