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Originally posted by Mak Manto
Old Dagger is right.
A grand jury is not able to indict the President for treason. That power lies only with Congress, who's the supreme authority of the land.
Look, for all of you Obama "he's not a natural-born citizen" people: get over it...
He's our President. I didn't like Bush as President, but I said the same thing about the stupid impeachment movements for him. You don't need to like Obama, but many of you have to stop this nonsense that the man isn't a natural-born citizen.
He was born in Hawaii. Multiple state government, colleges, hospitals, and much more collaborate that he was born in Hawaii. Not one single proven birth certificate has come out yet that shows he was born elsewhere.
That means, any birth certificate that shows he was born in Kenya or Indonesia have been proven to be hoaxes.
He's legally allowed to be the President.
The "question", if you mean Obama's citizenship, has been asked and answered and the Congress ( according to Constitutional proceedure) has declared him the duly and lawfully elected President. If that doesn't satisfy you, really who cares? Do you think the courts exist for everybody in the country to air their gripes and questions?
Courts exist to decide matters of law. that's LAW, not some Youtube video.
It's over! Done! Obama IS President and will remain so.
It's totally irrelevant what you or the "birthers ' think!
Every court in the US would be clogged with every petty gripe and "theory' on you name it by the "patriot's' reasoning.
If this clown in the OP's strory had any real evidence, he could petetion any member of Congress1 simple as that! If you had any real understanding of the courts, the law or The constitution you would know how darn silly this whole thing is!
Originally posted by OpTiMuS_PrImE
reply to post by Donkey_Dean
i don't recall ever saying it was going to happen should be interesting to watch though
[edit on 30-11-2009 by OpTiMuS_PrImE]
Originally posted by Libertygal
Originally posted by 4nsicphd
Originally posted by Libertygal
There were several state grand juries that formed and found him guilty. The above website has lots of information.
[edit on 30-11-2009 by Libertygal]
Oh=Oh, somebody missed too many days of civics class. Only a slope-headed slack=jawed mouthbreathing fool believes that grand juries find anyone guilty. They indict. Juries, or maybe lynch mobs led by this poster find people guilty. That basic fact of American law has been stated multiple times in this thread. Repeating the ignorant, foolish and obviously racist lie that Obama has been found guilty by several grand juries must be an intentional lie! I bet Liberty gal lives in or near Selma, AL, Jackson, Miss, or Tuscaloosa, AL and misses the good old days.Why else repeat a groundless lie. You probably are cute. So much more the tragedy.
There has to be a presumption of probable cause, read guilt, to indict.
I just posted the link as information, if you don't like it, too bad.
And screw off with the personal attacks.
You are the evil anarchist guilty of treason against our country. You are undermining the President of the United States. Finally we are GREAT AGAIN. Can you please try not to muck it up
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Originally posted by rusethorcain
reply to post by OpTiMuS_PrImE
What is so humorous here is I remember commenting on the fact that people were not allowed to attend a Bush rally with anti-Bush t-shirts on. You know the red circles with the slash through them over the word Bush?
The couple that wore them were arrested, held for a time and released. It was against the Patriot Act to even disparage the President in public.
Boy times have changed. You should stop drinking the tea.
Barack Obama is a great patriot and the President I voted for. He is doing a great job. If you are a Christian, rest assured - God's will WAS done just like you pray. You are the evil anarchist guilty of treason against our country. You are undermining the President of the United States. Finally we are GREAT AGAIN. Can you please try not to muck it up?
If the GOP is the right choice why are the top 5 recommendations of the Earth Policy Institute (a non partisan think tank devoted to saving the planet and our species) in direct opposition to the Republican Party platform????
1. Control population growth
2. Control climate change
3. Conserve fossil fuel use
4. Conserve resources
5. Eradicate poverty and hunger on the planet.
Because their goal is to destroy the planet - not save it.
Originally posted by OldDragger
reply to post by Libertygal
I seriously do not consider US Supreme Court Justice Scalia to being someone spewing garbage.
Really? I consider Scalia as almost anti Constitutional.
And do you hold the other Justices in the same high regard?