reply to post by Nutter
I was typing and lost an entire post...so here goes again...
I can see one pilot getting surprised like this, but what about the other pilot?
Well, isn't it possible that at least TWO bad guys rushed the cockpit in the attack to take over the airpalne? That's how I would have planned
Now, this is something that has been talked about many, many times, seems I have to elaborate (again) on it, to adjust some misconceptions:
To not even be able to squack to hijack code?
You see, the purpose of a discrete transponder squawk code for hijackings is to be able to tell ATC covertly
about a situation. There
are code words to use, theory being that IF the pilots can't speak in the clear, then they can get the point across and the bad guys are no wiser.
IF a hijacking situation develops in the cabin, and the cockpit is secure, THEN the pilots will notify ATC (and their company, nowadays, with all the
technology we have) in plain English. No need to squawk...in fact, if anything, they'll go straight to the 'emergency' code. BUT, even that is
unneeded...it makes a big dispaly on the ATC radar screen, and could be distracting. Again, as long as you're in radio comm with the ground, the
transponder codes aren't needed.
Also, how did they kill the pilots while sitting strapped in and then remove their bodies from the flight seat without knocking the controls
out of "auto pilot"?.
This is even easier to explain, because I can show pictures. Firstly, the seats in the B-757/767 move well aft, and outboard
Here's a good shot (of a Delta jet) showing the seats all the way back and outboard, along with showing the tracks on the floor:
Here's a side angle, where you can see how much room there is between the seat and the lower part of the control column:
One more (it was a simple, quick search) to show an example of a person in the seat, in this case, the First Officer (on the right). They are not in
flight --- I can see that the engines are shut down, and the airspeed is Zero!! The F/O has his seat all the way back, you can see his legs space:
What's more, the control column and wheel are not 'hair trigger' when it comes to accidentally bumping them and causing an uncommanded A/P
disconnect. In fact, in some cases, the A/P will first default to a more basic mode, where it stays engaged (controlling basic pitch and roll) but
some of the upper-level programming may drop off...still, A/P remains.
Also, wasn't it reported by either Betty Ong or someone else that the pilots were herded to the rear of the plane?
Now, that I'm not sure about. I expect the circumstances were different on each airplane. It's hard to know what all EIGHT of the pilots did, how
they died, etc. Find it dubious, though, that any would leave the cockpit under those circumstances....certainly not willingly, I can tell you
Much is pure specualtion, otherwise.