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Originally posted by bsbray11
Originally posted by dereks
Have the truthers ever explained how no one noticed the tonnes of explosives
So you know what kind of explosives were used?
It's funny how you compare this to a commercial demolition using TNT/C4,
and think therefore the same thing MUST have happened here or else it simply could not have been a controlled demolition at all.
so I guess it wasn't an inside job after all, right?
Originally posted by dereks
Originally posted by bsbray11
Originally posted by dereks
Have the truthers ever explained how no one noticed the tonnes of explosives
So you know what kind of explosives were used?
Yes, the invisible kind that take up no weight, no space and do not need a human kind to emplace
Originally posted by bsbray11
It's impossible to ever hide anything in a massive office skyscraper.
Originally posted by dereks
It is certainly impossible to hide the many tonnes of explosives that would have been needed, and all the holes bashed thru walls, concrete removed etc.
Originally posted by bsbray11
Originally posted by dereks
It is certainly impossible to hide the many tonnes of explosives that would have been needed, and all the holes bashed thru walls, concrete removed etc.
Except you never actually proved that all of that would have had to have been necessary.
Originally posted by dereks
To bring down a building the size of the WTC buildings, yes it would have been necessary.
Do some simple research and you would know that to.
Originally posted by bsbray11
If it's really that simple then I expect to be seeing something to back it up in your next post.
Originally posted by GoldenFleece
It was proven and now you're back for more?
Thermite has already been found in the WTC dust.
Bombs and "secondary devices" were discovered by FDNY firefighters, including the FDNY Public Safety Chief. EVERYONE heard massive secondary explosions.
Originally posted by GoldenFleece
reply to post by dereks
Aren't you the guy who questioned whether the WTC towers were designed to withstand the impact of multiple 707s?
Thermite has already been found in the WTC dust.
Bombs and "secondary devices" were discovered by FDNY firefighters, including the FDNY Public Safety Chief.
EVERYONE heard massive secondary explosions.
What the hell else is needed to convince you that 9/11 was in inside job?
Originally posted by RipCurl
No explosive devices were discovered by the FDNY. Explosions were heard, but they were not created by explosives. there were several sources of the explosions heard on 9/11 and they weren't created by bombs.
Why do you continue to spread these lies?
Originally posted by dereks
767's are coniderably heavier and were travelling faster than a 707, and as KE=1/2MVsquared...
To summarize the aircraft:
The maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 707-320B is 336,000 pounds.
The maximum takeoff weight for a Boeing 767-200ER is 395,000 pounds.
The wingspan of a Boeing 707 is 146 feet.
The wingspan of a Boeing 767 is 156 feet.
The length of a Boeing 707 is 153 feet.
The length of a Boeing 767 is 159 feet.
The Boeing 707 could carry 23,000 gallons of fuel.
The Boeing 767 could carry 23,980 gallons of fuel.
The cruise speed of a Boeing 707 is 607 mph = 890 ft/s,
The cruise speed of a Boeing 767 is 530 mph = 777 ft/s.
Originally posted by GoldenFleece
Now tell us again, who's the liar?
Originally posted by GoldenFleece
Now tell us again, who's the liar?
[edit on 4-12-2009 by GoldenFleece]
Originally posted by RipCurl
sorry but where in that yOUTUBE video is a the evidence of bombs? I dont see it. Please point it out.
"Just moments ago, I spoke to the Chief of Safety for the NYC fire department, Chief Albert Turrey. He received word of a secondary device -- that is another bomb going off. He tried to get his men out as quickly as he could, but he said there was another explosion which took place and then an hour after the first crash that took place, he said there was another explosion in one of the towers here. He thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building. The second device, he thinks, he speculates was planted in the building..."
"There's a bomb in the building -- start clearing out."
Originally posted by GoldenFleece
Originally posted by RipCurl
sorry but where in that yOUTUBE video is a the evidence of bombs? I dont see it. Please point it out.
Any other questions?
You claimed "Bombs and "secondary devices" were discovered by FDNY firefighters, including the FDNY Public Safety Chief."
So once again, show us the pictures of these bombs you claim were discovered - why are you refusing to?
Because it is just another truther lie!
Originally posted by dereks
Of course another little fact the truthers ignore is that the seismographs that recorded the event show no sign of a explosion, so not only are the explosives invisible they also leave no physical evidence - care to explain that?
Originally posted by bsbray11
Originally posted by dereks
Of course another little fact the truthers ignore is that the seismographs that recorded the event show no sign of a explosion, so not only are the explosives invisible they also leave no physical evidence - care to explain that?
How can you say they left no physical evidence when you have plenty of witnesses who say otherwise?
I don't know what you're basing the claim on that the seismographs didn't shown signs of explosives, but the "collapses" initiated with energetic spikes registered as minor earthquakes and could be heard and felt in Brooklyn.
Originally posted by RipCurl
A lot of speculation was being done on that day. No one had any idea of what was going on. It wasn't until AFTER the attacks and the collapses and the investigation started when everyone had a CLEARER picture of what happened.
A lot of things in a 110 story office building can give off "explosion" like sounds:
1) generators (there were several generators in the buildings, one whole floor in each tower was hit by the impacting airplanes
2) Electrical transformers (when severed or heated up can explode. there were hundreds of transformers in the buildings)
3) underground garage had cars in them
4) cars that were on the street hit by flaming debris
5) people who jumped to their deaths from the towers (Naudet Bros film described these sounds as like they were explosions, but realized it was bodies hitting the ground).
You are putting way too much in the early news reports
Have you spoken to ANY FDNY person since 9/11/2001? I have. And they do NOT buy into any claims of explosives in the towers. They wouldn't have sent 341 of their brothers into those buildings if they did.
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