Workplace drug testing ...... a must have, page 1
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reply posted on 29-11-2009 @ 02:41 PM by TrueTruth
reply to post by radarloveguy



Supposing I smoke a joint on a Saturday night. I'm likely to test positive for upto 60 days.

Is that joint I smoke on a Saturday really a cause for me to get fired over?

People with hangovers in the morning are far more dangerous.

Consider this, too. People who drive sleep deprived are considered to be as dangerous on the road as people who drive under the influence - it was even made criminal in NJ.

Just sayin'. This proposal is pretty extreme.


reply posted on 29-11-2009 @ 02:46 PM by femmefreud
reply to post by TrueTruth



Good point.. Im with you on that, There are always different circumstances, its not always black and white..


reply posted on 29-11-2009 @ 02:51 PM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by radarloveguy



What a waste. What I do on my own time, whether illegal or not, is NONE of my employers business.

As a business owner with a staff of over 1500, I have never required this and have never had a problem. Besides the addicts are really easy to point out and easily delt with.

It's a waste of precious resources and time for both you the employee and the employer.

To think how many good employees I would have to fire for a personnal habit that doesn't effect their work.

~Keeper



reply posted on 29-11-2009 @ 02:56 PM by OpTiMuS_PrImE
reply to post by OpTiMuS_PrImE



was that toward me? if so they should be legal because in a free world which we were suppose to have to make our own decisions we would have the freedom of deciding for ourselves whether we choose to use or not, not decided by a corrupt government or by employers. Its just another freedom of right ate away by the governments of our world putting limits on the free man

so the only way for that in this crap government would be to tax and regulate since we are not really free

[edit on 29-11-2009 by OpTiMuS_PrImE]


reply posted on 29-11-2009 @ 02:59 PM by Bizmyth
This is an incredibly selfish proposal. You say you are drug free and happy and are bothered by co-workers whom you believe are on drugs? I'm going to bet that a lot of the 'zonked-out' people are actually on prescribed pills such as anti depressants and xanax. Or drunk/hungover at work. But all that is legal, isn't it.

People addicted to harmful drugs such as cocaine need HELP. They don't need to get FIRED because YOU don't want to be bothered by them. Addicts aren't necessarily criminals, and taking their jobs away won't make them suddenly stop buying drugs. If they have a job already, they are trying to do a positive thing for their life and what they should be offered is rehabilitation instead. Throwing people into the streets is not going to "put a huge dent into the drug trade, and lead to less medical issues and crime" as you naively believe. It will in fact make it worse. These now unemployed sick people turn to crime to feed their habits when their source of income is taken away.

And on the subject of marijuana, which is the one that stays in the system to be tested the longest is much less harmful than either alcohol or even cigarettes! Plenty of successful people smoke the herb recreationally and it has worked as a medicine to save peoples' lives. Are you proposing that that drug should get someone fired as well?

Not everyone can easily live drug-free. It may be easy for you to be drug-free and happy, but for many others it is a daily struggle to keep from using drugs. This doesn't mean they are bad people or unemployable.

Also, it is none of your or your employer's business what a person does in their free time. Drug testing ALL workers is an unreasonable proposal that infringes on freedom and human rights.


reply posted on 29-11-2009 @ 03:31 PM by cannibalman
reply to post by radarloveguy



Are you thick, or just not too bright?
If everyone was drug tested-YOU'D HAVE NO WORKFORCE! That would be smart aye?
Drugs are something that have already been discovered and/or invented. They are here, it's too late, put up with it. You don't have any other choice. It's a losing battle if you want to fight it, too many people (the VAST MAJORITY) use them and they will NOT give them up, they're just too damn good.

Besides, it's only non-users that 'claim' drugs impair your abilities. Watch a film called 'super high me', it's proof that drugs can do the exact opposite of what you claim.


reply posted on 29-11-2009 @ 03:35 PM by cannibalman
reply to post by Grayelf2009



Absolutely correct.
If alcohol was invented today it would be illegal. FACT!
But all these bleeding heart left-wing pc do-gooders who piss and moan about weed and acid and stuff are the people who think it's ok to drink alcohol.
Alcohol is the true drug of choice for losers.



reply posted on 29-11-2009 @ 03:39 PM by Knowledgeseeker5434
reply to post by tothetenthpower



I wish every employer was like you my friend. I never saw the problem, i never showed up to work high, not even once. And they suprise as all onr day with a drug test and so i was fired. Wheres the justice in that


reply posted on 29-11-2009 @ 03:49 PM by K-Raz
reply to post by Knowledgeseeker5434



There really is no justice in that.

Living in another country, i can't understand how you manage to put up with that. If I were to go to work under the influence, the best thing that could happen was that my colleagues sensed something amiss and asked me to go home, before the boss noticed it and fired my butt.

I sure hope the OP is a troll, 'cause i aint got much left for his type otherwise.
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