Originally posted by elevatedone


I sincerely hope that you never need the assistance of an officer.

Personally, I've never found a situation that was improved because the cops showed up. There's always the law of unintended consequences, the wrong people can wind up in jail or dead too easily.

I'm tough enough, smart enough, and wise enough to handle pretty much anything life throws at me: I've stood down gunmen, broke up bar robberries, calmed down irate bikers, and chilled too-loud parties without any assistance from cops, thank you very much.

The few times I did call them, like when my sister broke up with a guy she was dating who beat her up and threatened her kids and he showed up drunk for round 2, turned out the cops played football with him in high school and just took him home, and threatened me and my sister if we bitched about it. none of my other experiences calling cops has ever worked out any better, so I learned early on they weren't there to protect or serve Native Americans, so I protect myself and mine without their "help".

Nope wrong.

I was simply saying that calling people ignorant who have suffered at the hands of police and therefore having a valid understanding as to why in some cases it could be justified.

Please read what i say before replying, it avoids confusion.

Originally posted by elevatedone
Ah another thread filled with ignorance.

Most of you just taking another - any opportunity to bash cops, probably because you've had a ticket, or a run in with the law.

Or could be you have nothing better to do than just jump on the latest "waggon" and bash cops.



I sincerely hope that you never need the assistance of an officer.

Although I don't agree with anyone killing anyone, the cop bashing is well deserved. Every day we read more and more about police abuses, tazering of granma, the beat down and killing of protesters, generally just bad cop behavior.

True, not all cops are bad, just as every person serving in the military isn't stacking up nude prisoners for their personal enjoyment. By the same token, not all cops are good and not all military people are good. Every person accused of a crime isn't guilty any more than every police arrest is correct.

The point here, is as this is a conspiracy site, and I remember reading an artical on here where one of the signs of people having had enough would be the direct targeting of the police. Could this instance be that very sign? Perhaps, but I don't know. I have had many many bad experiences with the police, and very few good ones. I am not a criminal, nor do I really care if I get tickets, (my company pays them for me).

The police are not saints, they are humans. Far too many turn a blind eye to the injustices metered out by brother police, and far too many abuse their positions as police. The disdain you perceive here against the police is well deserved in many cases.

I hope that either way, we find out the truth. If they were corrupt and this was "get back" for something they did, you reap what you sow. If they were targeted only because they were police, then this may indeed a sign of people having had enough. If it was a gang initiation, then I hope justice, true justice is served. But for now, I'll reserve my opinion on how great these four were until I hear the rest....If I hear the rest.

..Ex

The only thing that seems certain is that these 4 were targeted.The rest is the usual ATS speculation before the facts become available.Please wait for more details before passing judgements.

Originally posted by mr-lizard
Nope wrong.

I was simply saying that calling people ignorant who have suffered at the hands of police and therefore having a valid understanding as to why in some cases it could be justified.

Please read what i say before replying, it avoids confusion.

So you're saying murder can be justified, is that right? Or is it only people you don't like that applies to?

Originally posted by mr-lizard
It wasn't an attack, if anything i was defending peoples rights to an opinion.

I'm glad you were defending Elevatedones right to an opinion.

Now, the subject of this thread is "4 police officers shot dead in Wash" - so how about getting back to the discussion at hand, eh?

I have had both good and bad experiences with police in the past. Most have been good. I am curious as to more details on what happened, though I have a few ideas, and don't think it was an ambush, nor an assisination. I will wait and watch for the details on this, as it should prove to be interesting, as our attention is begin drawn up there.

It'll be interesting to see how this turns out.
I wonder what exactly are the circumstances...?


on a side note, it's nice to see the usual "puppets" (fake accounts) in here posting.
Always the same huh?

Originally posted by ChrisF231
This sounds like something Los Zetas would do in Mexico. None of the employees or any other patrons were targeted.

Mark my words, until we seal off that border permanently and completely incidents like this will become common occurrences.

This thread is making my stomach ache

We are at war fighting for our constitutional rights and the police are the one's abusing it by following orders from "Gov Gone Wild" that take more it seems everyday.

This country smells of BS right now and its gonna get worse before it gets better,if at all.

The last thing we need is another "Berlin Wall" What if you want to get out...it works both ways.

And just so you all know , I hate war and any death is sad , my prayers to the families of the "Fallen One's" of the 2nd American revolution.

Originally posted by neformore

I'm glad you were defending Elevatedones right to an opinion.

Thankyou, and i'm glad you're defending mine.

Now, the subject of this thread is "4 police officers shot dead in Wash" - so how about getting back to the discussion at hand, eh?

Indeed, hence the speculation on why the cops were murdered. Where they corrupt? Where they simply in the wrong place at the right time?

Was one of them a bad apple who was targeted and the other three maybe just in the wrong place?

Did they have links to a crime family or gang? Any evidence of it being a revenge attack for a previous arrest?

An ambush to me says 'planning' so that rules out a lone nut.