The UN has shown its hand. With the support of China and Russia, although I personally think that is just rhetoric, Iran knows more sanctions, more censures, are coming.

With Israel halting settlements for 10-months (my guess is this was done AFTER Obama assured Israel the support of the UN in censuring Iran), much will be done to "secure peace" in the Middle East. Since peace in the Middle East is not conducive to the US need for more oil, more money, more war....it won't happen.

If there was peace in the Middle East, where would we be able to test out drones, perfect spying, blow things up at will....etc. Without terrorists, the US loses a ton of money and a ton of illegal policies (Homeland Security Act, etc.) all enacted under the guise of protecting the world from said terrorists.

It's time to ramp up the "Iran is evil" mantra again. The next news article will be: "Israel warns about the threat from Iran if additional nuclear enrichment plants are built...." With a quote that will go something like: "Israel is prepared to handle Iran on its own if it does not have the support of the U.S..." I made all of that up, but it's probably pretty close to what's next.

Many have been saying that Israel and Iran will commence fighting around the end of December....this seems to be in support of that theory.

And the war drums continue to beat steadily....

We, the US don't want Iran to have The Bomb because they will use it to take over the world. Oil or not, perhaps we should nuke them all to hell Now. Forget sanctions. They do not work.

Thats what the Old USA would do.. the USA that stood for the USA an not a new world order. Now, we will not nuke Iran back to hell because it's not politically correct! If navy Seals cant even punch a known terrorist in the face for his murders, then how are we going to defend this country when Iran decides to send a nuke our way?..

Obama has already said he wants this nation defenseless. I think he plans to let Iran Nuke us in exchange for Iran and China taking over the USA thinking they will set him up as dictator to rule in their stead. - as crazy as that sounds.. I never thought I'd ever see a US president and congress sell us out to socialism! Anything can happen in today's crazy world!

Heck, I say we Nuke the UN in New York first - get those traitors off our soil, then nuke Iran.


[edit on 29-11-2009 by JohnPhoenix]

Well...I think the we (US) should stay out of this. If I were Israel however I would nuke Iran already. It seems obvious Iran is hellbent on destroying Israel.

I am not talking about destroying all of Iran but I would definitely destroy as much of there Nuke capability as I could and probably take out all of their Air Force and Naval Assets as I could. I would use nukes to make it short and ensure destruction on a scale that would take a century or more to rebuild.

Again its none of my or our (US) business but If I were Israel there is no way I would let Iran have nukes if I had a way to stop it.

The world could do nothing to Israel other than condemn them perhaps force the current leadership out of office. If I were an Israeli PM I would sacrifice my self to the greater good of the Nation.

On the other side of the coin If I were Iran I would make nukes to counter and further my foreign policy objectives.

Whatever the reasons for this happening, it is a VERY dangerous and REAL situation that is going on. Im pleased that Gordon Brown isnt that puppy to Barack like Tony was to George.

Of course this could all be propoganda to make the west think that Iran intend to do more than what they are actually capable of. I don't know how much of a bluff they could be trying to pull!

WOW! Look at all the armchair pussy Generals talking about nuking this and nuking that.

Seriously, do any of you even realise just how lame and childish talking about nuking anything really is?

IS Iran a threat to the USA, with all it's nuclear weapons and the most technoligical army on the planet? Is Iran a threat to Europe, or to anyone else for that matter?
Ok, Israel gets it's panties in a twist, but they do with just about anyone who doesn't bow down to them.

It's the ones that already have nuclear weapons that are the danger to us all.

Originally posted by Britguy
WOW! Look at all the armchair pussy Generals talking about nuking this and nuking that.

Seriously, do any of you even realise just how lame and childish talking about nuking anything really is?

IS Iran a threat to the USA, with all it's nuclear weapons and the most technoligical army on the planet? Is Iran a threat to Europe, or to anyone else for that matter?
Ok, Israel gets it's panties in a twist, but they do with just about anyone who doesn't bow down to them.

It's the ones that already have nuclear weapons that are the danger to us all.

You are so wrong. The ones that already have the nukes are not resigned to use them. Iran on the other hand has indicated in the past many times that they would use nukes as an offensive weapon. In their world view it is a god given mandate that they take over the world because the world is theirs to take. No other country thinks this way. Go study world history.

Hey Pal, disagreeing with someone is one thing but before you call someone names you better be prepared to come out from behind that computer and back it up. - now whose an armchair General? That language is not appropriate on ATS.

Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
You are so wrong. The ones that already have the nukes are not resigned to use them.

Right, right... and Hiroshima was just an accident... right...

Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
Iran on the other hand has indicated in the past many times that they would use nukes as an offensive weapon. In their world view it is a god given mandate that they take over the world because the world is theirs to take. No other country thinks this way. Go study world history.

You make tons of claims with no sources. As far as I recall, and I've been following this pretty closely (since I need Israel to attack Iran, badly!), Iran has never said anything about "nuking" anyone.

Your American redneck nonsense has gone overboard. I don't think I'll be visiting New Orleans.

[edit on 29-11-2009 by MegaCurious]