reply to post by network dude
Are the Masons really a civic group? If that was the case then all could join? But do Masons not select who can join with the black ball and all
Extreme example but would you call the KKK a civic group? If you were a black man in court would you want a KKK judge? Extreme as I said but there
are parallel references. No offence of linking is intended at all, just wanted to draw reference that it is about point of view.
By restricting membership you restrict the group makeup and as such the group is not representative of the wider populas and as such does not cover
all of society. As such a position of public office responsible for the wider group could be compromised by membership of any said group. Fair
statement I think as human nature is flawed, could a judge pass ruling on a family member? No.
You are correct alot of our political representatives do come from such "groups" and that could be used to explain some of the problems we have in
the world. The only point I am trying to make is that fairness and justice be paramount, a person taking such a role should follow that. With flawed
human nature which cannot be argued, membership of such groups can be open to abuse and that really does go on wholesale. Just saying that being a
member of a group won't make a difference is not good enough to those which are not members. You would feel the same if the shoe was on the other
foot I am sure, if not where would you draw the line? How far down that path away from justice and fairness for all would you wander?
Should political figures have outside business interests? No I don't agree with that either as again it is open to abuse and has been proven time
Just fighting for openess, fairness and justice for all. I am not interested in Masonic secrets whatever they may be if they even exist at all. Nor
do I think Mason's work toward a one world government, quite the opposite actually maybe an elite dictatorship but not a single world governement
unless you are going to slaughter anyone with a difference be political, religion, colour or just does not make the membership grade etc.
It is not an attack on Mason's, so I don't get all the hate some of which is offensive and aggressive in nature?!? I could have slapped the alert
button many times in this thread. Totally unwarranted and actually paints some of you guys in an even worse light based on wider perception of what
Masonry is all about which is a shame. They complain about being picked on then give solid gold examples of why with offensive and elitest comments
which do not contribute to an open an honest debate. I am actually defending what alot claim to fight for, so I can't see the logic.
Look around, are you 100% happy with government, justice and everything going on in the world? You can't eat an elephant in one bite, you have to
take slices. Membership to groups and positions of authority don't sit well together, I understand you need some groups (political parties) for a
political democratic process but membership is not restricted in theory and those group members can be removed by the populas so it's not the same by
any stretch of the imagination.
Edit: I just flagged the thread, we might be on the brink of a common sense breakthrough, hopefully!
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