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posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 12:55 AM
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They all can not be trusted. History, ancient & and recent, proves that there are no certainties about anything...gods, Annunaki theory, Nibru, Jewish savior stories, Bible stories, new age religions, ancient myths, Cthulhu Cult, chossen people 'stuff'...you name it.

IMHO, the best we could do is ditch all this religious crap. For there is SO much BS within them that none can be trusted nor followed.

***We need to meditate till we reach our own enlightnment and in doing so reach a true form of godhood...no dogma.***

files.abovetopsecret.com...




posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 01:14 AM
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Any religion is just a suggested way to attain wisdom. Most practitioners of religion on this planet have forgotten that; they're more interested in considering themselves right, rather than becoming appreciably wiser. I agree with you, all religions of Earth are tragically unworkable means to any significant ends.

P.S. What is your avatar picture?



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 01:19 AM
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I am no fan or organized religion and share some of your views. However, there is some good that can come about when communities come together to pray. There are few, if any, activities that can bring communities together like prayer can.

You can never eliminate organized religions. Perhaps you can suggest reforms which will enable organized relions and their members to retain the benefits of organized religion, while filtering out the nastiness.



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 01:26 AM
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I agree with OP. Live how you want but my rule is follow the golden rule. It works well.
One question though, is the Cthulhu Cult real? If so send links or cast a spell to prove. I want to join!

organized religions are always better with Cthulhu!

[edit on 29-11-2009 by badmoviefan]



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 01:33 AM
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Yes, the Cult of Cthulhu is now a real, tax-exempt, religion!

Here is link: www.cultofcthulhu.net...



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 01:39 AM
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Right on. Religion is the single largest factor in holding humanity back. It's dying there is no doubt, but it's a slow death unfortunately.



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 01:51 AM
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Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
I am no fan or organized religion and share some of your views. However, there is some good that can come about when communities come together to pray. There are few, if any, activities that can bring communities together like prayer can.

You can never eliminate organized religions. Perhaps you can suggest reforms which will enable organized relions and their members to retain the benefits of organized religion, while filtering out the nastiness.



Amen to this thought. I have believed for many years that some respected leader of some South Pacific Ocean island could teach the rest of the worlds leaders to actually be peaceful and to consider all people's concerns, and to get along. I believe all of us need a designated "happy person", working along with a shaman and a chief, to direct us all. Let the children play, okay?



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 02:10 AM
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I became a Deist 30 years ago and have fun all the time with religious idiots.
www.deism.com...

Before that i was a unhappy Mormon till i was excommunicated.(for something i did not do by the way)

As a Deist i became a nudist and have the freedom to believe in what i chose and as a deist i have the right to my religious beliefs.
This includes the right to use the court system to protect my rights from religious bigots of other religions.

I some states like Texas being a deist can be loads of fun.
there are a large group of baptist in texas that don't like people with beards.
Why i do not know but when i lived there i would hear about them and there dislike for my beard.
I just told the friends that told me about what these people were saying to tell them it was part of my deist religion.
I even went a picket line in front of a school that tried to punish a male native american student because he had long hair that was part of his religion.( The student won in federal court by the way)The baptist and other religious groups are starting to learn they can not dictate other religious views.

www.moderndeism.com...



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 02:15 AM
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Thank you! I will now spend hours checking this out! S&F for you my friend.



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 02:34 AM
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Organized religion sucks! Long live disorganized religion!
In Discordia nobody can tell you what you have to beleive.
Everybody can, because every man, woman, child, plant, and beast -on the planet, and in some cases off the planet- has the highest religious authority in the Discordian Church.

The Discordian religion is the largest religion in the world, with the most followers. Even people who actively resent Discordianism, are thus only honoring the most profound teachings of Eris.
I should know, as I am a Discordian Pope! And so are you!

As a Discordian Pope you have the right to be treated with the proper respect as dictated by the high position you hold. And you have the ability to excommunicate, de-ex-communicate, re-ex-communicate, and de-re-ex-communicate (no backsies!) both his-/her-/it-/them-/your-/our-/His-/Her-/It-/Them-/Your-/Our-self/selves and others (if any).
And the right to invoke infallibility at any time, including retroactively.
You may baptise, bury, and marry (with the permission of the deceased in the latter two cases), and if you like completely rework the Erisian church.
Of course you may also perform all rites and functions deemed inappropriate for a Pope of Discordia.

For more information on your wonderful disorganized religion visit Principiadiscordia and any encyclopedia entries. Or just make your own website based on anything that pops into your honorable papal mind!

HAIL ERIS! ALL HAIL DISCORDIA!


Edit: infallibility invoked!

[edit on 2009.11.29 by Carlthulhu]



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by ANNED
I became a Deist 30 years ago and have fun all the time with religious idiots.
www.deism.com...

Before that i was a unhappy Mormon till i was excommunicated.(for something i did not do by the way)

As a Deist i became a nudist and have the freedom to believe in what i chose and as a deist i have the right to my religious beliefs.
This includes the right to use the court system to protect my rights from religious bigots of other religions.

I some states like Texas being a deist can be loads of fun.
there are a large group of baptist in texas that don't like people with beards.
Why i do not know but when i lived there i would hear about them and there dislike for my beard.
I just told the friends that told me about what these people were saying to tell them it was part of my deist religion.
I even went a picket line in front of a school that tried to punish a male native american student because he had long hair that was part of his religion.( The student won in federal court by the way)The baptist and other religious groups are starting to learn they can not dictate other religious views.

www.moderndeism.com...


Why would baptist, in Texas, not like people with beards???



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by ANNED
www.moderndeism.com...


Thanks for that! Unbeknownst to me, I have followed Deistic principles for most of my life. Your post has inspired me to form the Discordian sect of Desim!
Interested applicants shall fill out the standard Discordian application (found in the Principia), then simply declare themselves members.
You are free to assign yourselves special titles, and distribute Discordian sainthood, as is common practice.

...so spaketh ye Honorable Pope Carlthulhu Ignaz Ezekyl Fenderson III, Prime Defender of the Sacred Shovel



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by Hemlocks
They all can not be trusted. History, ancient & and recent, proves that there are no certainties about anything...gods, Annunaki theory, Nibru, Jewish savior stories, Bible stories, new age religions, ancient myths, Cthulhu Cult, chossen people 'stuff'...you name it.

IMHO, the best we could do is ditch all this religious crap. For there is SO much BS within them that none can be trusted nor followed.

***We need to meditate till we reach our own enlightnment and in doing so reach a true form of godhood...no dogma.***

files.abovetopsecret.com...

Always a bit difficult screwing when you're being screwed!
However, there may well be a genetic componant that fused in-group thinking into religion, at least evolutionary speaking. If this is true (which I think it is - we're wired for faith) any alternative to religion is likely to become the new religion.
The allegedly "evil" post-modern academics are actually proving this. I heard of somebody doing her doctorate on Dawkins, and apart from being anti-fundamentalist a lot of the "God Delusion" book is based on assumptions akin to faith.
I think, whatever stream we follow we should never abandon the search for truth - it's a journey, and not a destination in our lifetimes. Also, having the two alternate streams of science (evolution vs. creationism)simultaneously may lead to fruitful discoveries.



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 06:42 PM
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Individual spirituality is far preferable to religion. Religion is just the blind leading the blind, the Shepard leads his blind flock right off a cliff.

Everyone has their own specific perceived version of the truth anyway, except perhaps for the blind believers who accept whatever they are told.

Time to do away with organized religion, it's too long been a tool of tyranny and control.



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 06:58 PM
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I once saw this cartoon in MAD Magazine, where a guy tells his buddy, "I'm so sick of organized religion and their commercialism". He then goes into a New Age shop and buys 2 CDs, incense and tarot cards!
I think there's some truth to that. "Organized religion" is a relative concept displaced on the other. Most people, whether they admit it or not, are involved in "organized religion".

[edit on 29-11-2009 by halfoldman]



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 07:11 PM
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You all are definitely inviting a Fatwa being issued on You.



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 07:36 PM
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[edit on 29-11-2009 by Donny 4 million]



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by Hemlocks
They all can not be trusted. History, ancient & and recent, proves that there are no certainties about anything...gods, Annunaki theory, Nibru, Jewish savior stories, Bible stories, new age religions, ancient myths, Cthulhu Cult, chossen people 'stuff'...you name it.

IMHO, the best we could do is ditch all this religious crap. For there is SO much BS within them that none can be trusted nor followed.

***We need to meditate till we reach our own enlightnment and in doing so reach a true form of godhood...no dogma.***

files.abovetopsecret.com...

Seems to me you are on a stump at midnight trying to organize SOMETHING.



posted on Nov, 29 2009 @ 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by Hemlocks
Originally posted by ANNED


Why would baptist, in Texas, not like people with beards???


The only reason i could think of is i was from Calif and they thought i was some kind of hippy. i am not a hippy or any other type liberal Californian, or any other type new age weirdo.


I finely started telling them i was from Nevada that helped.(yes i have lived there to)


[edit on 29-11-2009 by ANNED]

[edit on 29-11-2009 by ANNED]



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