YOU HAVE 30 MINUTES TO PACK UP! What do you pack? (this is an emergency scenario), page 2
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reply posted on 28-11-2009 @ 05:15 AM by foxhoundone
reply to post by angelx666


You do realize angel probably being one of the few females there would be another in-house lottery, With you as the main prize ?? ... LOL.
Then i would have to pack my cookery recipes and my Sharp cooking knives and my recipe for Potcheen (with honey), plus some Old spice aftershave, And not to forget the wife, A good buy letter... LOL..




reply posted on 28-11-2009 @ 05:24 AM by TrueTruth
Hi all.


I thought people might like this guy's blog. He's an ex-pat living in Argentina, which as you likely know, suffered an economic collapse in the early 90's, and thrust the population from a high standard of living, into, well a survival mode.

When people discuss survival, the topic often focuses on extreme scenarios that involve a man with a pack and a gun. For the vast majority of us, that' not only unfeasible, but unlikely. More likely, and also dangerous, is just getting by where you live, when TSHTF. Sure, I have a bug-out kit, but I also have advanced arthritis in my knees, degeneration in my back, 3 dogs (one of whom is blind). I live very near to my family - my parents, my sister and her kids... no, I have no plan of running anywhere. I don't see that happening unless we find out a nuke is on the way (i store sodium iodide for that scenario).

I think that outside of these extreme scenarios - which will likely not go well for any of us - the thing that will give us the best chance, is to get to know our neighbors. I live in a safe, medium sized town, and I think I don't want to be anywhere else. As you'll read in the blog below, the cities become very dangerous, but so does the country. A middle ground gives you your best shot of making it, and staying sane.

That said, yes, he does discuss kits, and gear, and a whole lot more.


This blog is comprehensive, and constantly updated.

I hope you like it as much as I do, and find something useful in it.

ferfal.blogspot.com...


"Surviving in Argentina" -

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reply posted on 28-11-2009 @ 05:33 AM by foxhoundone
reply to post by TrueTruth


Hi TT, I have read his blog before and did not realize it was regularly updated (star for ya), And have practised his skills in peacetime scenarios ready for WTSHTF, I have amassed some items for bartering/trading and preselected items for home security (cant take them yet i would get jailed LOL) .. So well recommended for any serious survival citizens...




reply posted on 28-11-2009 @ 06:12 AM by spy66
30 min is not a lot of time to do all that much. The first thing i would do is to try and get some information on what the heck is happening.

Why do i only have 30 min!

If i have to move to a different location. I would have to know if that location is safe to be at in 30 min. And after. So information is a must.

The next problem that i have to think about is. What is happening around me. Do i have time to prepare. Or do i have to get going because of traffic or other types of chaos.
Where i live there is not that many roads that lead away from the city. And you dont really get that far in 30 min if there is traffic. I might even have to bug of on my bike. How far can you travel on your bike in 30 min. Would it be far enough?

I always know where i keep my gear. But the first and only thing i would grab if i have to leave very very fast is my sleeping bag. It is light and easy to carry. As i said 30 min is not much time to get prepared. Not if you have to be far away from you current location.



What about family!

If they also know that we have 30 min. Its not going to be hard to prepare them. But our problem will be speed. Especially if we can't use the car as transportation. So again me and my wife have to make sacrificing choices on what to bring.

Our goal is safety. But we have only 30 min. What if i my kids are not at home?
I would call them if it is possible. In times like this the lines might be shut down because of the chaos or maybe for other reasons.

I would grab their sleeping bags and put them in my backpack. My wife would get food and water for a day or two if possible. Then we would have to leave. I would pray to God that my kids are either with us or at the location they have told us that they would be.


reply posted on 28-11-2009 @ 07:47 PM by ImaginaryReality1984
reply to post by Wilt456



So the government are going to supply me with everything i need? In that case i pack my guitar and that's about it. If they are going to give me food, shelter, fresh air, water, heat and all of the other things i need to survive then i don't see what i need to take with me. Ok i could take a book but i'm sure they've made provisions for such things as knowledge would be a key thing to store. So my guitar to keep me and others entertained, maybe the harmonica as well as it takes up minimal space.


reply posted on 29-11-2009 @ 09:13 AM by The Utopian Penguin
reply to post by havok



This forum is called survival techniques.
Not exploration into what stuff you take in a "imaginary" scenario.

This thread belongs in the psychology forum.
It is a post in my thread "thread".

There will not be a lottery.
There is no lottery provisions in any preparedness plan.

If there is a a major meteor strike,like the "hypothesis" that one killed the dinosaurs,you will know well in advance of 30 mins, or not at all.

This scenario is flawed.

I wish ATS had a main survival forum with sub forums.
So that these "poo" threads could be composted and contained in the imaginary scenario forum.




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reply posted on 29-11-2009 @ 04:50 PM by lilwolf
Originally posted by Wilt456
THIS IS A FICTIONAL SCENARIO: Okay. So a meteor is going to hit earth in approximately 48 hours. The meteor is about the size of the one that wipe out the dinosaurs. The governments of the world has just announced this. Each of them has built a huge underground bunker that will house a select number of their populations. After several years, when things on the surface recover (assuming that they do), these survivors will rebuild civilization and re populate the globe. When the announcement of the coming disaster is made, an announcement about a lottery program is made as well. Each person has a chance to survive in the bunkers. If you are chosen, you will receive a phone call or email notifying you.

Well, you just got the notification. You have 30 minutes to pack up one large suitcase and one small backpack before the helicopter comes to get you. You will not need to bring food or water because they will be supplied at the bunker. So, the question here is, what would you bring (pack)? Will you bring family photos? Your jewelry? Your ipod? The choice is yours-but remember that what you pack might be the only one of its kind to survive the disaster.

For me, I would bring several sets of clothes, my ipod, my favorite books (Harry Potter, Alas Babylon, Tom Sawyer, ect.), digital camera, batteries, precious family memorabilia, and my laptop.




for us it is easy... we already have the shelter built so moving things is not an issue.... we have the trailer and the vehicles all loaded (even right now) and we are out of the city in a matter of 2 hours and in the safest place we can be...
see ya in about 10 years or so when alot of the crap has floated back down....
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