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"Liberals" the New Hate Group

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posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 08:43 PM
reply to post by m khan

I enjoyed the thread. Thanks for posting it. I am 62 and was born and raised liberal. After voting for Clinton I joined a conservative church and found myself the only Democrat there. I ended up voting for Bush because I just got worn out trying to defend Clinton, who imho only became President because he was a CIA asset. I didn't want to vote for the party that killed Kennedy but followed along and voted for Bush in 2000 because of abortion. But the whole thing was a sham. except that Clinton was CIA and that the Bushes were in on the JFK thing. The whole political system has been hijacked. Both parties are equally culpable because they are one organization,the global-agenda-depopulation party controls both Republican and Democrat organizations. There are still some good individuals in each, Sarah Palin is amazing, but she must have had to go along with the globalists to get as far as she did.

I wouldn't get into details on the rest of your theories because the truth is, I don't know nor have any evidence for exactly what happened.

I DO believe that the Bush would have knowledge and involvement in the Death of what I would consider the LAST true President of the USA

But that the whole political system is hijacked... Yeah...

I am disappointed...

Yeah i thought most Liberals, real Liberals were the more intellectual of the 2 sides

I really thought that soon enough after this election they would not fall for the same trick Bush and the Neo Cons played on The Conservatives

but obviously by the FEVERISH volley of defenses against Daring to say Liberal isn't Liberal at all anymore...

Obviously they aren't as Intellectual as I gave them credit for being.

I'd think after 2 rounds of bush they would recognize I am not assaulting LIBERAL VALUES but rather going along MILITANTLY under a label that has nothing to do with being "Liberal" and supporting what is obviously continued Global Agendas and the dismantling of America and the Constitution.

We should have burned the place down when Kennedy was killed... demanded answers then...

It might be too late already now.

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 08:48 PM
The OP may be onto something. . Perhaps "conservatives" are happier people.

Some of the happiest people I know are the least informed, shopping at Wal-Mart, fast food five times a week and American Idolatry on the tee-vee. .

There is truth to the saying: Ignorance is Bliss.

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 08:48 PM
It's the young that need to see the truth, that they are being duped by these labels...

Once your older like me and you and you have a family they got you by the short and curlys, not much i could do about it beyond spout on a forum, not when they can get at your kids even just by locking you away...

Basically once you have kids your Impotent against such things... not unless it gets so bad you have no choice

And this is the worst Tyranny has ever been...

because they have gotten smarter...

The methods of control are much ore subtle...

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 09:00 PM
The point of the system is..
You look right-You look left.
There is going to be a ball-peen between your eyes.
We have a choice- make it count.

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 09:03 PM

Originally posted by clay2 baraka
The OP may be onto something. . Perhaps "conservatives" are happier people.

Some of the happiest people I know are the least informed, shopping at Wal-Mart, fast food five times a week and American Idolatry on the tee-vee. .

There is truth to the saying: Ignorance is Bliss.

Most of them work for the money to pay for that fast food and those TVs.

The liberals are supported by the largest blocks of voters that are supported by government subsidies such as welfare and social security.

Are the people who pay for that stuff with a government handout as happy as the ones who earned their own money?

You can be elitist and look down your nose at them but more conservative voters are paying their own way than liberal voters.

Maybe that's why they are happier.

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 09:06 PM
reply to post by clay2 baraka


Yeah... Now i'll get bashed by the other side...

But yeah... there is a spectrum to everything, some conservatives do enjoy shopping and eating the Phylate mangled food and cheap Chinese products that break as their appliances...

Used intelligently Conservatism is the best way to a decent, healthy life imho...

But sure, half of all people are the stupid half so sure... that ruination is out there...

But here's the thing

Remember Idiocracy?

Those people inherit the Earth, look at the begging of that movie, the liberal intellectual couple vs Cletus...

In the end make fun all you want Cletus...had a Life, Cletus got Screw women, have children drink Beer, and his kids went on to inhabit a shabby planet...

But as I see it... Life is what you make of it...

I'd rather be That guy living on half trashed planet baiting to porn and shooting things with my kids lol

Then the guy with the nervous mean pinched faced wife that never had kids and worked away his whole life for the man...who also went extinct btw before all was said and done...

A MAJOR issue I have...

Is them telling US not to reproduce... and enjoy our lives and work NIGHT and DAY and GIVEAWAY our money and food...

To help others who... are basically 3 world hill billys having a Million kids, not doing any of these things...

So I DIE YOUNG... Don't have kids or a life and work all the tie...

and Shaka Zulu and his 14 children get to inherit the Earth...

It might sound trashy but...

I'm going Baby for Baby with the third world and I'd rather actually fight it out for the space if that need would ever come...

Rather than die so that others can do....what I'm too Intellectual and Proper to do because I'm Western...


And yeah...

I know on a Level that's just awful

But I also know what the results will be if I go the route of the nice Liberal couple on the sofa at the begging of that movie...

I wouldn't hang out with them and enjoy my life even if I was willing...bland, boring, lame over worked overstressed...


Given a choice.... Trailer and 14 kids is the better life in my eyes...

I'll trade food stamps for beer lol... it beats the crap out of 16 hr work days and no kids and no fun

What meaning is there to "things" and "status" over an actual full life?

Who actually wins?

As they say... you can't take it with you


You can carry on through your kids...

I'd maintain if I don't walk that route (and thanks to the internet i can afford a decent life too) But if I don't... and others don't

In 100 years America will be a Memory and we will be part of China or India or some African Union

I'm not living like a slave on a some Gaia theory save the world spend all our money don't have children program...

When the other guys aren't doing the same...

Why should my gene pool die off so others can breed away and eat our free food to do it while I work so They can have babies?

No Way

I'd rather be Cletus

It might sound stupid... maybe on a level it is, but i'd rather be Cletus and enjoy my life, there is allot to be said for Not Giving a Flip

(I honestly think technology will solve all our problems anyway and all this stuff is simple junk to be honest with you, people have thought we were out of space and food 100 x in human history and we find ways... there's a whole Universe out there last I looked... I think the eco stuff is more control agenda frankly...yet another reason to attend FU University as I see it)

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 09:12 PM

Originally posted by mopusvindictus

Take Obama, the MAN IS A CONSERVATIVE, he supports liberal ideals, combined the liberal votes, gay, Black and Other into a win... he offers health care and slams against the rich.

But in practice he's a Conservative, he doesn't even give out presents on xmas... he's tight, pinchy, relatively healthy, hard working.

If he wasn't he couldn't be successful...

Even though I agree with some of what you say you are wrong in many ways.

Are you claiming that Liberals, Progressive Democrats, and Socialists are not successful?.....

There are MILLIONS of Liberals, Progressive Democrats, Democrats, Socialists, and even Communists who are "successful" and are rich.

At the end these ideologies give power to those who are in control of the STATE which is why they are successful, and rich meanwhile the rest of the nations are poor, and suffer.

The Elitists who are part of these groups feed off the "feel good" fantasy fairy tales that the rest of the Liberals, Progressive Democrats, Socialists, etc believe in.

The elites think that they know what is best for everyone else, they don't become ascetics, and hermits, but instead become rich, and powerful because people are too naive and gullible and belive in the same old lies that have subjugated, enslaved, and murdered millions in the past.

We have had MANY threads that show the real goals of the "leaders" of Socialism, Progressive Democrats, Liberals, etc.

We have had threads about the interviews with the FBI agent that infiltrated the "Weather Underground movement" and how they even argued for the need to murder Americans in the future who are too Capitalistic, and who don't want to submit to the idealism of Socialism/Liberalims...

They discussed how they were going to murder 25 million Americans as an example to the rest...

These are the same tactics used by one of the Liberal's idols Che Guevara...

If you knew about the real stories about how Che Guevara was catro's main executioner, and how he lvoed to murder people who didn't want to subjugate to their ideals these are the same sort of people who are part of the Socialist elites who control the world, and have taken control of the Republic.

Of course they ahve to thread lightly because there are still millions of Americans armed, but they keep trying to subjugate the U.S. to UN law which includes the banning of weapons to all civilians just so people can't fight back.

This is the same thing that occurred in nations like Cuba, China, Russia, Vietnam, etc, etc.

It is the same old, same old tactics and most people are ignorant about the past and keep believing the same old lies. Even people from developed countries have fallen to this indoctrination and to these same old lies, and empty promises.

Obama, and the entire Obama administration are insiders from these groups that are SOCIALIZING and destroying the Republic...

Obama, and his entire administration ARE NOT CONSERVATIVES....They are what is now called "Progressive Democrats" or the new Socialists/Communists.

[edit on 28-11-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 09:13 PM
reply to post by badgerprints

We all know half of Liberals are system grubbing welfare suckers

And Half of Conservatives are Fat Walmart shopping Rush Limbos

Thread wasn't actually about the lower half of Intellect out there...

I just think... brains + a simpler, less excessive life is where it's at, less self pleasure, less need for status, more devotion to family and health and work... is a more successful philosophy that I learned...the HARDWAY

What those in the IQ bellow 100 sect do...

Well, i'm not sure it's good whatever label they wear.

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 09:39 PM
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

That was really very insightful and good information...

And I agree, the convo has drifted way into economics where my actual thought on the subject revolves more around health, lifestyle family marriage in terms of success in Life... not Juts Money

Obviously Bill and Hillary do allot better than I

They just have a family that is... weird, they'd actually dare i say it despite all my ranting... be better off divorced given Hillarys apparent like of Girls and Bills lust for...anything that moves...

I do see and yes it's a generalization

That comparison between Palins Family and Hillarys as Very, very typical of the ...lets not even say be nice...the Modern Family with one emaciated odd daughter a Fat whore of a Husband and a Bitter mean spirited wife...

Vs Palin... with 5 kids and she looks great and her husbands a stud compared to Bill and all...

call it modern vs Traditional

to be fair...

But I know which family i'd rather be in or if I had to switch places which life i';d rather have...

It's ain't Bill and Hillary

But all that aside, that was some fantastic reference in regards to what is going on in America

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 09:45 PM
reply to post by mopusvindictus

Well I'm not mensa but this is an observation I've made as I read this thread.

You claim happiness in the simple life and in the next breath insult a woman on her hair style. I'm only guessing here but most truly happy and self actualized folks I know don't feel the need to prove themselves with insults or snarky demeaning comments.
To me you still sound very angry and not really all that happy.
I hope that this is just transient stress mopusvindictus and not chronic.

Or perhaps a few to many Merlots......

I'm just a U2U away if you ever feel the need to "lay your burden down"
as it were.

[edit on 28-11-2009 by whaaa]

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 09:46 PM

Originally posted by mopusvindictus

Liberalism has become Dogmatic, inflexible, abusive to others... (which you certainly are being) incapable of hearing another point of view...
It basically really is a reversal of Nazi philosophy in which any lifestyle no matter how corrosive or at the least not useful to society has absolute Voice and Tradition has none...
NO, it's totally not... I'd say as a human being I am actually Liberal, I have an open mind, by LIBERALISM was Hijacked long ago!
It's not actual Liberal at all anymore, it's just blanket policies that revolve around minority issues, lifestyle gaia theory and hatred of faith

I think you are getting your terminology confused. It's conservatives that can't stand anyone living differently from themselves or practicing a different religion. They think what other people do in their homes in private somehow harms them. They think that other people getting married somehow effects the value of their own marriage. Conservatives like to spread the false idea that liberals hate faith. That's why conservatives paint atheists as the root of all evil. It's another example of their obsession with control. It's not enough that they believe in God - you have to believe in him to or you are somehow denigrating the value of their faith. They see diversity of ideas as a direct assault on themselves. That's how they defend unprovoked attacks on their opponents - they classify everything they do as "self-defense."

The republicans are currently running their party members through "purity tests" to make sure they don't diverge in any way from conservative dogma.

GOP Purity Test Gets Mixed Grades, Even From Conservatives

Conservative activists in the Republican Party are pushing a proposal to deny funding to GOP candidates who fail what is being called a purity test, a move that is being met with skepticism by some Republican commentators. The proposal, being pushed by 10 Republican National Committee members, calls for money to be withheld from candidates who disagree with more than two of 10 conservative principles.

[edit on 28-11-2009 by andrewh7]

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 09:57 PM

Originally posted by badgerprints

Originally posted by clay2 baraka
The OP may be onto something. . Perhaps "conservatives" are happier people.

Some of the happiest people I know are the least informed, shopping at Wal-Mart, fast food five times a week and American Idolatry on the tee-vee. .

There is truth to the saying: Ignorance is Bliss.

Most of them work for the money to pay for that fast food and those TVs.

The liberals are supported by the largest blocks of voters that are supported by government subsidies such as welfare and social security.

Are the people who pay for that stuff with a government handout as happy as the ones who earned their own money?

You can be elitist and look down your nose at them but more conservative voters are paying their own way than liberal voters.

Maybe that's why they are happier.

Well being a liberal, I know when I want fast food or a TV I go in the place and hold them up

I know about 60 liberal people fairly well and not one of them is on the take.
In fact in my entire life I only know 2 people who were on the take both because of back problems, one a liberal and one a conservative.

Oh wait you mentioned social security

I am sure the rural southern conservative folk who worked all their lives thumbs their nose at the social security checks they receive. I bet they burn those checks and elect out of medicare on principle alone.

Ah and it is the general conservative block that defend Elite profiteering, by opposing deregulation of the their vehicles of profits.

Punishing them for being successful...

I am out, gotta go lift a new TV and feel unhappy about it

[edit on 28-11-2009 by Janky Red]

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 10:09 PM
Dear OP,

this is the most biased, uninformed, and manipulative post I've ever wasted my time to read. If that's what you think Liberals are, you have no idea where you are or what time it is, or even how to tie your own shoes.

Sarah Palin thinks the "Real America" is located where ever people worship her. She left office and is doing this book tour for money, because it's become obvious that she has made herself a big deal, making her political decisions much more scrutinized by the MSM, and political aficionados alike and she can't deal with it because she's incompetent as a politician.

If I'm not mistaken, Didn't she use taxpayer money to remodel her house? If you love your country and have any sort of respect for the hard working american, you might see how that is WRONG AS HELL

yeah, you're absolutely awful.

good day

P.S. Christianity needs to stay out of politics.

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 10:18 PM
reply to post by badgerprints

No one is happy,
if it is given to you mom or Sam.
How can you ever be happy?
I like new car smell.
My point is..If we are completely satisfied all the time,then what's the point of even getting up in the morning?

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 10:43 PM
Maybe I'm just an idiot or maybe the OP is just over my head intellectually, but I'll be damned if I can follow your train of thought.

You seem to insult liberals almost constantly only to reverse yourself from time to time and say you're really all about waking people up to the fact that the whole thing about left vs right is a NWO sham.

Interwoven into this is the same right wing talking points their side of the media uses.....libs are govt dependent, Hillary is gay, the family is under attack, Christianity is under attack, the races are being diluted, culture is under attack, Palin is really smart, etc.

Ultimately it sounds to me as though you just hate liberal or democratic politicians. It also sounds as though you hate conservative politicians as well because they are not conservative enough or religious enough for you.

People may seem like they are so easy to categorize that half of type X belongs in this group or that, but I just don't believe it. Whatever you think of the people you see is only a reflection of your own prejudices. It's not accurate, even at Walmart. I learned this in a humbling way.

Now I have to go watch Shrek with the family.

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 11:16 PM
reply to post by whaaa

Oh come on... I apologized for that...

That was really mean but you running around saying people are mentally ill for trying to express an opinion is just as mean...

I just told them both if they wanted to play that way, I could play that way too... and felt bad about doing it if that makes any difference...

I shouldn't stoop to that level, but I do sometimes... I'm far from a perfect person.

Never claimed I was a perfect person.

I'd like to be able to smile and just ignore things like that but sometimes when hit with an F bomb you throw an F bomb back... we are imperfect creatures striving to be better...

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 11:27 PM
reply to post by whaaa

And btw... getting anger about something going on around you doesn't necessarily mean your an angry person... I explained back there if you missed why I was angry at the start of the thread and it was a challenge to someone who... won't show his face...

Sometimes anger works

The same person I riffed back at...had something very smart to say

"Being Liberal doesn't mean being passive"

I think a little righteous anger is appropriate... it feels good actually

I mean seriously,

I am pretty well into the higher consciousness movement to be honest...

But sometimes when your playing at higher consciousness and the same people keep smacking your face maybe we do need to Angry

That;s an aspect of all this PC grabage I hate, your basically not allowed to be angry, ever... eve words... it's all that's so terrible and that's not appropriate...

So we sit at our jobs being robbed, elect people who turn out to all...ALL be part of the same game against us

And it's "Inappropriate" to raise your voice about it or your a nutter if you do...

So how does it stop...if you don't scream Stop?

I mean...are you happy with all this constant litigation and corporations and govts all but buying and selling us?

I don't know that we even have a say in anything anymore...

So when do I get pissed?

When i'm living in a cubicle with two guys on bunks on top of me like a Japanese Hotel? Working for 8.50 an hr as a National socialized wage being allowed one child like China if I pay 500,000 or 15 years salary lol

Isn't it then too late?

I'm just saying like I told the poster a page back...

We screwed up, we should have gotten mad when Kennedy was shot and hit the streets then...

I think i'm long over due to get genuinely righteously angry

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 11:34 PM
reply to post by andrewh7

Just becaus MOST American Conservatives fall into the Christian bracket and you have what to say about them..doesn't mean that all conservatives are christian fundamentalists or even that going back a bit more old fashioned would have anything to do with them.

And your right many are a bit bigoted by religion

But all i'm saying is 2 wrongs don't make a right

We can't simply erase the people we don't like or demand they live another way either

Like I said earlier, what if your Islamic or Jewish or Buddhist or Hindu

All Conservative, all would hold to very similar moral guidelines...

How do we MAKE them open up to what we think is right or wrong How are we any better than the people most liberals hate if you do that?

People wont change their beliefs because the law says so when it comes to religion...

I'm not after a civil law

It's a huge...HUGE mistake for all this power to go FEDERAL as oppossed to State...

Chicago and Alaska will NEVER match up

NY and Utah will NEVER match up...

Look at the anger... it's all division...

Why should SOCIAL LAW and EDUCATION, be the same in Idaho as California? Why....

What good is that, it's loose/loose and compromise and anger

Everything from POT to Abortion to Sex should be by STATE if we wish to remain a UNION

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 11:38 PM
reply to post by piddles

Really ask yourself WHY you pick on her or anyone else does...

And stop calling names...

They are all kind of thieves... She doesn't have a trail of bodies like Clinton, she doesn't have a family involved in Coke the Cia Like Bush or family ties going back to supporting the Nazis

I have no idea if there is any truth to that story

But one thing is obvious she is a TARGET not for those reasons but because of her Religious and personal beliefs...

and LOL I don't agree with her REASONS for a conservative lifestyle...

But I SUPPORT her right and others to believe it...

posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 11:43 PM
reply to post by Janky Red

Once again,
I was responding to the assertation from another poster that happiness comes from being low end and stupid so conservatives live in an "ignorance is bliss" world.

I will make it a little more pointed, The liberals are supported by the voting blocks that pull the most "UNEARNED" government subsidies.

If you want to point a finger about what people spend therir money on, determining where that money comes from is no less important.

I think "laziness is bliss" may be just as adequate a phrase.

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