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"Liberals" the New Hate Group

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posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by Stinkhorn1
reply to post by Kaploink
 


Actually, all the studies show that conservatives are not only happier people, but more balanced, more productive and live better lives than liberals. I do not want to cite examples, but there have been at least 5 studies that all show the same thing.



That's something VALID to bring up in defense of Conservatives too...

In a Thread titled this...yeah natural uproar

But when you assign laws and dictate behavior or don't even give people the right to be free in their daily lives of behaviors that might offend them.

It's NOT Just the Christian RIGHT your affecting, NOT just the Stereotype of the American Angry Conservative...

How about other Conservative groups that might wish some privacy and freedom from "Liberal" attitudes.

Buddhist Monks for example...

Imagine you founded a small community of Buddhists

And then The Law says well... we have to bus in students from the neighboring 5 towns and you have to allow the Gay kids to freely express themselves and your not allowed to meditate during class time...

Those kids would no longer be growing up to be Buddhists would they?

When you replace Christian Conservative (which many of you Hate...very liberal btw of those of you) with Buddhist Monks who have NO track history of being jerks to anyone...

Suddenly maybe what i'm saying makes sense...

Really kind of stupid "no prayer in school" if you applied it which it would have to be to a community of meditation...

Mandated school lunches makes sense when you don't factor in Jews or Buddhists or Hindus right?

Yeah we don't YET have so many people of those groups in America...

and under the guise of what we call "Liberal" lately we NEVER will

So I simply ask...

How is any of this legislation and community control and speech control and PC and behavior MOD LIBERAL in anyway


This might be an odd statement to some...

But they have always called America

"the melting pot"

Now I think SOUP... and if I make a soup I want to taste and see individual Carrots and Peas and Meat in each spoonful, that's flavor, that's Interesting...

What they are making us do now... is a PASTE... MASHING US TOGETHER into a uniform paste with no distinct elements and raising hate against any little pea that stands out...

That's not diversity that's disgusting...




posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b

So what does that make Rush Limbaugh, or Dick Cheney?

Neither are examples of good living, that is for sure.

How did this garbage thread get on the front page of ATS?


You really need to read.. a whole thread not just the top post

Dick Cheeny was a Neo Con, he was no Conservative

Rush Limbaugh is just a Fat Idiot

That's what those 2 could be labeled respectively.

LOOK read what I have said... there is nothing Liberal about what they are doing under the Label "LIBERAL" anymore than what Bush Pulled off under the Label "Conservative"

You need to open your eyes and look at the continued loss of freedoms and controls on human behavior going into place while NOTHING has been done to correct anything pushed into Law under BUSH

There is NOTHING LIBERAL happening in this Country...it's a Farce and those that are following the banner have become YES even more Blind than the conservative were when the Neo Cons led them around under Bush



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 03:49 PM
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You said something that was interesting

"Liberal is a broad class of ideals'

So what do you think of a broad class of ideals being lifted together into a political force that ACTUALLY has done nor intends to do anything that is Liberal or pass a single Law that restores anyone's freedoms in any way?



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by joeofthemountain
What a jackass response. Here this man makes a thoughtful, insightful and personal confession and this is all you have to say?

No wonder... look at your screen name - you're one of the phonies he speaks of.

Joe of the Mountain
Ivy Leaguer, Mensan, highly paid management consultant born in a very major East Coast city (not NY thank God...)

AND BIG ENOUGH TO SAY THIS MAN HAS IT RIGHT.


Originally posted by Polynomial C
Wtf? .. After "I use him as an example, of why Liberals Hate everyone else" all i heard is Blah,Blah,Blah ..




.. Please stop it with your conservative propaganda...

.. WE DO NOT WANT TO KILL YOUR GRANDMOTHER!!!


..Also you said - "They need health care because they eat like crap, work too much and aged very badly "...

Serioslly? have you been to texas?? - Conservative and Fat...

.. -- This Thread is ridiculous..

[edit on 27-11-2009 by Polynomial C]



Thanks Man,

I've just lived both sides of the coin, I think I worked on Wall Street for the first time when I was 17...

And I see sooooo much Hate going to Country Folk and regular run of the mill conservatives , White Bread types in general Christians and the reality...

Most of them are a far cry from "Big Fat Texans" or Rush Limbaugh or Dick Cheeny

HOW?????

Can other Liberals not see when they some that walk under their banner have become this?

Blanket stereo types about MOST Americans that are false...

Derogatory comments and mass groupings of a Race a Culture a Religion...

And they DARE call themselves "LIBERAL" when they have become the thing they claim to hate so much?

I had to do the BIG quote..so mods don't take it down...

The abobe person you quoted....

Race HATE

Religion HATE

Demographic HATE

How dare this administration or it's follower claim they are "LIBERALS" or "DEMOCRATS"

Tolerance is NOT a One way street



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by Hemisphere
reply to post by mopusvindictus
 


I loved your rant. If I may, it boils down to "misery loves company" and so the liberal socialist agenda is being thrust on us all.


Yeah I made allot of comparisons in here to the Bitter "Christian Conservative" of the 80's and 90's after all the farms got sold down the river, the small business was trashed and basic values like marriage were allowed to disintigrate right along with the middle class...

I see this as a reaction to all the ideals of the 60's simply vanishing and what we have today which is borderline Totalitarian...

it's grasping at straws like... "health care" or anything else so you can say that..something CHANGED when really all the tolerance in the world hasn't helped race relations and WAR is still omnipresent and Cameras are on you where ever you go and there are no Arts and Music in schools...

It's a reaction to a giant disappointment at the hands of Govt... a Grasp for CONTROL



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by die_another_day
Americans = major hate group.

We think there's a solution to everything. We decide who lives and who dies based on our prejudices. We try to justify our actions through superficial evidence.

Those who we like lives.

Those who we hate dies.


I'd say this is fair, because if the Liberals who got PO'd at this thread have anything right it's that when in Power the Conservatives practice just as much Hate too

So yeah

I just want the side that's open minded usually to see what they are being dragged into becoming before it is too late...



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 04:05 PM
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Uhmm .. that was uh ... a different post...




I'm a pretty extreme Conservative .. A True Conservative, not a Republican ...

And I despise Palin.

And I have NO idea why you injected her into your post, which was just rambling that I could hardly make sense of.



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by AUM68
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Ha ha, what a nice post.

I can only say - dont come to Denmark - I have always thought it is funny how USA only have those 2 parties (I know its easier to control the upcomming president, but anyway
)

What you call liberal is in Denmark a conservative.

Please let me explain a little thing about the danish parties that will make you laugh.

We have a party called Venstre (translated its: Left) because when the party was founded, it was on the left side !

Then a lot of other leftwing parties through time joined, and Venstre (Left) became a right wing party.

Until this year our priminister Anders Fogh Rasmussen was leader of Venstre (Left)

Now hes is leader of Nato


Anyway, today we have 2-3 leftwing parties - 2-3 midlle paries - and 2-3 rightwing parties




I'd LOVE that

The polarity kills me...

I WOULD BE CONSIDERED LIBERAL BY MOST AMERICAN CONSERVATIVES

I repeat that from other posts because most Liberals hating on me have no idea that is the case...

I'm just defending them...from the massive ludicrous senseless attacks I see here constantly, they have every right to privacy, freedom and to not be forced upon as anyone else...

I would LOVE more than 2 parties, I think it is the ULTIMATE, absolute ULTIMATE stupidity of the USA that we break down our beliefs and causes into 2 simple philosophies...

That's WHY fakers can come in under the guise of a LABEL... and lead masses of people into hatred and destruction...

I have said Over and Over...

BUSH was not a Conservative

Obama is NOT a Liberal...

Yet both POLARIZED various sub groups in America into a take over by them who represent nothing but Globalism and Corporate Interests...under these 2 moronic banners



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 04:13 PM
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Your capacity and the capacity of others to read beyond the first few lines and get to the meat and potatoes of what I am saying is simply Amazing.

It is no wonder most of the world thinks Americans to be mentally Retarded, the capacity to read or listen beyond a paragraph barely exists...



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 04:14 PM
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It saddens me that people are so quick to divide themselves up into liberals and conservatives or whatever you want to label yourself. Especially when the people that pretend to represent their "teams" interests are only really interested in fattening their wallet. I detest labels and generalizations. They only serve to divide and conquer, to keep the hate going. I'm an American citizen and a person, not a member of a pigeon-holed group-think movement that was hijacked long ago. I have my own thoughts and opinions. I don't need them forced on me by talking heads. In the end, we're all Americans. We're all in the same boat and we better figure that out before we ALL drown.



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 04:24 PM
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You sound allot like ME

I also support the right of Gays to Marry

I also support Gun Freedoms

I also am basically Liberal but prefer, Children Marriage and the Country and have come to support a lack of such excess and yeah...lol I think it smells like a sewer in the city compared to where I live too...

What we have going on in office is not Liberal it is a complete Thrash of EVERY SINGLE THING remotely related to Family, Religion, Child Bearing and INDIVIDUALITY

It Amazes me how so many people can come in here and use the Banners LIBERAL and TOLERANT when they are actually complete clones...


Imagine that...

We both simultaneously support Gun Freedoms AND Gay Marriage...

Who would have thought lol

From some of the LIBERAL responses I guess if you have options on BOTH sides of the fence and recognize that what is being "CALLED LIBERALISM" was actually waxing way ONE SIDED that makes us people without a Country I suppose






posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by rusethorcain
Conserve what, may I ask? Human Life? The Planet? Our Earths resources?
Oh it is Money. Conserve money... Oh then yes you are a conservative.
If you are a supporter of nuclear power and want to exploit the worlds resources as quickly as possible you are not a liberal.
If you are PRO-LIFE you must also be ANTI-WAR or you LIE. You must also be against Capital Punishment or you are not actually PRO-LIFE you are pro-fetus and ANTI-WOMB-MAN and you are not a liberal
The Conservative-Republican agenda is designed to destroy the earth and bring about the end times quickly. NO? Go to the Earth Policy Institute.org website and you will find a list of the top 5 recommendations to save the planet and thus save our SPECIES. ALL OF THEM ARE DIRECTLY OPPOSITE THE REPUBLICAN GOP platform as advocated by Sarah Palin and others.
I AM GLAD TO BE A LIBERAL...some have even called me a "dirty liberal" and I answered actually -I am very clean and cleanliness is next to Godliness. But how would they know that? No way.



Well you sort of get it don't you?

Republicans at least for the last decade or so don't actually represent Conservative Values nor the people who vote for them...

All I'm saying is The Democrats are no Longer actually LIBERAL at all, what this is is some giant Farce...

As far as the Earth Policy Institute... Same sort of people were warning me about The ICE AGE when IO was in Public School...

it's a different debate,

But I disagree...

This thread is partly meant as Simple food for thought for the young...

and this is a GREAT EXAMPLE

They LEAD YOU under a title that appeals to your senses...

I"m not a racist

I'm for the Earth

I don't think people should hate...

Then come forward and run for office... and push Environmental stuff, which really, you might be liberal, but maybe not a scientist okay and they assure you that Emissions are causing global warming and anyone who says no is hurting the Earth

YET

When I was 30 years younger...

IT was the FLIPPIN ICE AGE

Every single day...we were a day away from another damned Ice Age

and it was all manipulation and bull puckets, with other agendas

This is what i'm saying, they lead you with manure, with lies, They USE you, say they are Liberal but it's really Globalist, Corporate Just like Bush and they get you riled up on these issues that in actuality have no validity of proof in science...

So the other team... the Palins are wrong and EVIL and hate the Earth and you rally... and elect people who are the last thing from Liberal

I'm not even bashing Liberals, many would call me Liberal as I have said a dozen times...

But they did the same thing to you guys Bush did to the Conservatives...

Just have to realize it



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by savagediver
After reading the OP and your other posts I have come to the conclusion you are the most unstable individual I have seen post on here. I really think if you don't seek some professional help you may end up hurting yourself or others. You should really get your anger under control before it kills you.



Well okay LOL

You know me that well from a hyped up persona on a forum huh?

See, this is why your really a very unintelligent person and I don't feel bad saying it...

You can't see past the Avatar and the Name... a week ago I had a benevolent Avatar lol and people read the first sentence of something and assume it comes from one direction and make assumptions and when I throw up the scary Cats lol they read the first PP and make a whole other sets of assumptions...

It's kind of how I can tell who is an imbecile and who actually reads what I have to say and thinks about it on a forum...

This is nothing more than a Commentary on how Liberalism is becoming just as fascist as Conservatism and smashing people left and right (or I should say UNDER THE GUISE OF LIBERALISM something wicked has evolved)

Some people...

Can't get past the title become massively insulted without reading and spew hate and insults because they Identify with a label...

I'm trying to bring out that is HOW you are led and you should drop it...
But Noooooo lol, they see Liberal and Hate in same word and GET REALLY MAD AND HATE ME BECAUSE THEY DON'T HATE ANYONE CEPT PEOPLE THEY SAY HATE OTHER PEOPLE AND IT'S OKAY TO HATE PEOPLE YOU SAY HATE...



I mean is that funny crap or what?

The there are the you's...

Who take DUMB a step lower, read nothing but know who I am and my entire psychology and really get mean and viscous and TRY to get personal and damage me because you disagree with me...

Way to spread that Liberal LOVE!!!!



And why?

Because I used Hate and LIBERAL in the same sentence...

and am I wrong?

Hasn't Liberalism become Just another ISM now...

If your really Liberal shouldn't you now as I think I am just ditch the Label now that it has been bought and sold into a political Buzz word?

The Liberal iw as growing was and still is actually RADICAL and genuine in Love...

Those like YOU... YES LIKE YOU

Have spewed nothing but Hate...

Palin HATE

Conservative HATE

Christian HATE

Republican HATE

Basically HATE for anyone who disagrees

The BEST IDIOCY... is the Environment FREAKS... yes FREAKS I said it...

Because none of them are frackin meteorologists or geologists from AL GORE down YET they are quite 100% certain The sky is melting...

and if you say...uhrm no look up it isn't it seems pretty okay to me nothing even remotely as extreme as what the earth does ALL THE TIME...

You are an EVIL PLANET HATER LOL....

YOUR KILLING GAIA!!!!!!!!

So how biased and unrealistic is Liberalism how filled with hate, it's okay to Hate people you don't agree with LOL How is Liberalism NOT simply another political bull pucket these days?

Like I said before...

The Al Gores of the world assured me... ASSURED me i'd be under 40 ft of snow by now when i was 8

I'm just GLAD I paid no attention to them



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by Exemplar
It saddens me that people are so quick to divide themselves up into liberals and conservatives or whatever you want to label yourself. Especially when the people that pretend to represent their "teams" interests are only really interested in fattening their wallet. I detest labels and generalizations. They only serve to divide and conquer, to keep the hate going. I'm an American citizen and a person, not a member of a pigeon-holed group-think movement that was hijacked long ago. I have my own thoughts and opinions. I don't need them forced on me by talking heads. In the end, we're all Americans. We're all in the same boat and we better figure that out before we ALL drown.






pigeon-holed group-think movement that was hijacked long ago.


SO NICE I HIGHLIGHTED IT TWICE!!!!!!!!!!

Yes...

THANK YOU

Hijacked LONG AGO

Obama now Having done to LIBERALS what GW did to CONSERVATIVES

LIBERALS you are NOT supporting LIBERALITY under Obama

Anymore than Conservatives were supporting Conservatism under BUSH

It's a trick... it's a lie, it's something else it's HIJACKED and you need to see it...

It's Globalism and Corporate FEUDALISM



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 05:04 PM
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Wow, another stereo-typing hate thread against the liberals...

Is it the 10th or 100th this month?

Are all liberals the same? Are all conservatives the same?

Do you know there are conservative liberals, moderate liberals, socialist liberals, communist liberals, etc? Do you know there are liberal conservatives, moderate conservatives, religious conservatives and even far-right neo nazis?

Why blanket everyone under a system when it is impossible to do? What purpose does it serve? Even when bush was president he didn't take that much heat but I guess now that we have a black, liberal president its time for the ignorant racists to show up and tout their balogni.



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
Uhmm .. that was uh ... a different post...




I'm a pretty extreme Conservative .. A True Conservative, not a Republican ...

And I despise Palin.

And I have NO idea why you injected her into your post, which was just rambling that I could hardly make sense of.


Palin was injected ONLY because of the rampant hate that is given daily to her in these forums

For no reason...

I don't think she should be president really although I think she would be better than Obama

I don't have anyone I see as worthy anymore actually

But what I see is Hate directed at her because she has Religion and Family and represents...slightly at least a way of life for some reason Despised by people who.... have very blank lives very lonely lives, very stressful lives by comparison

It's less political that I brought her in and more Lifestyle

Many...not all, but many of the people I see ragging her are... childless, or one child types living mod lives, career driven, apt dwelling city types...

she is a freak for hunting... in a state that has more Moose than Human beings

She is a menace for wanting to drill OIL when you could spend a Lifetime in Alaska hiking and never actually cross one of the drills without luck it is so vast

On and on...

So Liberal and conservative doesn't apply to Why I brought her in...

JUst a reflection on certain people that say they are Tolerant or Liberal that... can't even COMPREHEND the State of Alaska or who she is... r how other people live...

I know people who... Have better comprehension and empathy of the cultural norms of the Taliban than the cultural norms of Alaska and it's pathetic in my eyes

And I have heard this...after 911 I walked by an Afghani restaurant and hear people explain how... "we need to better understand these people" who perform clitoral circumcisions lol, but they don't want to see the POV of an Alaskan in regards to gun control?



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 05:18 PM
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Pttttttthhhhh

For starters your making assumptions on race...

I'd RATHER have a Black President then a Mulatto

Why?

Because we all are a bit Racist to what we are as BEST, well not all...it's never all but most...

Obamas dream of multiculturalism is a dream NOT like MLK of a strong BLACK community but rather a dream where we all become one race IMHO because in the end that is what HE IS and thinks is BEST

I see him as very destructive for the African American community actually
I support the right to be Black Just as much as I support the right to be Christian Conservative or Jewish...



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 05:23 PM
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And uh...yeah I know and if you Read through you'd know I KNOW there are 9 different "parties" under the label conservative and ditto for Democrat

And part of what I am really asking is why we are all IDIOTS and all of us Gay, Black, Hippie whatever band together and support ONE party under the Term Liberal Democratic when really...REALLY he is a Socialist and the same goes for the Conservatives and the whole Neo Con thing?

So many parties from Socialist to Libertarian and we label it and vote for people who simply don't represent us...

A main point here is...

THIS IS SIMPLY NOT A LIBERAL GOVT so why support it as such? Because of the Name?



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 05:27 PM
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Truth is dude... I might not wish to Live in their neighborhood per say, I might not embrace the culture as my own and adopt the language and phrases...

But I can't exactly imagine an America without it's African American community

Obama imho... will destroy it...

First thing I saw was the "community service thing" putting kids from all walks of life into tents for the summer...

To do what?

Screw each other like Camp lol... it's obvious what the agenda of integration is to the man... and that's GREAT when it happens naturally

But 40 Million African Americans divided into 300 Million others = 0 African Americans when said and done...

The ELIMINATION of RACE

It's very fascist if you ask me...very nationalistic, not multicultural at all, very, very BLAND



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 05:55 PM
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Mopsy , this is why I call you unstable. You bounce back and forth all over the place , you seem very schizophrinic or bi-polar.

Obviously you didnt read my post or didnt comprehend it.

I AM A CONSERVATIVE

I AM A FOLLOWER OF JESUS CHRIST

You continue to generalize and put people into labeled boxes. I have other conservatives in my family who still belong to the republican party and just because we have differing views we still love each other.

Also for you to chew on , a sibling of mine who is a staunch republican and conservative and is married to a man who is very , very active in the party here in this county , this sibling had an abortion.......ooooooohh.

I do not judge her , it is not my place. I love her and others who I dont always agree with.

I was a Ron Paul supporter , didnt care much for Mccain but was with him til he picked palin. Just because I think she is a bit goofy and I didnt think and still dont think she would be qualified to be vice president much less president doesnt mean I am a liberal.

Keep having fun with your palin love fest and put on your armor and protect her honor all you want , heck it is providing quite a bit of low brow entertainment. Try to expand your mind a bit and understand that just because you "feel" a certain way does not mean another republican/conservative cant believe different way. Your opinion is not the consensus of all republicans/conservatives. ( I say feel because I can tell by your posts you are a very emotional man/boy?)

Try and go back and look at your posts objectively and see how you bounce around just blurting out emotions. You say you are over 40?
I am 46 and from what I have read on here you are acting very emotionally and irrationally just as how you have accused the liberals of acting.

I cant waste anymore time with this childishness. Have fun with your mind trip.



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