Israel thaws 28 settlements in 10-month freeze

Israel thaws 28 settlements in 10-month freeze

www.presstv.ir

Israel approves construction of 28 buildings in the West Bank despite a temporary freeze and mounting calls for an end to the illegal settlement activity in the occupied land.

Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak on Thursday allowed the construction of 28 new public buildings in settlements, Ha'aretz revealed on Friday.

(visit the link for the full news article)

"These public buildings and schools must be completed in time for the start of the new school year in September," said the defense ministry in an attempt to justify the move.

This is while Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had earlier boasted a decision to freeze settlement expansions for10 months.

Much to the peace brokers' disappointment, however, Netanyahu's decision did not include disputed Jerusalem Al-Quds, which Israel occupied during the 1967 war.

Any personal opinion i have on the matter will either be hi-jacked and me be accused of some sort of bigot, or completely ignored. So i present to you solely the article and "facts" that are in it.
Your opinions will either make a conversation or start yet another "i hate you, you hate me, lets not look at it politically" thread.
Also that ryhmed.


www.presstv.ir
(visit the link for the full news article)

No way, israelis going back on their word?!?!

UNHEARD OF!

I'm pretty sure they knew when the school year was starting when they agreed to the settlement freeze!

I'd say 95% of Middle Eastern anger towards the US is solely on israels shoulders.

If we want to stop terrorism in out country, lets stop supporting the only true terrorist state, israel.

[edit on 27-11-2009 by breakingdradles]

Oh nice! Another Isreal bash thread
No offence OP, but even your disclaimer can't stop the Isreal haters on this site (as you can see by the first post).

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Originally posted by MysterE
Oh nice! Another Isreal bash thread

No offence OP, but even your disclaimer can't stop the Isreal haters on this site (as you can see by the first post).

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Nor can you stop the israeli supporters coming here to change the topic and slandering fellow members, as you can see by the third post.

If your confronted by facts, change the subject and start up the slander!

[edit on 27-11-2009 by breakingdradles]

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Dude, your member name is "breaking dradles", Do I need to go further?

-E-

For me the thing that is concerning when you take a step back from the "side wars" is the lack of respect for the laws.

"Tel Aviv has so far failed to act upon three consecutive court rulings for the evacuations. "

Now i am sure Palestine is breaking some court ordered laws and sanctions but for a Democratic state to simply ignore the ruling of the judicial system is alarming. What holds power then? The courts or the government?
We saw this with Nixon in his famous "im saying if the president does it, it's not Illegal" statement.
The government in Israel is supported by the U.S. and it seems to me that "Democratic" Society has become a sticker they put on certain countries they wish to deal with but ignore the actual societal structures of the country.
Its not communist China, its Largest Trading Partner China, its not Red Russians, its Russia a growing ally. Its still communist Cuba though.
These labels we are given is like the surgeon general warning saying you know what this country is safe or its not safe. Labeling Israel as Democratic says that what they are doing is what we as north americans would do as they are form the same democratic cloth. So the un-educated on the subject will be led to believe that Israel is follwoing every course of action that we would and following in a Judicially sound Democratic society. When there actions seem to put no credence in the Law of their own Land.

reply to post by Hack28


Israel is taking ` three steps forward ` so as to only concede `one step back` later. I fear that the state of Israel has excepted the status quo , believing that they can live with the current level of `threat` . They will continue to thwart any meaningful action , whilst continuing to pay lip service to the possibility of an independent Palestinian state .

Tick tock tick tock ....... another decade ~ another 100,000 settlers on land earmarked for a future Palestinian State. More obfuscation ahead imho.

I almost started this thread this morning but I declined for the very reasons stated in the OP. I will, however, comment on this as there is more to the story.

It is no doubt only a matter of time before Israel supporters will denounce the Palestinians for immediately rejecting this meaningless ploy and propaganda clearly aimed at further demonizing the Palestinians while simultaneously attempting to portray Israel as a champion for peace. The Jerusalem Post makes this assertation clear for us.

lthough Israel has made more gestures in the last ten months than all previous governments, the Palestinians reacted by "cursing and quarreling," said Lieberman, adding that the ball was now "in their court."

~snip~

"This policy of restraint will prove once and for all that settlements have never been, nor will they ever be obstacles to peace," said Ayalon.

He added, "This is only a limited window of opportunity. It will be sufficient to demonstrate whether the Palestinians are serious about peace or just serial excuse givers.
Jerusalem Post

Strange that the Palestinians openly state that these settlements directly impact peace talks. What we have here is a tired old rerun of the same ploy that we have been watching for years, and ten months from now when full construction starts again Israel will loudly proclaim that "they tried".

Lets look closer at this faux gesture.

So does that mean the hammers will fall silent immediately? Far from it.

Under Netanyahu's plan for a freeze, construction of 2500 partly built units in the West Bank can be completed. So can construction on another 500 in the West Bank announced this year. Construction of schools, synagogues, and other public buildings can also continue.

This isn't even a slowdown on last year.

In 2008, according to the Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics, there were 1647 housing starts, following 1389 housing starts in 2007.

In Israeli-annexed East Jerusalem, where the Palestinians hope to make the capital of their future state, Netanyahu says no limits will apply.
Sydney Morning Herald

Let's be very clear that the construction halt is very limited in scope and only applies to very specific areas. It is also of not that the no-limits construction in the annexed East Jerusalem precisely where the Palestinian capitol is to be in the two solutions proposed in both the road map and the Geneva accords. source

Continuing unrestriced building, or building at all for that matter, on the location designated as the future Palestinian capital in a two state solution smacks of insincerity on the part of the Israelis. as does the continued construction of everything except new residences aside from the 500 that have yet to break ground and will be allowed under the faux gesture.

So Israel during this 10 month freeze Israel can continue residential construction of 2500 homes, and can BEGIN construction on an additional 500 more.

Construction of anything that is not a residential home is unaffected INCLUDING consruction of a light rail which will link the illegal settlements together and to Israel proper.

All construction in all imprtant East Jerusalem will continue unaffected.

Meanwhile, Israel is to ask the Supreme Court for more time to evacuate illegal outposts in Eli, Horsha, and Netiv Ha'avot, as well as six other locations in the West Bank. Tel Aviv has so far failed to act upon three consecutive court rulings for the evacuations.
from the OP

It should come as no surprise that the Palestinians can see through this ruse meant to garner international support for Israel. It is no surprise to me.

We've seen it all before.

Originally posted by MysterE
reply to post by breakingdradles

 

Dude, your member name is "breaking dradles", Do I need to go further?

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Does that make what I say any less valid?

If so, you need to do some self searching.

I find it a funny name, one I have actually been complemented on many times.

If it were racist in ANY way, I'm pretty sure ATS would have made me change it LONG ago!

It amazes me how American and British soldiers are dieing everyday in wars supposed to be about overthrowing oppressive regimes who behave badly towards their own people and murder and ostricise certain sections of their population, but at the same time these countries support the Israeli government who do the exact same things.

We are often told that the wars are about installing democracy and fairness. Yet Israel is regarded as one of the least democratic or fair societies on earth.

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