Originally posted by oliveoil
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A lot of Christians forget that the Bible says that no one is with out sin.
For one person who sins,to help another who sins by telling them they are going to hell, he would be a Hypocrite
Sigh...Sin was in fact a Babylonian Sun God. All of the old Gods were demonized by Christianity, just like they demonized the women for Eve, in the
myth of creation.
Have you ever thought to research the words you find in the bible?
Let me tell you a short story. My mother, rest her soul, was as devout as can be. Me, on the other hand, I have seen ghosts of the formerly alive
since early childhood. As a boy i played war with men who were dressed in grey and blue rags, and spoke of how the Yankees had taken freedom away fro
us. One day I was late for supper, and my mom questioned me about this, and I blurted out who and what I had been doing. she was shocked, and the next
three days were pure hell for me. Her and several church members, two women and a man, plus the minister, tried for all this time every day for Satan
to release the demons from me. I will never forget how they smelled, it was the middle of July, and hot. Of course there were no demons, and BTW, I
still see those men, or what was men from time to time, when danger rears it's ugly head.
I used to go to church, made by Mom, and one day the preacher said some things that I questioned. I asked him these questions, and he told me to, "go
home and read your bible, son, all of the answers are in there!" So, I did. From cover to cover, I am a great reader, always have been. when I
returned, instead of having a few questions, not I had many, over 100, and I was politely asked to leave, and not to come back. I was told, "not to
question the word of God." I thought, how could this be? How could he tell be that wisdom was the tool of the Devil, and Sophia in the bible means
wisdom, just as the original word for "witch" means "one who is wise." The oldest bible in the known world is the "Codex Sinaiticus," and it
hasn't even been fully translated yet, at least to my knowledge. The Apocryphal bible is a lot older than the KJ version, but is dismissed by
Christians, even though KJ was heavily based on it.
All modern bibles are translations of older texts, such as the "P" document, and the "Q" document. The "scriptures" used by most readers are
based on much older manuscripts that have been translated into English. The three most important of these older Bibles are known as the "Masoretic
Text", the "Septuagint" and the "Samaritan Pentateuch". Scholars BELIEVE
that the books in these three texts are from pre-christian times,
but unfortunately no really early manuscripts were available before the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Translations were made from the oldest
available manuscripts, most of them Medieval Texts, in the BELIEF that these late documents were accurate copies of far more ancient texts. No one
knows for certain, though many Christians THINK they know. For one thing, There is not a shred of legitimate historical evidence anywhere that the
"Jesus Story" originated as the biography of a man named Jesus, and quite a lot of evidence that it did not.
The basic plot of the Jesus Story, including the motif of a crucified savior, already existed in many other religions long prior to the alleged time
of Jesus. Actually, most of what Christians BELIEVE is the WORD of GOD was taken from so called "Heathen" beliefs!
The "P" document
The "Q" Document
Ancient Egyptian Religion had a big part to play also, basically everything in the bible was taken from ancient Egyptian sources, even the word,
Amen," said after each prayer and often during services is a call to Amen-Re, the Egyptian Sun God. Amon-Ra was believed to be the sun god and the
lord of the universe. Osiris was the god of the underworld. Stories about him revolved around the idea of immortality. Osiris was the God that made a
peaceful afterlife possible.
Babylon has always been the enemy of Yaweh. Babylon was founded by Nimrod who was the enemy of God. He claimed to be the representative or high priest
of the Sun God. When He died, his wife said that he went to be with the 'Sun God'. Her name was Semiramis, or Ishtar, and when she had an
illegitimate son, Tammuz, she said that he was conceived by Nimrod the Sun God and was therefore the promised Son of God, therefore a false Christ or
anti-Christ. Ishtar became the 'Mother of God' and the goddess of reproduction. Their worship was based on the Solar System and so they worshiped
the greatest planet, the Sun. Their day of worship was on the day of the Sun, the first day of the week, Sunday.
This was the first organized
false religion after the flood. They tried to establish a world religion based on sun worship and started to build a tower to reach heaven, (Tower of
Babel) to be closer to their God, the Sun
. Even the name " Nimrod" means "Rebel."
GEN 10:8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. 10:9 He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as
Nimrod the mighty hunter (warior) before (against) the LORD. 10:10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel (Babylon), and Erech, and Accad, and
Calneh, in the land of Shinar.
Most of the world's population has been "taught" to believe in some first cause, deity, higher power or "God." The names are various depending
upon which religious tradition a person has been born into.
In the Judeo-Christian tradition, we have been taught to believe a series of stories contained in the Old and New Testaments about the earliest
periods of the history of the Semitic peoples as if these times were sacred, inspired by deity and therefore, not to be questioned or considered as
anything other than the "truth."
From my perspective, however, these ancient stories were written by persons who believed themselves to have been "appointed" by deity to set forth
the way people of that era were supposed to live, behave and continue to thrive in the face of the hostility, threats, wars and various natural
disasters which have occurred throughout the history. Here is one direct contradiction in the bible:
After Adam and Eve sinned, God made coats of skins to cover them (Genesis 3:21). He therefore had to kill at least one animal. This literal action is
symbolic of our salvation; an innocent Lamb (Christ—the Lamb of God) would be sacrificed to provide a covering for sin (John 1:29). In the Old
Testament, people would sacrifice animals to the Lord as a reminder of their sin (Hebrews 10:3) and as a symbol of the One to come, the Lord Jesus,
who would actually pay the penalty for sin.
The animal sacrifices did not actually pay the penalty for sin (Hebrews 10:4, 11). Animals are not related to us; their shed blood cannot count for
ours. But the blood of Christ can. Christ is a blood relative of ours since He is descended from Adam as are we; all human beings are of “one
blood” ( Acts 17:26). Furthermore, since Christ is also God, His life is of infinite value, and thus, His death can pay for all the sins of all
people. That is why only the Lord Himself could be our Savior (Isaiah 45:21). Therefore, Christ died once for all (Hebrews 10:10). And there is
another contradiction: If Jesus died for our "sins," then why are we still considered sinners? After all, they are bought and paid for, are they
not? And another thing...if God is this Omnipotent, All Powerful being, then could he in fact create a stone that even he could not lift? No? He is
Omnipotent, remember? And weren't Angels created without free will, their only purpose to OBEY God expressly? then how could some Angels use their
free will to rebel against God?
I will leave you now, oliveoil, and remember, I am not out to flame you, or even to make you angry. I am just trying to educate you, and every other
Christin who reads this post. I have nothing against you, or any other person who is bent on depriving themselves of the truths that are out there for
everyone to discover. That computer you are sitting at is for more than playing games and answering emails, and instant messaging. Use that search
engine for what it was designed for, to search! Love, and Light be with you.
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