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A Letter to Obama from a WWII veteran

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posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 08:19 AM
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Hey everyone I received this letter from a family member. It's from a WWII veteran that served his country and for years has supported patriotic movements and causes. A humble man who stands by his convictions and has not spoken out about a government official until now. It is worth taking the time to read.


Dear President Obama,

My name is Harold Estes, approaching 95 on December 13 of this year. People meeting me for the first time don't believe my age because I remain wrinkle free and pretty much mentally alert.

I enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1934 and served proudly
before, during and after WW II retiring as a Master Chief Bos'n Mate. Now I live in a "rest home" located on the western end of Pearl Harbor, allowing me to keep alive the memories of 23 years of service to my country.

One of the benefits of my age, perhaps the only one,
is to speak my mind, blunt and direct even to the head man.

So here goes.

I am amazed, angry and determined not to see my country die before I do, but you seem hell bent not to grant me that wish.

I can't figure out what country you are the president of.
You fly around the world telling our friends and enemies despicable lies like:
" We're no longer a Christian nation"
" America is arrogant" - (Your wife even announced to the world,"America is mean-spirited. " Please tell her to try preaching that nonsense to 23 generations of our war dead buried all over the globe who died for no other reason than to free a whole lot of strangers from tyranny and hopelessness.)

I'd say shame on the both of you, but I don't think you like America, nor do I see an ounce of gratefulness in anything you do, for the obvious gifts this country has given you. To be without shame or gratefulness is a dangerous thing for a man sitting in the White House.

After 9/11 you said," America hasn't lived up to her
ideals."

Which ones did you mean? Was it the notion of personal liberty that 11,000 farmers and shopkeepers died for to win independence from the British? Or maybe the ideal that no man should be a slave to another man, that 500,000 men died for in the Civil War? I hope you didn't mean the ideal 470,000 fathers, brothers, husbands, and a lot of fellas I knew personally died for in WWII, because we felt real strongly about not letting any nation push us around, because we stand for freedom.

I don't think you mean the ideal that says equality is better than discrimination. You know the one that a whole lot of white people understood when they helped to get you elected.

Take a little advice from a very old geezer, young man.

Shape up and start acting like an American. If you don't, I'll do what I can to see you get shipped out of that fancy rental on Pennsylvania Avenue. You were elected to lead not to bow, apologize and kiss the hands of murderers and corrupt leaders who still treat their people like slaves.

And just who do you think you are telling the American people not to jump to conclusions and condemn that Muslim major who killed 13 of his fellow soldiers and wounded dozens more. You mean you don't want us to do what you did when that white cop used force to subdue that black college professor in Massachusetts, who was putting up a fight? You don't mind offending the police calling them stupid but you don't want us to offend Muslim fanatics by calling them what they are, terrorists.

One more thing. I realize you never served in the military and never had to defend your country with your life, but you're the Commander-in-Chief now, son. Do your job. When your battle-hardened field General asks you for 40,000 more troops to complete the mission, give them to him. But if you're not in this fight to win, then get out. The life of one American soldier is not worth the best political strategy you're thinking of.


[edit on 27-11-2009 by av8r007]

[edit on 27-11-2009 by av8r007]




posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 08:20 AM
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Continued from above....



You could be our greatest president because you face the greatest challenge ever presented to any president.
You're not going to restore American greatness by bringing back our bloated economy. That's not our greatest threat. Losing the heart and soul of who we are as Americans is our big fight now.
And I sure as hell don't want to think my president is the enemy in this final battle.

Sincerely,
Harold B. Estes


There you have it. When a 95 year old man of the "Greatest Generation" speaks out you know something is wrong. May God bless America!


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posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 08:43 AM
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There you have it. When a 95 year old man of the "Greatest Generation" speaks out you know something is wrong.


Or, he's just another old, out of touch old person who relies on government run health care and listens to fox news, which means that he's been made afraid.

right wing media fear at it's best, frightening the elderly, they must be so proud.


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posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 08:51 AM
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Or, he's just another old, out of touch old person who relies on government run health care and listens to fox news, which means that he's been made afraid.


Another old person, huh? Don't you just hate 'em? Gawd, these people think that just because they have lived so long and done so much that they are suddenly worth listening to!

Aren't you glad that you are still young enough to know everything?


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posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 08:52 AM
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I don't think so. I see someone who fought for freedom defending it's principles. No American President should ever bow to another countries leader. That is what the Revolution was fought for. I can see your far-left rhetoric in your other post. Obama lies his ass off as much as Bush did.



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by av8r007
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I don't think so. I see someone who fought for freedom defending it's principles. No American President should ever bow to another countries leader. That is what the Revolution was fought for. I can see your far-left rhetoric in your other post. Obama lies his ass off as much as Bush did.


That's such garbage. Yes, he did fight for our freedoms, and his was the last generation to do so. Since then, war has been a for profit enterprise exclusively.

The "bow" trash is just that. All presidents have either bowed, held hands, kissed, or whatever. That is such a fox-news talking point. Wake up already.



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 12:32 PM
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I can read the heartbreak and anger this man feels in his letter , unfortunately america died long before he realized it , on Jeckyl Island when the FED was created. After ww2 that he fought in ,which was a big misdirection trick , it was used as an excuse to build weapons , craft and underground bases and launder ridiculous sums of money , which facilitated the transfer of hittler and his high command along with Aryans of the purest blood to New Swabia , Antarctica .

Nazis in america like the Bushes and Rothschilds funded OPERATION PAPERCLIP to bring into america , nazi scientists who went to work covertly at destroying america from within. Socialism came around the sixties with the counterculture all under the influence of some of these nazi scientists' like Freidrich von Balluseck and Alfred kinsey , funded by illuminati families. Presently we're going through the phase of adding NATIONAL infront of that socialism to make it national socialism e.i NAZI-ism. Don't believe me then explain bailing out private banks and businesses with taxpayers money , NATIONALIZED.



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by av8r007
reply to post by Rhetoric
 


I don't think so. I see someone who fought for freedom defending it's principles. No American President should ever bow to another countries leader. That is what the Revolution was fought for. I can see your far-left rhetoric in your other post. Obama lies his ass off as much as Bush did.


Why not ???
Any world leader should show respect for leaders of other nations.

If not you are basically saying we are America, we are the world. Honestly that level of arrogance is very dangerous.



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 12:51 PM
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I feel sorry for this old war veteran.

He has some very good points but I feel he looks upon his memory with nostalgic rose tinted glasses.

Yes he thought for what was Freedom back in the 40's, as soon as the 50's rolled round the world was already getting even more dangerous.

Since then many presidents have tried to enforce a new empire upon the world under the guise of freedom.
Freedom that the American forefathers made possible is now nothing more than a nostalgic memory in history books.

Freedom for the people in any nation equals problems for any ruling elite.



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 12:52 PM
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There you have it. When a 95 year old man of the "Greatest Generation" speaks out you know something is wrong. May God bless America!


You mean the generation that had signs saying Barack Obama wouldn't be able to drink from the same water fountain?




Greatest Generation my ass

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posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 12:58 PM
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Oh my God, so now GLURGE is passing for commentary on ATS???
Are we now going to cut and paste every sappy piece of BS we get in our inboxes?
What next? Jesus and kittens?



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 01:07 PM
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Well Obama is not on my mailing list, but these outrage letter from a "friend"
are suspicious and predictable. Anyways this 95 year old bat listens to too much Beck
and seems to be as self aware as Charles Manson. Where was this guy this last decade?

It's
LAUGHABLE

I hope Obama fails as horribly as yall wish, our else you are gonna be an unhappy lot.
He is gonna be teflon if this gets any sight better - these "letters" are like a slow inoculation, building up people tolerance. IMO



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 01:11 PM
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sure a lot has changed since WWII, and sure a lot has gone wrong, he's dead on right about a lot of things and wrong about others. but that's my opinion. just as this was his.

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and also the generation that helped change that. and also the first generation who fought side by side with all races. yeah, very dramatic with your picture there. try again.

Edited to fix something I misread.

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posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 01:14 PM
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Just the same racist christian phyco bable we see day in and day out by peopel who want "that colored fellow" out of the white house. Obama is right, America is not a christian nation, its a multicultural nation built on may faiths and religions. BUT if you want to be exact, the natives were there first , so let them decide what the official religion of the country should be. So yeah, racism, seggergation, fear, arrogance, redneck right wing hate speech is all I read. Yeeeee Hawwwwww



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 01:15 PM
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and also the generation that helped change that. and also the first generation who fought side by side with all races. yeah, very dramatic with your picture there. try again.


You mean the generation of minorities who fought against the oppression. And the picture is real, its not fake. Its not photoshopped...that girl really did take that drink from a water fountain that our government said could legally read "coloreds only" "whites only"

If being realistic is dramatic - then call me Shakespeare.


Originally posted by redoubt
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Aren't you glad that you are still young enough to know everything?


Old people are just like any other group of people: A few winners, a whole BUNCH of loosers. With age comes experience. But experience doesn't always equal wisdom or intelligence...infact, it rarely ever does. It takes an intelligent person to extract wisdom from an experience.

And old people don't inherit intelligence with age.

So your snide, condescending remarks are really quite humorous.



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posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 01:20 PM
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No, I am saying that an American President should never bow to a foreign leader. Showing respect is another thing entirely and can be done without groveling like Obama. We do not recognize monarchs in America! Bowing in an act of submission. That is the definition of a bow.



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by av8r007
reply to post by colec156
 


No, I am saying that an American President should never bow to a foreign leader. Showing respect is another thing entirely and can be done without groveling like Obama. We do not recognize monarchs in America! Bowing in an act of submission. That is the definition of a bow.


God the amount of sensationalized bs on this site sometimes is amazing, grovel? really? He's a tall man, bowing to a much shorter asian man, would have looked the same as an NBA player bowning to japanese basketball players in teh Olympics, th ey dont' do it often OR AT ALL and when it does, it looks awkward. Live in the real world dude



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 01:28 PM
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Please don't tell me your posting silly internet email chain letters.



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 01:30 PM
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You know what i see....I see a lot of young people out there who have totally lost respect for their elders, and the accomplishments of the elderly.

Those who in their selfish minds, feel entitled to everything they get.

Theyve lost touch? I think the younger generations now days have.

These people fought world wars, went through depression, survived REAL hard times, not a week without a computer or the internet.

They scraped and scrounged for thing things they got. They EARNED IT.

You want to talk about bowing as a talking point? Fine....learn something from the Asian cultures, learn to respect and revere your elders and listen to their advice.

They have more wisdom and integrity in their little finger , then you ever thought about having.

Take your leftist bullcrap and put it somewhere else, you bash on them, but if it wasnt for them, youd be WISHING you could voice your sarcastic, narcissistic dribble, instead of cowing down behind a Nazi German flag.



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 01:31 PM
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Not to get off topic, but notice that the Japanese emperor did not return the bow therefore being the superior in the situation. They were not on equal terms. It is about honor. This country used to stand for something. Our principles used to be without compromise. I'm tired of cowardly people trying to make decisions for me. I don't want or need it.

I am tired of people wanting safety and sacrificing freedom in it's name. If you secure freedom you will have your safety. Nothing, but damn cowards anymore with no backbone! Let freedom ring in this nation. Stop the this new age and progressive government from taking our God given rights! We will wake up in shackles if this continues. Nothing, but a hollow shell of our former glory!



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