A Letter to Obama from a WWII veteran, page 1
Pages: <<  1    2    3    4  >>
ATS Members have flagged this thread 23 times
Topic started on 27-11-2009 @ 08:19 AM by av8r007
Hey everyone I received this letter from a family member. It's from a WWII veteran that served his country and for years has supported patriotic movements and causes. A humble man who stands by his convictions and has not spoken out about a government official until now. It is worth taking the time to read.

Dear President Obama,

My name is Harold Estes, approaching 95 on December 13 of this year. People meeting me for the first time don't believe my age because I remain wrinkle free and pretty much mentally alert.

I enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1934 and served proudly
before, during and after WW II retiring as a Master Chief Bos'n Mate. Now I live in a "rest home" located on the western end of Pearl Harbor, allowing me to keep alive the memories of 23 years of service to my country.

One of the benefits of my age, perhaps the only one,
is to speak my mind, blunt and direct even to the head man.

So here goes.

I am amazed, angry and determined not to see my country die before I do, but you seem hell bent not to grant me that wish.

I can't figure out what country you are the president of.
You fly around the world telling our friends and enemies despicable lies like:
" We're no longer a Christian nation"
" America is arrogant" - (Your wife even announced to the world,"America is mean-spirited. " Please tell her to try preaching that nonsense to 23 generations of our war dead buried all over the globe who died for no other reason than to free a whole lot of strangers from tyranny and hopelessness.)

I'd say shame on the both of you, but I don't think you like America, nor do I see an ounce of gratefulness in anything you do, for the obvious gifts this country has given you. To be without shame or gratefulness is a dangerous thing for a man sitting in the White House.

After 9/11 you said," America hasn't lived up to her
ideals."

Which ones did you mean? Was it the notion of personal liberty that 11,000 farmers and shopkeepers died for to win independence from the British? Or maybe the ideal that no man should be a slave to another man, that 500,000 men died for in the Civil War? I hope you didn't mean the ideal 470,000 fathers, brothers, husbands, and a lot of fellas I knew personally died for in WWII, because we felt real strongly about not letting any nation push us around, because we stand for freedom.

I don't think you mean the ideal that says equality is better than discrimination. You know the one that a whole lot of white people understood when they helped to get you elected.

Take a little advice from a very old geezer, young man.

Shape up and start acting like an American. If you don't, I'll do what I can to see you get shipped out of that fancy rental on Pennsylvania Avenue. You were elected to lead not to bow, apologize and kiss the hands of murderers and corrupt leaders who still treat their people like slaves.

And just who do you think you are telling the American people not to jump to conclusions and condemn that Muslim major who killed 13 of his fellow soldiers and wounded dozens more. You mean you don't want us to do what you did when that white cop used force to subdue that black college professor in Massachusetts, who was putting up a fight? You don't mind offending the police calling them stupid but you don't want us to offend Muslim fanatics by calling them what they are, terrorists.

One more thing. I realize you never served in the military and never had to defend your country with your life, but you're the Commander-in-Chief now, son. Do your job. When your battle-hardened field General asks you for 40,000 more troops to complete the mission, give them to him. But if you're not in this fight to win, then get out. The life of one American soldier is not worth the best political strategy you're thinking of.


[edit on 27-11-2009 by av8r007]

[edit on 27-11-2009 by av8r007]


reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 08:43 AM by Rhetoric
reply to post by av8r007




There you have it. When a 95 year old man of the "Greatest Generation" speaks out you know something is wrong.


Or, he's just another old, out of touch old person who relies on government run health care and listens to fox news, which means that he's been made afraid.

right wing media fear at it's best, frightening the elderly, they must be so proud.



reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 08:51 AM by redoubt
reply to post by Rhetoric




Or, he's just another old, out of touch old person who relies on government run health care and listens to fox news, which means that he's been made afraid.


Another old person, huh? Don't you just hate 'em? Gawd, these people think that just because they have lived so long and done so much that they are suddenly worth listening to!

Aren't you glad that you are still young enough to know everything?


reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 08:52 AM by av8r007
reply to post by Rhetoric



I don't think so. I see someone who fought for freedom defending it's principles. No American President should ever bow to another countries leader. That is what the Revolution was fought for. I can see your far-left rhetoric in your other post. Obama lies his ass off as much as Bush did.


reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 09:24 AM by Rhetoric
Originally posted by av8r007
reply to
post by Rhetoric



I don't think so. I see someone who fought for freedom defending it's principles. No American President should ever bow to another countries leader. That is what the Revolution was fought for. I can see your far-left rhetoric in your other post. Obama lies his ass off as much as Bush did.


That's such garbage. Yes, he did fight for our freedoms, and his was the last generation to do so. Since then, war has been a for profit enterprise exclusively.

The "bow" trash is just that. All presidents have either bowed, held hands, kissed, or whatever. That is such a fox-news talking point. Wake up already.


reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 12:42 PM by colec156
Originally posted by av8r007
reply to
post by Rhetoric



I don't think so. I see someone who fought for freedom defending it's principles. No American President should ever bow to another countries leader. That is what the Revolution was fought for. I can see your far-left rhetoric in your other post. Obama lies his ass off as much as Bush did.


Why not ???
Any world leader should show respect for leaders of other nations.

If not you are basically saying we are America, we are the world. Honestly that level of arrogance is very dangerous.



reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 12:52 PM by Snarf
reply to post by av8r007



There you have it. When a 95 year old man of the "Greatest Generation" speaks out you know something is wrong. May God bless America!


You mean the generation that had signs saying Barack Obama wouldn't be able to drink from the same water fountain?




Greatest Generation my ass

[edit on 27-11-2009 by Snarf]


reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 01:11 PM by ~Lucidity
sure a lot has changed since WWII, and sure a lot has gone wrong, he's dead on right about a lot of things and wrong about others. but that's my opinion. just as this was his.

reply to
post by Snarf



and also the generation that helped change that. and also the first generation who fought side by side with all races. yeah, very dramatic with your picture there. try again.

Edited to fix something I misread.

[edit on 27-11-2009 by ~Lucidity]


reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 01:15 PM by Snarf
reply to post by ~Lucidity



and also the generation that helped change that. and also the first generation who fought side by side with all races. yeah, very dramatic with your picture there. try again.


You mean the generation of minorities who fought against the oppression. And the picture is real, its not fake. Its not photoshopped...that girl really did take that drink from a water fountain that our government said could legally read "coloreds only" "whites only"

If being realistic is dramatic - then call me Shakespeare.


Originally posted by redoubt
reply to post by Rhetoric



Aren't you glad that you are still young enough to know everything?


Old people are just like any other group of people: A few winners, a whole BUNCH of loosers. With age comes experience. But experience doesn't always equal wisdom or intelligence...infact, it rarely ever does. It takes an intelligent person to extract wisdom from an experience.

And old people don't inherit intelligence with age.

So your snide, condescending remarks are really quite humorous.



[edit on 27-11-2009 by Snarf]

[edit on 27-11-2009 by Snarf]



reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 01:20 PM by av8r007
reply to post by colec156



No, I am saying that an American President should never bow to a foreign leader. Showing respect is another thing entirely and can be done without groveling like Obama. We do not recognize monarchs in America! Bowing in an act of submission. That is the definition of a bow.


reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 01:23 PM by stereovoyaged
Originally posted by av8r007
reply to
post by colec156



No, I am saying that an American President should never bow to a foreign leader. Showing respect is another thing entirely and can be done without groveling like Obama. We do not recognize monarchs in America! Bowing in an act of submission. That is the definition of a bow.


God the amount of sensationalized bs on this site sometimes is amazing, grovel? really? He's a tall man, bowing to a much shorter asian man, would have looked the same as an NBA player bowning to japanese basketball players in teh Olympics, th ey dont' do it often OR AT ALL and when it does, it looks awkward. Live in the real world dude


reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 01:30 PM by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by stereovoyaged



You know what i see....I see a lot of young people out there who have totally lost respect for their elders, and the accomplishments of the elderly.

Those who in their selfish minds, feel entitled to everything they get.

Theyve lost touch? I think the younger generations now days have.

These people fought world wars, went through depression, survived REAL hard times, not a week without a computer or the internet.

They scraped and scrounged for thing things they got. They EARNED IT.

You want to talk about bowing as a talking point? Fine....learn something from the Asian cultures, learn to respect and revere your elders and listen to their advice.

They have more wisdom and integrity in their little finger , then you ever thought about having.

Take your leftist bullcrap and put it somewhere else, you bash on them, but if it wasnt for them, youd be WISHING you could voice your sarcastic, narcissistic dribble, instead of cowing down behind a Nazi German flag.


reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 01:31 PM by av8r007
reply to post by stereovoyaged



Not to get off topic, but notice that the Japanese emperor did not return the bow therefore being the superior in the situation. They were not on equal terms. It is about honor. This country used to stand for something. Our principles used to be without compromise. I'm tired of cowardly people trying to make decisions for me. I don't want or need it.

I am tired of people wanting safety and sacrificing freedom in it's name. If you secure freedom you will have your safety. Nothing, but damn cowards anymore with no backbone! Let freedom ring in this nation. Stop the this new age and progressive government from taking our God given rights! We will wake up in shackles if this continues. Nothing, but a hollow shell of our former glory!
Pages: <<  1    2    3    4  >>    ^^TOP^^