Virgin Media to Monitor 40% of users in UK for "File-Sharing", page 1
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Topic started on 27-11-2009 @ 05:18 AM by george_gaz

Virgin Media to Monitor 40% of users in UK for "File-Sharing"


www.readwriteweb.com
Virgin Media, one of the UK's leading providers of television / broadband / mobile / phone services, has announced plans to use deep packet inspection technology to track illegal file-sharing activity among around 40 percent of its UK users. Users whose activities are being monitored will not be informed of this fact.

The tech comes from Detica, a company better known for working with government data and intelligence agencies than media files and P2P networks. Their CView product is designed to help put an end to illegal filesharing, and with ISPs showing interest, it's unlikely that Virg
(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 05:34 AM by george_gaz
reply to post by Now_Then



Good point

I have corrected the post to reflect what I meant.


reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 06:10 AM by tristar
Originally posted by george_gaz
Now this is scary stuff. I know that there are two sides to this story ...

a) copyright file sharing/downloading is illegal (such as movies, music, software etc.)

and

b) this kind of action is a breach of privacy

Virgin are not even going to notify users that they are being watched. I thought that this kind of deception was illegal hence why speed cameras are not hidden?

The article mentions that "Although the tech only examines aggregate traffic data, and although a Virgin spokeperson states that records will not be maintained on individual users," but I would argue that they are simply collecting this data to then decide whether to penalise their users.

This will cause a large number of people to move onto other ISPs.

www.readwriteweb.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

edit: correct point a)

[edit on 27-11-2009 by george_gaz]


I wonder if you have taken the time to read Virgin Terms anc Condition's


About your Virgin TV, Virgin Broadband and Virgin Phone services

2 You must, at all times, make sure that the way you use the services does not break the law or the rights of any other person. You are not allowed to copy or record any of the services , or any television or radio programmes contained in the services , except for your own private, domestic and non-commercial use (and if this kind of copying for personal use becomes illegal in the future, you must stop doing it). By law, you are not allowed to show the services , or any programmes contained in the services , to the public where an admission fee is charged. We and/or Virgin Media Entertainment are also entitled to restrict your ability to record Pay-Per-View or programmes on demand without notice and to charge a fee for recording them.





i. We reserve the right to monitor and control data volume and/or types of traffic transmitted via the interactive services on your Virgin TV and/or Internet access . In the event that you exceed any usage allowance applicable to your Internet access or your use does not comply with the 'acceptable use policy' which you can read on the Virgin Media Ltd website , we reserve the right (at our sole discretion) to reduce, suspend or terminate your Internet access . During any time of reduction or suspension, you will remain liable for the payment of your original level of Internet access charge. We also reserve the right (at our sole discretion) to re-grade your Internet access to a different speed and/or usage allowance at the appropriate charge. If we make such changes we will notify you as soon as possible.



allyours.virginmedia.com...

See how simple it is for them to do as they please, its similar to applying for a bank loan.

Next time read the fine print...!
:-)

[edit on 27-11-2009 by tristar]


reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 11:41 AM by quackers
reply to post by Silcone Synapse




Branson has nothing to do with Virgin Media (they have to pay him to appear), think of the "Virgin" bit as being a leased trademark.

I find the 40% interesting considering illegal downloaders are supposed to account for a mere 10% of the general population, circa 6 million in total across all ISPs. Unless Virgin are saying that they have a higher proportion of illegal downloaders (which makes some sense). I wonder what this means for their own usenet provision, if that goes, so does my VM subscription. May as well go to Sky and get a Giganews sub.



reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 12:19 PM by quackers
reply to post by Skyco



They are not the first. British Telecom has used DPI for years, namely Ellicoya systems. They are also one of the worst ISPs for file sharing ever. Virgin seem to have gone the whole hog and jumped right into bed with the defense industry though (Detica->BAE).



[edit on 27-11-2009 by quackers]


reply posted on 2-12-2009 @ 07:55 AM by george_gaz
reply to post by pazcat



Hey,

The 40% is just a random group I think. If they did 100% for this kind of testing scenario (a scenario to judge just how much of this is going on) then it would consume too many resources.

Now that everything appears signed and sealed we now just wait for them to deliver the blow ...
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