It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Florida students suspended over ‘Kick a Jew Day’

page: 4
8
<< 1  2  3    5  6 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 11:13 PM
link   
reply to post by TrueTruth
 


I have nothing against Jews, in fact they have taught me many interesting things (especialy about how underhanded Jews can be). I am speaking of Zionism and the Jewish lobby, which is first and foremost, Jewish. If you can't figure out why Jews might end up a target, you ain't paying attention. Obviously if your wife isn't a Zionist, and is not hell bent on screwing my country, I'm not talking about her, or the fact that she is even Jewish. Get over yourself, you and your wife are of little concern to me or the Jew kickers.


BTW you'd be one of those folk who could use a thicker skin. Sticks and stones my man. Learn.

[edit on 27-11-2009 by quackers]




posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 11:14 PM
link   

Originally posted by quackers
People now pick on Jews because they cannot get recourse against Israel.
We breed contempt.


I think you are confusing your personal politics (read 'bias') with history. Learn some history, because that was as profoundly ignorant a statement as it was wrong.



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 11:19 PM
link   

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by quackers
People now pick on Jews because they cannot get recourse against Israel.
We breed contempt.


I think you are confusing your personal politics (read 'bias') with history. Learn some history, because that was as profoundly ignorant a statement as it was wrong.


Be that as it may, Israel is asking for a kicking, and if the Jews are again persecuted it will be their own doing.



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 11:19 PM
link   
reply to post by quackers
 


underhanded?

wow.

your kid is highly unfortunate. as is anyone who has to know you.

interesting observation though....bigots do tend to be 'cognitively challenged'. Inevitably, your rationalizations of massive overgeneralization demonstrate the bigot's total inability to properly makes distinctions/associations. They also tend to be poor students of history, make unproven assumptions, and leap to conclusions.

You're a superstar.

Even if you don't care about your open embrace of bigotry, don't you at least care about not being a moron?

[edit on 27-11-2009 by TrueTruth]



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 11:21 PM
link   
reply to post by quackers
 


Again - logic, kid. How is a preteen Jewish kid in America responsible for the actions of the Israeli government?

Do you seriously not see how completely absurd that is? Would you mind be beating your kid on account of my disapproval of American foreign policy?

**

think:

America invaded Iraq on false pretenses.

Does that mean (assuming you are white) that all white people deserve to be targeted somehow?

Do you have any idea how profoundly ignorant you're being?

[edit on 27-11-2009 by TrueTruth]



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 11:23 PM
link   
I have a question maybe someone could answer??I was informed a zionist would not marry outside??? Is this true???



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 11:24 PM
link   
reply to post by fishing
 


no.

they are two separate beliefs, one not being conditional for the other.

many zionists are christian, btw.

[edit on 27-11-2009 by TrueTruth]



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 11:30 PM
link   

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by quackers
People now pick on Jews because they cannot get recourse against Israel.
We breed contempt.


I think you are confusing your personal politics (read 'bias') with history. Learn some history, because that was as profoundly ignorant a statement as it was wrong.


Those bias underhanded comments are unbecoming of a canadian citizen and you KNOW if you ever talkedt like that up here it'd be upside your head. Implyin'n'#, but since you put it it brackets it's ok.....

--editing out rightwing tendencies since 2009

----I came back here and edited this later. I don't think people understand how foolish it is to imply things only as an excuse to say it outright.
As an alberta construction worker, i've been witness to more fights involving sex, wage status, hours earned (if you are a framer you must frame over 200 hrs/m imho), and the like......(haha, never needed to argue abour race in real life cause it never mattered. This is me laughing at you), than most people need to deal with.
I deal with such problems honestly because, no matter what you may think, there's still a lotta "strong" blood flowing in this continent (Yeah white people, i'm sayin' you're fkin' crazy), people hate liars.
That is what people hate, liars. People that misrepresent themselves. They're called sellouts i think?

NOW AM I A "LIBERAL", because i spoke idealistically? The ignorant would have me say yes.......

I am on a tip right now. It's called, old people's opinion's being phases out by the destruction of ignorance, and it's growing every day.
It transcends any devisive scope that can be concocted.
It will never go away.

Frankly, old people, if i didn't know any better i'd think you were proud.

[edit on 27-11-2009 by heyo]

[edit on 28-11-2009 by heyo]



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 11:32 PM
link   

Originally posted by TrueTruth
reply to post by quackers
 


Again - logic, kid. How is a preteen Jewish kid in America responsible for the actions of the Israeli government?


I have never said they were responsible. They are no more responsible for the crap hole they were born into than any other disadvantaged individual on this planet. You see I don't see Jews as being anything special, I'm an equal opportunities hater. I hate white trash just as much as I hate Zionist scum.


Would you mind be beating your kid on account of my disapproval of American foreign policy?


Yes, I would, however I would understand if you felt like that was your only outlet, at least then we could begin to perhaps address the issue. Or I could just pretend that you just dont like me due to my colour, or religion or some other arbitrary nonsense. and ignore the cause. Like you sort of eh?




America invaded Iraq on false pretenses.


You mean the junk info given to the UK government by Mossad, the Israeli Mossad?

Back to square one.





[edit on 27-11-2009 by quackers]



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 11:43 PM
link   
"I have never said they were responsible."

Sure you did. You said if Jews don't want to be targeted, they need to check their own behavior. It's an inclusive statement, and it implicates the kids as 'deserving' what they got. Here you are both missing the point, and again, flaunting your racism.

What exactly did those kids do to deserve it? What on earth have they done related to Israel?


"No, I would not. I would however understand if you felt like that was your only outlet, at least then we could begin to perhaps address the issue. Or I could just pretend that you just dont like me due to my colour, or religion or some other arbitrary nonsense. and ignore the cause. Like you sort of eh?"

Did you know that when you say you don't mind, that means it's ok with you if I do it?


If you are rationalizing poor treatment of kids based on their race, because of something other people of their race did - never mind the fact that Jewish, once again, is not synonymous with Israeli - that is a very poor causal connection.





"Back to square one."

If by that you mean, you lumping all Jews together as a unit, all deserving of reprisal, and failing to distinguish kids from adults - Israelis from Americans - and civilians from their governments - then yes, we are indeed back to square one.


I suppose there's no point teaching you logic. You can't use logic to undo a position founded by its absence, I suppose. Especially if that person doesn't care a lick about things like, truth or intellectual honesty, such as yourself.





[edit on 27-11-2009 by TrueTruth]

[edit on 27-11-2009 by TrueTruth]

[edit on 27-11-2009 by TrueTruth]



posted on Nov, 27 2009 @ 11:51 PM
link   

Originally posted by quackers
reply to post by TrueTruth
 


I have nothing against Jews, in fact they have taught me many interesting things (especialy about how underhanded Jews can be). I am speaking of Zionism and the Jewish lobby, which is first and foremost, Jewish. If you can't figure out why Jews might end up a target, you ain't paying attention. Obviously if your wife isn't a Zionist, and is not hell bent on screwing my country, I'm not talking about her, or the fact that she is even Jewish. Get over yourself, you and your wife are of little concern to me or the Jew kickers.


BTW you'd be one of those folk who could use a thicker skin. Sticks and stones my man. Learn.

[edit on 27-11-2009 by quackers]





I read that this site has a zero tolerance policy against hate speech.

Calling Jews underhanded, is hate speech.

Mods - please review this thread, and boot quackers.

The guy's evil.



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 03:53 AM
link   

Originally posted by TrueTruth
I read that this site has a zero tolerance policy against hate speech.

Calling Jews underhanded, is hate speech.

Mods - please review this thread, and boot quackers.

The guy's evil.


You are overreacting, friend. What he was saying is not hate speech, you are just trying to view it as such.

Even if you strongly disagree with someone else's views, it does little for the truth if you want them to be gagged. Rather challenge them, ask them questions why they feel this way. You will need a thicker skin if you are interested in debating controversial issues.



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 04:20 AM
link   
reply to post by Dark Ghost
 



Calling Jews 'underhanded', is racist. There's no truth being pursued by slandering a people, or rationalizing the assault of children. There's no truth in blind hatred. Truth in that scenario, means stamping it out. The truth, is that it simply needs to be squelched. I don't want to hear what anybody has to say about inciting hated and violence any more than I am interested in allowing a child molester to hang around and rationalize his cruelty.

Some things, you just have to stamp the fk out.

Call it hate speech, call it whatever you like. I read enough about the forum policies to know that this is the kind of thing they don't want here.

And I don't think I'm overreacting at all.

This person, and everything he says, it a direct afront to people I love, and the fact that he's raising his kids to also be racist, and condones assaulting jewish kids, makes him a threat to society. If he lets his kids get just a little more out of control, he could conceivably run afoul of CPS.

It's not exageration when it comes to racism leading to violence.

I used to be a teacher - for about 10 years. If his kid pulled that stunt in my school, and I found out he was encouraging it, I'd take actions to have him punished by the law. Although an educator, it is job number one to make sure the kids are safe, and if I found out there was a parent contributing to a threat to a student's safety, I'd use every tool at my disposal to force him to stop. The right of the students to be free of that kind of crap trumps any consideration for his perspective.

I'd make sure there was a thorough review of his fitness to parent. You'd be surprised how much power a teacher has to bring trouble down on a parent if it's necessary. If you're teaching your kids to commit hate crimes, you better believe you stand a risk of losing the right to raise your own kids.

No, it's not trivial, and it's a problem that people treat it as such. These things don't go away by downplaying them.

There needs to be consequences, or behaviors never change.

This piece of filth needs to experience rejection at every turn. The message needs to be crystal clear that what he is doing, is evil.

No mincing words: it's evil.



I want him gone.

[edit on 28-11-2009 by TrueTruth]

[edit on 28-11-2009 by TrueTruth]



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 09:03 AM
link   

Originally posted by heyo

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by quackers
People now pick on Jews because they cannot get recourse against Israel.
We breed contempt.

I think you are confusing your personal politics (read 'bias') with history. Learn some history, because that was as profoundly ignorant a statement as it was wrong.

Those bias underhanded comments are unbecoming of a canadian citizen and you KNOW if you ever talkedt like that up here it'd be upside your head. Implyin'n'#, but since you put it it brackets it's ok.....


I think you may have it wrong here...my criticism is of quackers' justification of jew-kicking...I'm not standing up for it. I'm tellin' buddy his head is up his arse...but thanks for coming to the defence of the realm, just the same.



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 09:15 AM
link   

Originally posted by quackers
Be that as it may, Israel is asking for a kicking, and if the Jews are again persecuted it will be their own doing.


And you start that by beating up on the kids? Nice world you live in. You miss the point entirely. Kids will always pounce on the weakest one, and that weakness is generally defined by 'otherness'. The only connection between the State of Israel, and that Jewish kid that sits across the aisle in math class is being concocted by ignorant adults, 'cuz the kids sure aren't getting it laid out like that in the news. It's an older generation that is feeding the otherness.



And I don't know why I'm telling you this because you will either not get it, or it is outside of your agenda. Maybe it's for the odd bobblehead who gives you a star, without being sure why.

Xenophobia leads to dehumanization, which leads to genocide...and Sparky, it all starts by standing up for Kick A Jew day.



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 09:48 AM
link   
Quackers Im Jewish, and every post you have made has hurt, so if you are having your own kick a jew day, then well done, because you have done a fine job here.

Do not confuse jews with israel.....


[edit on 093030p://f49Saturday by Selahobed]



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 12:50 PM
link   
These are just kids doing what kids do to each other in their teenage years whether right or wrong. Let's not bring political policies/ politics in it.
In end, its kool they got suspended for a day. No one should face any discrimination on who they are, simple.



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 03:46 PM
link   
reply to post by quackers
 


it's been a while since I've had my stomach turned in here

fortunately, and I do mean fortunately - you show how low the bar is set for all aspiring bigots

[edit on 11/28/2009 by Spiramirabilis]



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 03:55 PM
link   
reply to post by Spiramirabilis
 


I've urged the mods to exercise their no-tolerance on bigotry policy, and ban quackers from the boards.

I call upon the rest of you to do the same.

Can I count on your support?

This evil must be checked wherever it is possible.



posted on Nov, 28 2009 @ 04:00 PM
link   
reply to post by quackers
 


Quackers, I hate you for your beliefs and your logic. I wish there were less people like you in the world. I hope somebody decides to kick you.

[edit on 28-11-2009 by really]



new topics

top topics



 
8
<< 1  2  3    5  6 >>

log in

join