Put it this way america has gone after people who have never done anything to them, do you think they care less about anyone who actually done something, no matter how foolish.

Americans do not need a reason to go after someone, if they choose they will, and thats it till the day they die. Thats the world we live in, america can do what it wants.

Was it really worth it, i would ask him?

Indeed andy1033, though he didn't find what he was looking for, it seems he did find some truth.

I wonder if he will write a book in jail, and what sentence he will get.

edit to add; This is the biggest case since Kevin Mitnick in my opinion.

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Poor guy i hope he ends up okay
its annoying, if this was some us citizen hacking into english data bases they would have him tried in america.

If I was Gary, I'd walk into court WITHOUT a lawyer and say:

"May I, and the court, please reveal the photo's that I am being charged at reviewing please?"


At least that notion would get through out. He would just face the hacking charge... Which may get thrown out.

My only advice to mckinnon is to find a place inside himself and focus on that. keep yourself true, no matter what they do.

I might be alone on this one but I so not care about this guy. He did commit a crime and should be judge over it.

US probably want to do a example of this guy tho, that's a rash.

I personally feel this is an indicator to the UFO community that there will not be a disclosure. If they had dropped their charges against this man, perhaps it could have been construed that there is a changing of attitudes. However the severity of these charges show that the authorities there are in no mood to have such sensitive information be accessed.

From another McKinnon thread I posted in, but relevant here:

Not so bothered about this guys supposed Human Rights, wether he is an Aspergers sufferer or not, he seems cognitive to me and he committed a crime, regardless of what he was "intending" to look for and what he actually did.

What bothers me and most I speak to about this is the blatant one-sided treatment Britain gets off the back of this extradition treaty. The US has to provide little evidence to extradite someone from the UK, just an accusation basically. Whereas the UK must provide an insurmountable burden of proof to even get an extradition hearing for a US citizen wanted for alleged crimes.

Another example of this "special relationship" is anything but.

Oh the "crime" was committed on US soil. It was perpetrated from the UK, but where do you think the servers and what not that NASA have are located?

Well he had an awesome hack. I think his "UFO excuse" is a bit far fetched and dreamed up to garner sympathy. However, like all Hackers, he will do his time for his crime.

What do the Aliens think about that?

only reason why America is so serious about him is because he wanted to find out and probably found the truth...

This has to be seen as a sad indictment on our sad ass government , after the massive favor the UK did in backing the Bush administration romp in the Middle East , they cant even get a small concession on this matter , A trial in the UK would no doubt help the struggling Brown Government .
I am so glad we have a special relationship with the US , other wise we would be treated just like any other Country .

Originally posted by stumason
From another McKinnon thread I posted in, but relevant here:

Not so bothered about this guys supposed Human Rights, wether he is an Aspergers sufferer or not, he seems cognitive to me and he committed a crime, regardless of what he was "intending" to look for and what he actually did.

His Asperger's, I think, had a lot to do with his crime. While I agree that he did intentionally commit this crime, people with Aspergers can get quite obsessive with a subject and I believe that had a lot to do with him hacking in. I do think though that his illness will have a great deal of impact on the outcome of his trial. I'm sorry they are extraditing him though because Asperger's sufferers can't take a lot of change and need sameness. I hope they pay for his mother, at least, to accompany him.

What bothers me and most I speak to about this is the blatant one-sided treatment Britain gets off the back of this extradition treaty. The US has to provide little evidence to extradite someone from the UK, just an accusation basically. Whereas the UK must provide an insurmountable burden of proof to even get an extradition hearing for a US citizen wanted for alleged crimes.

That does not bother me one little bit. Britain knew what the treaty meant when they signed it. Do you not think that Britain has very knowledgeable, professional negotiators? If anyone is angry about this treaty, they should not be angry at the U.S. they should be angry at Britain for signing it.

Oh the "crime" was committed on US soil. It was perpetrated from the UK, but where do you think the servers and what not that NASA have are located?

Yes, absolutely you are correct there. The fact that he hacked the pentagon servers is the most disturbing to me and definitely was on American soil. Perhaps they'll offer him a job? It's happened before.




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