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reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 07:27 AM by ziggy1706
ok, so all tha money was missing from the pentagon itself? talk about a HUGE breach of security!
either they were all in on it, payed everyone to do 9/11, payed bin laden more than a knigs ransom, and or used it to fund the afghansitan war, or a combination of all...the pentagon is not wallstreet...and no business anywhere looses money like that. It does happen, internally, i work in retail management, yuode be suprised at the carelessness of monsey being held sometimes, and everyone thinks its a joke! $10 missing here, $20 thier, $30 thier, ends up missing for 24 to 48 hours then magically reappears.. no one bothers to check the survelience camera in office. not even companys loss prevention team. this is a CVS, for the record. I loked on google map, and noticed very close to pentagon is acvs...makes one wonder*
they do paid out for vendors,but ften dont correct the balance form someones register... here, the petngaon lost a quadrillion times the amount, and ide like to think, its highly doubtful it was childish mishandling of money, or US bonds, or credits* obviousy if it was all on a cpomuter screen, it would be VERY hard to track,a nd over time, numbers can be altered* get my drift..
So the money is gone, tons of it, and no one cares...i cant pay af raction of that money at taax time i go to prison
the system sucks! and needs truth and change to come out, so any honest leading people will get eht job, and the dishonest ones, who have destroyed so many lives, hiding taxpayers money shuold be dealt with LEGALY and they themselves, go through the prison system process*
AUDIT THE FED!!!!


reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 08:14 AM by rickyrrr
Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman
reply to
post by Rockpuck



In the first video, at around 1:00, Rumsfeld says "We cannot track $2.3 Trillion dollars in transactions" and emphasizes the word trillion then right after that the CBS person narrating says "Trillion with a T". I think that pretty much says that they meant trillion and not billion.

But, I agree with you, you can't "lose" $2.3 trillion, you'd know where you spent it right? Even though the inspector general couldn't find it... that's pretty much the point here. Illegal funding, not appropriated by Congress, equal to at least the legally authorized defense budget.

Did you remember this story?

I don't think very many Americans do remember it...






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you are absolutely right.

what else can we expect? do you think a network of interconnected secret underground bases build themselves?

-rrr


reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 08:35 AM by soficrow
reply to post by Iamonlyhuman



S&F. Bump.

Kudos - this needs attention. No time right now, just scanned, can't comment but I'll be back.



reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 08:54 AM by Iamonlyhuman
Originally posted by Phage

One of the problems is that we don't know the timespan he's talking about. Ten years? Twenty years?
Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen today released details of President Clinton's Fiscal Year (FY) 2001 defense budget. The budget requests $291.1 billion in budget authority and $277.5 billion in outlays for the Department of Defense (DoD).

www.fas.org...


Yes, to be sure we don't know the timespan but consider this:

Budget Authority (BA) is authority granted by Congress (by law) to enter into obligations or outlays (budget outlays - BO). So, in the year you quoted the only authority they had was for the $291.1 billion by law. It would take 10 years at that rate to account for only what is unaccounted for. We know they paid staff at the pentagon and all of the military bases around the world, office supplies, maintenance items, gasoline, bought planes and such, right? We can account for that.

Now, in the CBS article, it also states that the pentagon could not account for 25% (or $2.3 trillion) of it's budget (from the Inspector General's report). If the $2.3 trillion reported here is from the authorized by law budget then the total budget would have to be $9.2 TRILLION. At the rate of your quoted annual BA ($291.1 billion) that would work out to be 31.6 YEARS. So, 25% of an annually appropriated budget of $291 billion OVER 31 1/2 years is unaccounted for. Yeah right... and nobody noticed before - even former inspectors' general? Let's assume that this is the case for the moment - that the government really doesn't know where these $$ have gone over almost 32 years - that's not simple waste - that's ABUSE. And yes, there are criminal laws that require that those responsible for waste, fraud and abuse be JAILED.

BUT, I don't think that is the case here. This is absolute evidence in my mind of the Defense Department's black budget.

Let's talk about the legalities of "black budgets". We know that, by law, Congress has to appropriate any funds used from the treasury. We also know that the only way they are legally supposed do this is by enacting laws. We have appropriations laws that specifically state that no funds will be used except as appropriated by Congress (and specifically so). We also know that all laws are public, right? IF, and that's a huge if, the Defense Department has been appropriated this budget by Congress, then Congress itself is breaking the law. On the other hand, if DoD has not been appropriated this budget through the enactment of a law, then DoD is breaking the law. So who's breaking the law? Somebody is.

Any way you choose to look at it, a law is being broken... and NO INVESTIGATION of it, at all.

All that said, we can rest assured that they do indeed know where this money went, and I also feel safe in saying that it continues to this day. Our government, although very bureaucratic and sometimes inept, did not lose this money - it was just illegally re-appropriated.





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reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 01:32 PM by ConspiracyNut23
reply to post by Iamonlyhuman



Not that it settles the matter, but in the following video, Cynthia McKinney is interviewing Donald Rumsfeld and the Pentagon's Comptroller. Ms. McKinney says the unaccounted for monies is 2.3 trillion in the '99 fiscal year and 1.1 trillion in '00 fiscal year.



Neither Mr. Rumsfeld or the comptroller questioned the numbers.


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reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 01:33 PM by Iamonlyhuman
reply to post by VonDoomen


See my reply in this post: post by Iamonlyhuman I think it answers some of your questions.

Edit to add: As far as income to DoD or any other agency, all monies received by any agency is to be handed over to the Treasury. Any money spent by any agency must, in order to be legal, be appropriated for that purpose by Congress through an appropriations bill (their budget).





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reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 01:37 PM by Libertygal
reply to post by Rockpuck



You sure can loose trillions, it's called TARP and bailout. Check it out some time.




reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 01:52 PM by Iamonlyhuman
reply to post by ConspiracyNut23

Good video. Although I don't like Cynthia McKinney and think she's usually a nutcase, she did stick to her guns with them. Unfortunately she didn't get any answers, just "we'll get back with you". I wonder if she ever did get any answers.

By the way, I think you got your numbers backwards - I think she said $1.1 trillion in '99 and $2.3 trillion in '00. That said, I can't find any evidence of the '99 $1.1 trillion anywhere... just the $2.3 trillion.


reply posted on 27-11-2009 @ 01:58 PM by ConspiracyNut23
reply to post by Iamonlyhuman


I think she said $1.1 trillion in '99 and $2.3 trillion in '00.

I double-checked and swapped the numbers. Probably while you were watching the vid.

I've seen her around but I don't know much about her. She appears to be quite the gadfly, and as you pointed out she did stick to her guns.

I can only imagine what it must be like to deal with this no-answers kind of people. I mean the comptroller couldn't even named the Pentagon's largest IT contractor off the top of her head?


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