The Dangers of Investigating Conspiracies and Cover-ups

a reply to: nomoredemsorreps

who were these guys in suits?

a reply to: infinite
Ah...bless the internet! So much out there! I think this is likely one of the most important ATS threads as it not only points the curious in some fairly significant directions but also advises them to exercise caution.

I, myself, have backed off more than once after several steps into the rabbit hole as I'm not savvy enough to do it anonymously. A few instances involved ATS members, one on this thread, in fact. Another led right into Octopus and its many players. An outside inquiry drew me into direct contact with folks involved with the Richard Tomlinson story, resulting in a rather pointed suggestion on ATS that I back off.

Why so chicken#? Take a good look at the Delmart Vreeland story (the wiki links are for introductory purposes only) to see how people get buried.

Might I also suggest that certain conspiracy sites could also serve as hothouses for alphabet agencies...planting seeds and seeing what grows?

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
a reply to: infinite
Ah...bless the internet! So much out there! I think this is lilely one of the most important ATS threads as it not only points the curious in some fairly significant directions but also advises them to exercise caution.

I, myself, have backed off more than once after several steps into the rabbit hole as I'm not savvy enough to do it anonymously. A few instances involved ATS members, one on this thread, in fact. Another led right into Octopus and its many players. An outside inquiry drew me into direct contact with folks involved with the Richard Tomlinson story, resulting in a rather pointed suggestion on ATS that I back off.

Why so chicken#? Take a good look at the Delmart Vreeland story (the wiki links are for introductory purposes only) to see how people get buried.

Might I also suggest that certain conspiracy sites could also serve as hothouses for alphabet agencies...planting seeds and seeing what grows?

Oh yeah. I have no doubts what you're saying and speaking of. And I also have no doubt that the freaking evil alphabet agencies have ops that scrape this site. After being down rabbit holes myself the last 4+ years I'd be shocked if these creeps DIDN'T monitor these conspiracy sites. But they can ki## my a##. Because if everyone speaks up, then they lose the game, and the number of people who are 'waking' up, is already overwhelming to these people. I wouldn't be surprised if their scurrying, trying to find holes to hide in.

And the fact is, for me anyway, I grew up watching WWII documentaries on WWOR, and realized very young that the reason why the Nazis succeeded is because people remained quiet. I will NOT remain quiet, now that I have finally woken up. They can do whatever, but I speak to everyone I meet, and bring up little tidbits of things I've learned, that are easily proven, like the fact that the US gov't KNEW ahead of time of the attack on Pearl Harbor (free online book in pdf titled 'FDR: My expoited father in law' by curtis dahl), and operation gladio, where the Vatican, mafia and cia combined their evil little heads to import heroin into the usa. You'd be surprised how many people will listen, if you explain it clearly and give them just enough info to raise their curiosity level.

So I make it my job to wake up at least one person a day. Don't always succeed, but I sure try. Screw 'em.

Oh yeah, one other thing I learned that is relevant to what you say. There's another conspiracy site, and I don't know if it's ok to mention it here, but it's called godlikeproductions.com. And the scuttlebutt there is that it's owned by the Tavistock Institute, which, if you've been down any rabbit holes, you don't need to be reminded of how freaking evil that organization is. It's also relevant that the home base of that site is the Island of Jersey, which is essentially a pedophile/satanic filled island under direct control of the Crown. Just do a web search on 'haute de la guerene' and the nefarious things found there, and then squelched by that paragon of evil, Queen Elizabeth...

originally posted by: Nochzwei
a reply to: nomoredemsorreps

who were these guys in suits?

I think they claimed they were secret service, but I don't remember. I think it's obvious they were 'deep-state' stepin-fetchits. It's explained on the website ahealedplanet.net

What I've found is that in all these nefarious incidents, either the FBI or CIA or secret service, or perhaps people using fake identification that they are those things, are involved in the coverup. Just look at the Franklin Scandal, where the FBI (and these guys were DEFINITELY FBI) agents harassed, and threatened numerous child victims (the freaking creeps!), and even railroaded one poor teenage girl victim of sexual assault into being convicted of perjury and she got freaking SEVENTEEN YEARS! For a crime she didn't even do, and w/o ANY history of even being arrested before! That's just what these evil bastards do. They use fear to try to manipulate people, and this is why one can't be scared. You're playing into their hands.

Same thing in 'the finders cia tallahassee', which basically was the CIA being caught CHILD TRAFFICKING and CHILD PORN operations. A truly disgusting piece, where the police started investigating these creeps they caught, and once they found proof of child trafficking and child porn the dc police got a call from the cia telling them to back off, because of, well, you know, 'national security'....SMH. You just CAN'T remain quiet when you discover these things, you know? Once they start screwing around children, they've hit my pi## off button. Only cowards prey on children.

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
a reply to: infinite
Ah...bless the internet! So much out there! I think this is lilely one of the most important ATS threads as it not only points the curious in some fairly significant directions but also advises them to exercise caution.

I, myself, have backed off more than once after several steps into the rabbit hole as I'm not savvy enough to do it anonymously. A few instances involved ATS members, one on this thread, in fact. Another led right into Octopus and its many players. An outside inquiry drew me into direct contact with folks involved with the Richard Tomlinson story, resulting in a rather pointed suggestion on ATS that I back off.

Why so chicken#? Take a good look at the Delmart Vreeland story (the wiki links are for introductory purposes only) to see how people get buried.

Might I also suggest that certain conspiracy sites could also serve as hothouses for alphabet agencies...planting seeds and seeing what grows?

And whoa. I had heard of Vreeland, but never realized the 9/11 part of it. And look, once you see someone getting 2 or 3 freaking HUNDRED YEARS for a crime, you KNOW it's a railroad job. What's the easiest way to make a whistleblower look bad? Call him a pedophile. What a freaking surprise. I will pray for him... But thanks for pointing that out...

originally posted by: nomoredemsorreps
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Huh, Sure no prob. You must have been typing in the url wrong. Can't think of any other reason...pretty amazing site, though isn't it? The experiences he talks about are just icing on the cake for me...I've known for years because of my research that the gov't was suppressing free energy. But his experiences show the world what the deep state and us gov't have been doing to stop us from getting free energy. Pi$$es me off...

Nope; wasn't typing it at all; was clicking the link in the OP and later posts on the same page. Got nothing. It looks fascinating so far, but I haven't had time to read much of it yet. Busy week. As for free energy; of course they conceal it! TOo much money to be made.

originally posted by: nomoredemsorreps
Short story. My dad worked for Grumman Aerospace his whole life, and was a project manager for the fuel systems on the lunar module. Anyway, after they killed the apollo program, my dad designed a magnetic train, that could reach speeds of 600+ MPH. And he made a presentation to his boss on the technology. Most important is that they could use the current tracks, with some cheap modifications. His boss loved the idea, and set up a meeting with senior mgmt. The day of that meeting, the TIME of the meeting, when dad walked into the meeting there were 2 guys in suits that basically demanded all of my dad's diagrams and plans, and warned everyone in the room to not discuss this ever again.

So, no trains going 500+ MPH in the USA in our lifetimes, because, well, you know, national security and all that...SMH. Freaking evil bastards...

Oh, wow.....sounds about right, though! I have always thought that anything really big, you'd better get out out to the public FAST, or they'd swoop in ans steal it, and keep it secret. Heard similar stories about other tech.

Ok. Since we're on a thread talking about being careful about researching this stuff, I came across a book, that's on google books (but also on amazon...I just bought a copy). And this book is chock full of dirt on the Bushes, MKUltra, Danny Casolaro and what he was researching ala 'the octopus' before he was suicided. And it also discusses more than a dozen other researchers who have been murdered. It's an incredible book, and I'm surprised to see on google books. Especially since google was initially funded by the cia, and I know this because I used to work for one of their competitors, and that was the scuttlebutt at the time. It's also why I rarely use google anymore, because there are indeed an evil company.

Anyway, here's the link to the book. You can actually read the whole thing online, and it is well worth it, just based on the hour or two I spent...

books.google.com...=onepage&q=the%20black%20rose%20golden%20triangle&f =false

I should add that it's rambling in parts, while in others, well, shocking is the only word that fits, because a lot of what he writes has come true, or come out (like the drug trafficking of the cia) since then. He names names and takes no prisoners, but he's obviously been seriously harassed by TPTB and it shows in the writing in parts.

Oh, and here's an incredible youtube video that discusses the globalists plan, from 1967. And what's scary is that everything that's in the video they predict has happened since then. It's long, but it's chock full of information...you should check it out...

One more thing I should have added to the magnetic train story. When the internet first happened, one of the things I did was do patent searches on stuff. And the number of patents on magnetic trains is incredible. I also discovered that there are over FIVE THOUSAND (and this was 20 years ago) patents that are 'classified'.

Just think about that. 5000 advances in technology that decades later is STILL kept from the American people, because, well, you know, 'national security'. I'm sure it has nothing to do with completely replacing the oil oligarchy, electric oligarchy, nuclear oligarchy and all the other monopolistic institutions. It's beyond disgusting what one discovers when you open your eyes...

I agree with the first post and that is related to abusive rebel occult administrations.

Many groups of human generate "implicit contracts" with fallen intelligencies, now this "contracts" do NOT have enduring relevance and this groups now that. So what they do is subconscious harassing. NOW, this activity is spiritually speaking considered illegal, that is based on the fact that you cannot suspend Universal Governing Laws, you cannot teach what you don't know and you cannot disrrupt Life Plans for personal reasons be that individual or group based ones. And here it does NOT matter where the scheme participants- promoters belong to a civilization that has been able to endure 500.000 years or 100 years these rules apply to all being who roam the earth.

Don't believe what they tell you. Be at peace with all intelligences. If they be not at peace with you, hand over the matter to the Judge and the Officer.

a reply to: infinite

Thanks for the warning, we all know what happened to Seth Rich, are you connected to WikiLeaks, you use their logo, I want to blog for WikiLeaks, no secrets, about public stuff but with a conspiracy twist:

-Alleged mass sterilizations in Kenya by the WHO disguised as tetanus vaccinations
-ZIKA alleged out of control depopulation experiment
-Honest and fair depopulation
-Regulating and constraining bigbrotheriswatchingyou
-A not manipulated Internet economy

originally posted by: TheBandit795
Strange, right now it's locking up most of the time that I click on another link on the same page.

I've been in web development since 1993, so I can recognize when either when a DOS attack is happening. If it were just an overloaded server, you would be able to at least see the site but it would be slow. A Denial of Service attack makes seeing the page impossible.

So I wouldn't be surprised at all, based on the contents of those pages, and the author's credibility and experiences with free-energy, that TPTB have them on their $hitlist of sites to continually hit. It's too bad, because if I could get in touch with him I could show him how to stop that kind of thing from happening....

Hi, this might not be the place to post this, but the New Thread button doesn't work, all I get is a blank screen. I've had a lot of high profile visitors to my personal blog motormouth.silvrback.com

I can't get the attachment function to work, are these visitors common blog visitors to any of your personal blogs?

Daimler Ag - German multinational automotive corporation
Ashland Inc - An American Fortune 500 Company - Specialty Chemical Company
USAISC - United States Army Information System Command Headquarters
American Express Company
Apple Inc
754th Electronic Systems Group - The organization provides technical and customer service support as well as acquisition and program management oversight of over 160 Combat Support Information Technology (IT) systems. 754 ELSG also manages the Air Force standard desktop environment, and serves as the USAF lead for software program management under the auspices of the DoD Enterprise Software Initiative.
Credit Suisse Group / Cana
E.on Sverige AB
Graafschap College
Halliburton Company - An American multinational corporation - one of the world's largest oil field services companies, with operations in more than 80 countries.
Hewlett-Packard Company
Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting - formerly called the National Iranian Radio and Television
Izaak Walton Killam Health Centre - The IWK Health Centre provides quality care to women, children, youth and families in the Maritime provinces and beyond
MIT
Max Planck Institute for Physics
Merck and co. Inc
Norges bank
Rochester Gas and Electric Corporation
Safety-Kleen Systems, Inc. is a company that provides services such as collecting and recycling oil, providing industrial cleaning, and handling industrial waste.
SITA - Airlines cooperative (Societe Internationale de Telecommunications Aeronautiques
Sociedad de ingenieros de bolivia departmental santa cruz
Societe internationale de telecommunications aeronautiques
Prudential Financial, Inc. is an American Fortune Global 500 and Fortune 500 company whose subsidiaries provide insurance, investment management, and other financial products and services to both retail and institutional customers throughout the United States and in over 30 other countries
Unisource Worldwide, Inc. is a distributor of printing paper, packaging equipment and supplies, and facility maintenance equipment and supplies.
University College London
University of Missouri - Kansas City
Wal-mart Stores Inc
Wells Fargo & Company is an American international banking and financial services holding company headquartered in San Francisco, California, with "hubquarters" throughout the country.
Willis North America, Inc. provides risk management, insurance brokerage, and related risk services to customers in various industrial and client segments in the United States and Canada.
Xerox Corporation
Yeshiva University

a reply to: Manak58

Chill out, you've just created an account and simply can't author threads as of yet. Try the freshman section, open an introduction or simply get more than 20 posts or something.

Also, you might confuse real persons with various bots running wild in this internetz. This right here might be usefull for you.

And welcome to your final destination, ATSlien!

originally posted by: Manak58
Hi, this might not be the place to post this, but the New Thread button doesn't work, all I get is a blank screen. I've had a lot of high profile visitors to my personal blog motormouth.silvrback.com

I can't get the attachment function to work, are these visitors common blog visitors to any of your personal blogs?

Daimler Ag - German multinational automotive corporation
Ashland Inc - An American Fortune 500 Company - Specialty Chemical Company
USAISC - United States Army Information System Command Headquarters
American Express Company
Apple Inc
754th Electronic Systems Group - The organization provides technical and customer service support as well as acquisition and program management oversight of over 160 Combat Support Information Technology (IT) systems. 754 ELSG also manages the Air Force standard desktop environment, and serves as the USAF lead for software program management under the auspices of the DoD Enterprise Software Initiative.
Credit Suisse Group / Cana
E.on Sverige AB
Graafschap College
Halliburton Company - An American multinational corporation - one of the world's largest oil field services companies, with operations in more than 80 countries.
Hewlett-Packard Company
Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting - formerly called the National Iranian Radio and Television
Izaak Walton Killam Health Centre - The IWK Health Centre provides quality care to women, children, youth and families in the Maritime provinces and beyond
MIT
Max Planck Institute for Physics
Merck and co. Inc
Norges bank
Rochester Gas and Electric Corporation
Safety-Kleen Systems, Inc. is a company that provides services such as collecting and recycling oil, providing industrial cleaning, and handling industrial waste.
SITA - Airlines cooperative (Societe Internationale de Telecommunications Aeronautiques
Sociedad de ingenieros de bolivia departmental santa cruz
Societe internationale de telecommunications aeronautiques
Prudential Financial, Inc. is an American Fortune Global 500 and Fortune 500 company whose subsidiaries provide insurance, investment management, and other financial products and services to both retail and institutional customers throughout the United States and in over 30 other countries
Unisource Worldwide, Inc. is a distributor of printing paper, packaging equipment and supplies, and facility maintenance equipment and supplies.
University College London
University of Missouri - Kansas City
Wal-mart Stores Inc
Wells Fargo & Company is an American international banking and financial services holding company headquartered in San Francisco, California, with "hubquarters" throughout the country.
Willis North America, Inc. provides risk management, insurance brokerage, and related risk services to customers in various industrial and client segments in the United States and Canada.
Xerox Corporation
Yeshiva University

Ya know, nobody could possibly answer your question if you don't explain to us what the blog is about...

forgottenlanguages-full.forgottenlanguages.org is technically a secret society. I know they like doxxing people and showing up at places of work if you anger them. Which is actually very silly considering it's all a hoax as can be seen here: remembered-languages.blogspot.com

Who cares, most of the things done are done to scare the public in general to keep most people away from pursuing any real information.

Well OP, here's my story.

The last mundane conspiracy I uncovered at my work (Big Telecom) before I was terminated involved a presidential executive order (EO13618), the FCC, 47CFRPart64, FBI, DHS and about 5 layers of corporate management to the EVP level. See also 18USC371 : conspiracy to defraud the United States. I protected myself really well. When you are playing in a crooked game of poker you must have the Aces.

But that didn't stop the 2 years of retaliation at work from my immediate supervisors. They were under orders to keep me agitated. I sympathize with them a little because they were only trying to save their own jobs. The middle managers were using them as retaliation agents against me. It seems that I might have embarrassed a middle-level director or regional VP somewhere in (Big Telecom).

So after 12 months of agitating me with poor performance reports they finally fired me on an attendance technicality. What did I do so awful that they terminated me? I had 1 tardy in 6 months... 25 year career over.

Starting over aint so bad. My daily stress levels have gone down 90% over the last 14 months. I have more time to write a screen play about it (the conspiracy) with an outlook of (hopefully) getting it made into a movie (indie, micro budget, 59 minute feature).

And when I finally make that movie... it will be promoted as "based on a true story"... because I have all the goods on them.

a reply to: TheBandit795

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