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Originally posted by randyvs
Most definetly Satan is the deciever on the grand scale of things.
Aren't you ever afraid he has decieved you, into writing a thread here
on this site before God and Man. A thread that questions the authority of Gods word.Do I really have to tell you that there is actually far more chance that you are the victim of deception here?
It still comes down to "know a good tree by its fruit and a bad tree by its fruit".
If the Koran teaches death and destruction then obviously it is not holy word. If it makes you feel tingly inside and inspires you to turn from sin then it is inspired by holiness.
It doesn't boil down to what the books say. It all comes down to what they produce(man's actions).
Originally posted by iamcamouflage
How can you be sure that the Bible was not inspired by Satan? How can you know that the Pagan religion was not the one true religion and then Satan came to earth as Jesus, inspired man to write the Bible to convince humanity to worship a false prophet?
Try not to use the Bible as a reference because, if the Bible was inspired by Satan then it could not be used as a source to prove that Satan did not inspire it.
Is it unreasonable to believe that Christianity is the devils greatest deception? And how could you know whether it was or not? If Satan is able to deceive, how can you know that you are not being deceived into believing and worshiping a religion that is actually inspired by Satan?
Interesting theory, i've always found religious texts to be questionable myself. Especially when people do nothing but blindly believe in a book that was written many many years ago.
I think core paganism was the (or close to) the original religion, simply because a lot, and i mean a hell of a lot of religions have adopted paganism into thier own.
It doesn't boil down to what the books say. It all comes down to what they produce(man's actions).
Originally posted by iamcamouflage
How can you be sure that the Bible was not inspired by Satan? How can you know that the Pagan religion was not the one true religion and then Satan came to earth as Jesus, inspired man to write the Bible to convince humanity to worship a false prophet?
Try not to use the Bible as a reference because, if the Bible was inspired by Satan then it could not be used as a source to prove that Satan did not inspire it.
Is it unreasonable to believe that Christianity is the devils greatest deception? And how could you know whether it was or not? If Satan is able to deceive, how can you know that you are not being deceived into believing and worshiping a religion that is actually inspired by Satan?
Originally posted by dusty1
reply to post by iamcamouflage
I'm glad you got the Billy Madison referrence. I thought it was funny and meant no insult to you personally. You are an unbeliever, and you are goading believers into a debate about the Bible, without allowing them to use the Bible. That is why I used the quote.
Originally posted by Dookzor
Originally posted by dusty1
reply to post by iamcamouflage
I'm glad you got the Billy Madison referrence. I thought it was funny and meant no insult to you personally. You are an unbeliever, and you are goading believers into a debate about the Bible, without allowing them to use the Bible. That is why I used the quote.
Why is the OP seen as "goading"? He was merely trying to discuss a possibility, the fact that he doesn't believe doesn't factor into the equation and is moot.
The obtuse circular logic of some people astounds me.
Originally posted by iamcamouflage
reply to post by Agree2Disagree
It doesn't boil down to what the books say. It all comes down to what they produce(man's actions).
Are you aware of the many atrocities that have been committed in the name of the bible, god and religion? If it doesnt matter what the books say and only the impact on the actions of men, then I would argue that the bible was written by the devil and is an evil book.
I do not believe that and I feel that the content of a book or beliefs is MUCH, MUCH more important than the actions it creates.
Originally posted by TarzanBeta
This is simply borderline offensive.
How many times must you idiots be told -- ANY THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF NUMBERS OF THINGS can be used as an excuse to DO SOMETHING.
Originally posted by Dookzor
reply to post by TarzanBeta
More circular logic.
If "Satan" truely wanted to subvert the attentions of man away from the true "God", wouldn't it be prudent to falsify accounts and misrepresent himself? The way I see it, the best way to manipulate a situation is to do it from a standpoint where your meddlings will remain undetected.
What better way to do that then to give those inclined to believe in "God" and "Satan" a false view of what those entities are?
I'd also like to add that I am completely undecided as to the existence of God and I am not coming at this discussion from a non-believers standpoint. My personal journey demands that I try to see both sides of the argument and in this case, feel many believers are being unecessarily defensive.
Edit: I'd also like to add that for a "Christian", you're remarkably unforgiving and abrasive, TarzanBeta.
[edit on 26-11-2009 by Dookzor]
Originally posted by Dookzor
Originally posted by TarzanBeta
This is simply borderline offensive.
How many times must you idiots be told -- ANY THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF NUMBERS OF THINGS can be used as an excuse to DO SOMETHING.
Do you really not see the hypocrisy in your own posts?!
Please, remind me what exactly it is a Christian is supposed to be and then relate it to your own ATS persona.
Do you still not understand why people are so critical of your religion/you?!