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How many Black People believe in conspiracies ?

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posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by stanlee
reply to post by buds84
 


-OMFG...... you did not just say that..

-You want to try again?

-IDIOT! STUDY YOUR HISTORY.

-Gods I hate when stupid people read something on WIKIPEDIA and think its the gospel. I bet you take Bob Larson seriously dont you!?

-its the idiot minority of the followers that say crap like that

-and whats sad is most of the bullox you are vomitting at us is pure unadulterated idiocy at its best.

-you are the paradigm of stupidity, and honestly I think if you ever broke the law, it would be defended under a mental incompetence defence in armed robbery with a stapler.

-that was more retarded than the people that think they either are aliens or talk to them.

-seriously.. go back with the godhatesf*gs.commers and protest homosxuals being interned or something just as ignorant.

-Hey moron.. first of all stop lying about your job.. engineer. the only thing you engineer are bullox stories of madness you piece together from youtube.

-HAVE YOU THE BRAIN WORMS!!??

-kick back with your you tube, and tooth paste in mums basement mate... and keep throwing this... (I dont even know what to call it) out here.

...

I can't believe I responded to this.

Did a human being just type this?

You sound just like your slave master daddy.

[edit on 26-11-2009 by buds84]




posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 03:14 PM
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All the black people I know are big conspiracy buffs- they know all about "The Man". It would seem that they are some of the biggest victims of conspiracy or at least the ones I know like to point that out.
A black man actually brought to light the realities of Conspiracy for me. He was a Navy doctor who was hanging out with my family (trying to get to know my aunt a little better) and we got to talking and he told me,"Don't believe any of that crap about AIDS- we've had a cure for years- it's just too expensive to mass produce."
I of course assume it could have just been the wild ramblings of a paranoid mind now but at the time it sure seemed like a scary truth especially coming from the mouth of a doctor (this was in the early nineties when I was barely out of my teenage years).
My point is, that conspiracy crosses cultures and skin tones. All are affected by it and many suffer because of it.



posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 03:31 PM
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Why would it matter if your black or white? A Conspiracy is a conspiracy.

for the record i am black. Jamaican and British decent that lives in Toronto,Ontario area.



posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 04:07 PM
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That black guy from PE or NWA or whatever is DEEP into it.
He's a hard core 911 Truther = good job rapper/DJ guy.

What's his name???



posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 04:24 PM
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Of course black people believe in conspiracies. They even have a secret network of agents working to bring down The Man. Haven't you heard of Undercover Brother?




posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by TheComte
Of course black people believe in conspiracies. They even have a secret network of agents working to bring down The Man. Haven't you heard of Undercover Brother?



LOL!


Right on brother!



posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by buds84

The punishmet/curse is almost over as timed. (fun fact: also the Mayans are also Israelites thats why they wrote in ancient Hebrew, knew about Mosses and had a calender but T.V won't tell you that. here)


Right, before I get started on anything else you've stated in that post with zero supporting evidence, I want to start here with the only link you gave to support your wild claims. Virtually all of it is horribly, horribly wrong and probably intentionally fabricated.

Firstly, Chichen Itza is not in Guatemala, it's in the Yucatn, Mexico. Believe me, I've been there several times. This map seems to agree surprisingly:



Secondly, the phonetics are wrong (I wonder why). I had this drilled into me by a descendant of the Mayans who grew up outside of the commercial areas and spoke Mayan as a first language and learnt Spanish and English later on in life. Let's break it down, "Chi" is pronounced extremely harshly like saying the word "Chimney" very rapidly but cutting off before you hit the 'i' and clicking your tongue - it's closer to just "Ch" really.

"Chen" is the equivalent of two syllables, the first similar to the "Chi" part except extended a fraction more and not as harsh so you hear a slight "ee" on the tail. The "en" part is simpler and sounds like "ehn". When putting it all together it's worth mentioning the syllables again, Mayan bears little resemblance to English (and most other "modern" languages on the planet for that matter), and the timing of pauses between each segment are important. So it will sound something like "Ch--che-ehn", with the longest pause after the "Ch" and a smaller one afterwards.

It's very difficult to describe, I'm not a linguist so I apologise if that wasn't clear but it's very different to how many Mexicans who speak Spanish as a first language pronounce it, let alone English. Both of the latter languages use two syllables which is incorrect. Why not go to the jungles in the Yucatan and hear it spoken firsthand? I've done a fair amount of travelling and it's easily the most "alien" language I have ever heard.

Thirdly the "Popol Vuh" the .pdf references was heavily distorted by Christian invaders in an attempt to convert them to their faith. It cannot be taken as gospel (pardon, maybe that's the problem - it can be
).

I could go on but I really don't think there's much point in dissecting such a rediculous piece of writing in that pdf which we are supposed to take seriously, written by and I quote, "We, modern students of the ancient Maya". Really? Yet you don't even know which country Chichen Itza is in!



Originally posted by buds84
From Dinosaurs to Jesus to Egypt, everything white people can get their hands on they painted white.

I actually find this quite offensive, all white people do that in general, do they? Do you have any idea about ancient British history for example? Patently not, it was basically erased from history in the name of Abrahamic religion. White people have suffered greatly at the hands of other whites, it could even be argued that they suffered first before expansion. Did you know that some scholars believe that the book of Enoch was written after he visited what is now known as Europe, and the angel Uriel was in fact of the "Grooved Ware People" who built the original sites many of the megalithic monuments now sit on?

There's actually a fair amount of evidence that supports this theory, one of the main ones being a unit of measurement dubbed the "megalithic yard". This is described in detail in the book of Enoch and is quantifiable. Where it gets really weird is where this standardised unit is found to be in use in all of the ancient sites and monuments throughout the British Isles. It's not too hard to calculate either, you can try it yourself with basic astronomical knowledge and a couple of poles. It also integrates the Pi formula seamlessly, stunning stuff with a basis in scientific theory which has been published in journals. Here is an example: www.jstor.org....

[edit on 26-11-2009 by Goathief]



posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 07:15 PM
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as a proud black woman, yes i do believe in conspiracies.



posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 07:41 PM
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I'm not interested in debating if what I claim is wrong or right, I was just making a short break down of true history.


However if you are interested in hours of information you can go back to my 2nd post here www.abovetopsecret.com...

in the youtube channel links I posted, the people there pull out many books by scholars in front the camera and read out evidence and pictures to support what I'm saying and they tell you where you can get the books, some books written by "Jewish" scholars.

If you go through the videos/books and disagree with what they say then feel free to U2U me and debate,
I'm just not interested in debating parts of history with people that haven't read through proper books on this topic thread.
Neither am I interested in the typical "youtube doesn't count as proof".
As you probably know, the typical ATS skeptic excuse is "bring evidence to my front door right now or it's not true" which is rather old.
The old "I never heard of this so it must be a lie" thing is also rather stale on these forums also.

btw there are so many pictures of ancient Israelites around I hope you didn't go to school for History since you don't know what they look like.
sarabe3.tripod.com...
Negros, Natives, Hispanics. And I'm not basing my claims from pictures.

P.S I'm not trying to take away history from white people, but sometimes it's good to read history told from the losers side and compare, theres too much evidence out there showing ruling whites had grossly exaggerated their ruling timeline.
As expected, if any of us were in the ruling class today, none of us would be stupid enough to teach the achievements of the losing race/class in our schools that we payed for.

[edit on 26-11-2009 by buds84]



posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 08:02 PM
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no. you're posting retarded entertainment links and vomitting out how much an arse you are. By the by.... LOL nice response.. go back to the x box
Im curious. whats next there buds. Santa is a jewish goblin from Nibiru and we all got it wrong, hes not on flying reindeer, its really lizards piloting a death star so santa can deliver weapons of mass destruction to the black children who fight against whities tyranny? or are you going to tell me that it ironic I have a green alien holding an its a boy sign now? LMFAO



[edit on 26-11-2009 by stanlee]



posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by stanlee
reply to post by buds84
 


no. you're posting retarded entertainment links and vomitting out how much an arse you are. By the by.... LOL nice response.. go back to the x box
Im curious. whats next there buds. Santa is a jewish goblin from Nibiru and we all got it wrong, hes not on flying reindeer, its really lizards piloting a death star so santa can deliver weapons of mass destruction to the black children who fight against whities tyranny? or are you going to tell me that it ironic I have a green alien holding an its a boy sign now? LMFAO



[edit on 26-11-2009 by stanlee]


Is this teen aged nonsense really acceptable on ATS?

Shouldn't you be on the Warcraft forums chatting with the similar I.Q. leveled children?



posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 08:18 PM
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I'd be willing to bet that the ratio of black people who are interested in conspiracy theories is in direct proportion to the ratio of the population that is black.

[edit on 26-11-2009 by badgerprints]



posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 08:22 PM
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ok seriously.. you need to learn how to argue without rewording what someone else has just said. so basically you mistook all that crap you were spewing out because you didnt listen to the "WHAT IF" part.

Either way, you clearly cannot defend yourself properly anymore than you can your..... views.. or whatever they are, so.. yea.. go ahead and reword everything I just said and repost it. I love it when you do this because its here for everyone to read. you're a weak minded you tube researching jobless geek in mums basement with shoddy ideas,and no ability to defend these propostorous claims of blacks being the original slave owners. Take it easy David Duke. I think I've proven my point, and bid you a D20 farewell +3 Vs feebleminds



posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by buds84
reply to post by Goathief
 


I'm not interested in debating if what I claim is wrong or right

Meaning you're ignorant and refuse to listen to or even entertain a different point of view? I at least extended that courtesy to you and showed you exactly why a large chunk of it is flat out wrong.


I was just making a short break down of true history.

True? You've posted no supporting evidence at all really, have you? Well, apart from a irrefutably fraudulent .pdf which claims Chichen Itza is actually in Guatamala for starters - are you still going to boldly claim that it is in fact located there?


However if you are interested in hours of information you can go back to my 2nd post here www.abovetopsecret.com...

in the youtube channel links I posted, the people there pull out many books by scholars in front the camera and read out evidence and pictures to support what I'm saying and they tell you where you can get the books, some books written by "Jewish" scholars.

Before I address the links in the post you referred me to, let's talk about your "Jewish" scholars. The ones you are talking about aren't really scholars at all, there are no publishings in peer-reviewed journals, no serious studies undertaken and there certainly is an agenda. These same "Jewish scholars" are the ones who wrote the aforementioned .pdf on the Mayans aren't they? Let's take a look at the website which hosts that file: www.noahsark-naxuan.com....


June 11, 2007 Mayan Moses (Referring to the .pdf)

Did you know that other cultures recorded the awesome, Red Sea Crossing: people as diverse as the Maya and the Egyptians? It is true, and this story gives more meaning and awe to the majesty and power of Yahweh the mighty one of Israel. This event, seen through the eyes of people other than the Israelites should give the naysayers pause.


Now would you call that an unbiased source? Even without reading the piece I certainly wouldn't, just look at the inflammatory wording. I've already shown how the document in question is very wrong so we shall move on to something that actually ties into the OP's question, ie; conspiracies in other cultures/races.


If you go through the videos/books and disagree with what they say then feel free to U2U me and debate

I'd prefer to do it here thanks as it's important information (why are you allowed to preach without being questioned?) which is now becoming very relevant to the thread.


Negros, Natives, Hispanics. And I'm not basing my claims from pictures.


I added the emphasis because this is what it's really about isn't it? The destruction of the 'white man' and the fulfilling of prophecy (interesting that you didn't include Asians either). Here is the first video I chose at random from your youtube links:




Africans and Arabs sold the Israelites, we are not African



Other nations and the so called 'white man' will be joined with the children of Israel, but how?
/snip (bible quote)
The Israelites are going to take them, meaning enslave them, and bring them back to their place where they will build the kingdom (and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the lord)



So you want to know about the fate of the so called 'white man'? They are going to captivity, that's what is going to happen! That's the true power, that's a just power. We serve a righteous power!


You are advocating this racist hate as the true history of the world and what shall befall it? What we have here is a (weak) conspiracy that involves religion, history, minorities in America and excludes white people. So yes OP, there are plenty of black people who believe in conspiracies - most would be the same ones we are used to but there are some like the one buds84 is promoting which are very different as you can see. The irony is not lost on me that a large chunk of the public are fearful of Islam and perceived threat of Sharia law (a conspiracy in itself), yet blissfully unaware of the endorsement and encouragement of white slavery being preached on the streets as we type by Israelites.

Is this why you wanted it kept in U2U buds?



posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 09:05 PM
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That link you posted is not from the users upload that I linked.
Learn to navigate youtube.

Dont go through their favorites, look in their "Uploads".

And if you trying to tell me no part of history was based on raciest hate then you must be really kidding yourself.



posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 09:06 PM
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Oh and I just notice you've edited this post:

Originally posted by buds84

/SNIP - long rant about the "true" history of the world removed

(no offense to white individuals)

[edit on 26-11-2009 by buds84]


Interesting when people such as myself begin to pick at your ultimate 'truth' you edit in the 'no offence' bit. It certainly wasn't there to begin with.



posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by buds84
That link you posted is not from the users upload that I linked.
Learn to navigate youtube.

Dont go through their favorites, look in their "Uploads".

And if you trying to tell me no part of history was based on raciest hate then you must be really kidding yourself.


Answer this, are these people stating the same things you have throughout this thread and associated with the same user? Do you agree and believe them? Do you believe the bible to be 100% accurate? If not, where isn't it?

Also, racism in history is just that, history.

Now address my large post above in it's entirety as well instead of focusing on one video contained in it which you linked me to.

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posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 09:54 PM
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Hilarious question! Answer: all o' d'em cuz whitey did it!



posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 10:46 PM
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Originally posted by Goathief

Do you believe the bible to be 100% accurate? If not, where isn't it?

Yes I believe the events in the bible to be real, lots of the evens of the bible can be traced in Egypt and Middle East through artifacts and pyramid walls, rome, ect.
I thought it was common knowledge many of the events in the bible did happen and been "scientifically" traced?

Have you even read the Bible?



Now address my large post above in it's entirety as well instead of focusing on one video contained in it which you linked me to.



Your whole large post is negated because you forgot to read the part of the [url=http://www.noahsark-naxuan.com/PR/MAYAN%20MOSES1.pdf]_/url] thats says.

The Great Parting of the Sea as an historic event.
Here in the Mayan histories we have an entirely outside and legitimate account of the miraculous and otherwise “biblical” event of Yahweh’s great power and majesty. This is not a case of Catholic priestly embroidering of Mayan neophites into the “authorized” catholic version of biblical knowledge. Not at all. The Mayan record is written in the ancient Old World language of the Maya, unbeknownst to the Catholic religion spreaders. In fact, many old world “Hebrew” documents were destroyed by these conquering zealots such as the book-burning Bartholomo de Las Casas of the “Casa Santa” ( Roman Catholic inquisition ). These books even included “Hebrew looking” writing according to some priests of the conquest era, and it is sure that Catholic priests were schooled in Hebrew.

The Mayans already knew about Mosses and biblical laws and customs before white people got to them, they had it carved in stone.
Even National Geographic covered that already a while back.

When I said I wasn't interested in "debating", what I really meant was I'm not interested in teaching.

P.S that video link you posted was not what I linked you went looking for something else. I don't know where you got that from.

anyways come back when you actually read the Bible with apocrypha.



posted on Nov, 26 2009 @ 11:02 PM
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I grew up with a black guy who's now homeless but claims he's a hitman for the masons and that he secretly has a hidden home with a Bentley. I will try my best to find him, interview him, and either post a video or audio recording of the event (assuming he agrees.)



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