im sure that 50 year old study is still relevatn with 2009.

This is a great thread!!! Thanks!!!.......

I started statins about 30 days ago and stopped a week ago as the side effects are just too much.....Did some research into natural cholesterol reducing and found Profibe - a product that I read claims a 92% "success" rate. I'm waiting delivery of this stuff and wonder if anyone has any experience with it or other "natural" solutions toward maintaining "good" cholesterol levels..........

Thanks!!!

Great post Dev!

Some points i wanted to bring up,

The cause of heart disease and clogged arteries actually seems to be the so called heart healthy oils they push now a days(corn, soy, rapeseed, olive etc.). Due to the nature of unsaturated fat it is easily oxidized in the presence of heat or light exposure and because of this basically every vegetable oil you get the store(except for a few) will be oxidized/rancid. There is a definite correlation between the rise in heart disease and the use of vegetable oils. The fat in clogged arteries is actually only 20% saturated the other portion being primarily poly unsaturated.

Another issue is the fact that essentially every mammal on earth derives the majority of their energy from saturated fats (short chain fatty acids via gut fermentation). Why do these animals experience no problems??

My last point, short chain and medium chain fatty acids, the first one is always saturated and you produce it in your gut, are probably the best surce of energy available to animals. They instantly are absorbed when eaten and require to bile like glucose(they are actually more similar to glucose then long chain fatty acids) but they produce 441 ATP per molecule vs 38 ATP per glucose molecule. That is pretty damn significant.

It's the polyunsaturated vegetable oils (except omega 3) that are causing most of the damage. Of course, olive oil, made of oleic acid, has a low smoke point so cooking with it is not a great idea.

The point I made in the OP is that olive oil is not a miracle oil and that it was simply used as a way to solve a paradox.

I mean, if there is one oil I could have in my cupboard....it would be coconut oil. Hands Down.

-Dev

I would think that the high level of flouride in our water would be the cause of many of the increased health problems in America.

I will stick to my liquor thank you very much.

Fox

Originally posted by DevolutionEvolvd
it would be coconut oil.

-Dev

No doubt, the stuff is awesome!

I was on statins several years ago and I quit them due to the side effects. After my own study of the subject I have concluded they are just a way for the drug companies to make money.

If a person is worried about cholesterol, which I am not, you can simply eat a pink grapefruit daily and for extra measure swallow a little of the fluffy white stuff inside the peel.

I had a good friend who was a pathologist/toxicologist, was the good laboratory practices czar for Bristol Meyers Squibb, later ran his own drug testing laboratory and did long term studies for every major drug company.
He told me in his later years that he ascribed the bulk of the health problems he ever had to "allopathic medicine". When he was diagnosed with cancer and given 6 months to live almost 20 years ago he told his oncologist who wanted him to start some chemo-therapy drug "I tested that stuff and saw what it did to animals, if you think you are going to use it on me you are crazy". He cured the cancer with megadose IV sodium ascorbate (vitamin C) 50 grams a day for two weeks. He told me a lump the size of a golf ball on his neck went away and skin cancers turned white, dried up and fell off. He was a "Big-Pharma" insider and became a proponent of natural and alternative therapies. He told me that any treatment for any disease that does not have the possibility of big money for the pharmaceutical industry will be suppressed and labeled quackery no matter how safe and effective it is.