The FDIC Reserve Is Gone., page 1
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Topic started on 25-11-2009 @ 12:41 AM by loam




The FDIC Reserve Is Gone.

The cash reserves needed for the FDIC to keep paying depositors at failed banks has all been used up. Don't panic (yet anyways), the FDIC has an open credit line to the Treasury Department (uh, that means us tax payers) that will keep the FDIC floating in cash to keep paying out money to Grandma and Grandpa at the failed banks.

You see, the FDIC is supposed to be self maintaining, it charges banks a fee to have their deposits insured. Think of it as the banks paying an insurance premium. That money goes into the FDIC kitty and is used to pay depositors when a bank fails. That is all well and good except when the financial system blows up like it has over the past 2 years.

As of today's quarterly report issued by the FDIC they are now broke, and I mean that in the literal sense.

FDIC deposit insurance fund now -$8.2B v $10.4B last quarter

Yep, they are broke, no money left in the cash drawer. So what now? As long as the FDIC has an open credit line with the Treasury then any bank that fails it will be the taxpayers who reimburse Grandma and Grandpa.

Think of it this way: you have a checking account at (let's pick a name out of the air) #tyBank and they get closed by the FDIC. Your very own money will be reimbursed to you via the FDIC insurance fund, but you will actually be paying yourself back in part because taxpayers will be on the hook to keep the FDIC floating in funds. So in the end you still lose some money.



The is no shortage of bad financial news, is there?

See also: FDIC insurance fund closes quarter $8.2 billion in debt

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reply posted on 25-11-2009 @ 04:18 AM by St Udio
reply to post by loam



Just a month or so ago, the woman in charge of such things for the Gov't told the thousands of Banks in the U.S. that they will be Pre-Paying their FDIC dues to the year 2013.

Of course, as you say in the OP, the FDIC has a 'always open' loan-window from which to fund itself. So, when your bank 'goes under' the funds will will be there to reimburse your account...
but in the future it could take weeks-months-years(perhaps) until you get your money back in-full


ADD:

here's the info & a link, btw it was Sheila Blair with this 'radical' solution


FDIC Expected to Ask Banks to Prepay $36B in Fees -
ABC News

It would be the first time the FDIC has required prepaid insurance fees. Under the plan, banks would have to pay in advance their insurance premiums for 2010-2012, bringing in ...


www.abcnews.go.com...


sorry, i had to nap for a spell



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reply posted on 25-11-2009 @ 04:48 AM by Lunatyx
Originally posted by ziggy1706
Has the FDIC ever gone bankrupt before? Or is this the first time?


It happened before in 1992 ->
www.finreg21.com...

And another interesting fact is that the dollar hit a new low against the euro today, at this moment 1eur = 1,5029$.

Gold hit a new high today - 1 ounce is now 1180$

It`s not looking good, seems like another bubble is going to burst in the near future. My guess is that it will happen just after the holidays when companies start publishing reports about their final quarter sales...



reply posted on 25-11-2009 @ 06:26 AM by j2000
The Govt. has let the banks not pay in for a long time and keep the profits.
More Coruption. Pull your money and let them fail.

bloomberg.com

By and large, the government's insurance system worked until the 1980s, when thrifts went on a commercial real estate lending binge, triggering a wave of failures and consolidation that lasted from 1984 to 1992.

In 1991, Congress changed the way FDIC premiums were assessed, requiring banks to pay rates based on how well capitalized they were for the risks they faced. As bank failures subsided to less than a dozen a year by 1995, the FDIC's reserves began to swell.

As a result, the agency cut to zero the premiums it charged to the 90 percent of the banks deemed safest. That free ride continued for 10 years.



reply posted on 25-11-2009 @ 11:45 AM by conspiracyrus
reply to post by reasonable



Everything you just said .... sounds like wishful thinking,

China doesn't want our debt anymore

GOP seems to be on the rise

and Health care spending hasn't even begun yet

I think you should take some time to get a grip


reply posted on 25-11-2009 @ 11:59 AM by loam
reply to post by reasonable



Sounds like lots of Kool-Aid to me... I heard similar arguments about the real estate market and sub-prime loans....

Our next colossal mistake on the horizon:

The Gold Bubble and Wiemar-style Trillion-percent Inflation.

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reply posted on 25-11-2009 @ 02:10 PM by jimmyjohen
reply to post by conspiracyrus



You bordering on fear-mongering.

It doesn't matter if China wants our debt or not. They own it. It is in their best interest to see US through and not go bankrupt.


reply posted on 25-11-2009 @ 02:14 PM by conspiracyrus
reply to post by jimmyjohen



Im addressing another poster thank you.... fear mongering? shut it they no longer buy our debt they dont want anymore of it .... you sir should not type so hastily


reply posted on 25-11-2009 @ 02:21 PM by jimmyjohen
reply to post by conspiracyrus



Reply hastily?

My post was in context. The point I was trying to make is that even though they don't want anymore of our debt, they still own a huge chunk.

It is in their best interest to see us through so they don't lose out.

That's my point.

Read Reasonable's post and read yours. You were the one out of context. You should stop typing so hastily.

Thank you for your time.



reply posted on 25-11-2009 @ 02:31 PM by conspiracyrus
reply to post by jimmyjohen



there's nothing out of context at all about my post ... i say china doesn't want our debt anymore ... they cut their losses they will spend no more on our debt.... so yeah once again you are a bit out of line here

economictimes.indiatimes.com...

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reply posted on 25-11-2009 @ 02:49 PM by conspiracyrus
reply to post by DaddyBare



good speculation... as the FDIC is required to reimburse all depositors, if the banks don't have any money ... and the FDIC doesn't have any money.... the closed bank isnt responsible the FDIC is...
star for you

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