The Davis-Monthan AFB UFO Incident -1952

Originally posted by 2000 Yards
At the moment, we don't have any conclusion to which we can jump.

No, but we can use deductive reasoning to eliminate certain hypotheses in specific cases - Atmospherical Physicist Dr James E. Mcdonald makes a good point about it here.

There are also quite a few incidents involving unknown objects which seemingly defy the known laws of aeronautics - British Detective Constable Gary Heseltine from PRUFOS makes an interesting statement about flight characteristics below:

"There are some definite flight type characteristics that are seen now that I would say represent genuine UFOs...ie: instant acceleration; instant stop; vertical acceleration -up into the air and down to the ground; reverses in direction; right angle turns -all in silence -multiple objects sometimes separating and then going back into each other.
They are classic,what I would call,genuine UFO characteristics -things that we can not do in a conventional sense".

British Detective Constable Gary Heseltine - Police UFO reporting organisation, PRUFOS

I don't think anyone on these boards knows for sure what these objects are but if they're not natural phenomena, hoaxes, delusions or man-made aircraft then what the hell are they?

One things for sure, mainstream science needs to start treating the UFO subject a great deal more seriously than it currently is - they also need to alter the way scientists are exposed to UFO evidence.

"Most scientists have never had the occasion to confront evidence concerning the UFO phenomenon. To a scientist, the main source of hard information (other than his own experiments' observations) is provided by the scientific journals. With rare exceptions, scientific journals do not publish reports of UFO observations. The decision not to publish is made by the editor acting on the advice of reviewers. This process is self-reinforcing: the apparent lack of data confirms the view that there is nothing to the UFO phenomenon, and this view (prejudice) works against the presentation of relevant data."

Peter A. Sturrock, "An Analysis of the Condon Report on the Colorado UFO Project," Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol.1, No.1, 1987

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Cheers.

[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]

Originally posted by jkrog08
I was reading a recent thread where someone stated that they were starting to believe all the skeptical explanations of UFOs, pretty much because disclosure hasn't happened yet.
The thing is that people don't realize what real ufology is, it isn't all the Wilcox disclosure reports, GFL, etc... It is the analytical and evidential aspect of cases like this one and many, many more that show without a doubt (IMHO) that something is going on and that at least some could likely be explained by the ETH (extra-terrestrial hypothesis).

Jkrog -very well said.

There are a number of cases which appear to defy rational explanation when all the facts are taken into account - I always thought Admiral Lord Hill-Norton summed the situation up quite well:

"The evidence that there are objects which have been seen in our atmosphere, and even on terra firma, that cannot be accounted for either as man-made objects or as any physical force or effect known to our scientists seems to me to be overwhelming... A very large number of sightings have been vouched for by persons whose credentials seem to me unimpeachable. It is striking that so many have been trained observers, such as police officers and airline or military pilots. Their observations have in many instances... been supported either by technical means such as radar or, even more convincingly, by... interference with electrical apparatus of one sort or another..."

Admiral Lord Hill-Norton (GCB), Chief of Defense Staff, Ministry of Defense, Britain; Chairman, Military Committee of NATO; Admiral of the Fleet; Member of House of Lords.

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Cheers (and a Happy New Year!)

Many more strange UFO incidents from the same year:

"The summer 1952 UFO sighting wave was one of the largest of all time, and arguably the most significant of all time in terms of the credible reports and hardcore scientific data obtained. Electromagnetic (EM) effects and physical trace evidence were more prominent in other waves, but 1952 (and 1953) featured recurring radar detection of UFOs, often from both ground and airborne radar, visual sightings by jet interceptor pilots sent up to pursue the mysterious objects, and cat-and-mouse chases in which the UFOs seemed to toy with the interceptors. Further, Air Force investigators who plotted the sightings noticed that they were concentrated around strategic military bases, and this clearly posed a threat to national security since their origin was unknown".

Richard Hall

The 1952 UFO Wave

More strange reports from Davis Monthan Air Force base:

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At what must have been top speed the object spewed out light colored smoke, but almost directly over Tucson it appeared to hover for a few seconds. The smoke puffed out an angry black and then became lighter as the strange missile appeared to gain speed and shoot westward.

The radio operator in the Davis-Monthan air force base control tower didn’t know what it was. He contacted First Lt. Roy L. Jones Jr., taking off for a cross-country flight in a B-29, and asked Jones to investigate. They feared the object might be an airplane with a smoking engine that the pilot had not seen. But Jones revved up his swift aerial tanker and still the unknown aircraft steadily pulled away toward California.

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