It absolutely is, very correct! We have weeks until Obama gives away our sovereignty in Copenhagen because of this. Click my signature below and add to that thread, people on ATS need to know this now.

Oh man, this is great.. I really hoped that those e-mails would be released. Let's hope more e-mails will be revealed soon..
He actually admits in one of them, to have manipulated temperature data from all the way back from 1961!

Monbiot should quit too
he is a tool

Its a shame to say but this is going to pass anyways, its as good as final... What the release of these emails does do though is worth its weight in gold. If it opened the eyes of just one person to the realization that the world is not what it seems and that it rules are not written for the best interest of people or even the globe has a whole. Then this leak will have done its job. I'm sure it was much more then 1 person too.. To bad there is no mention of this outside of under the radar media.

This like many other bills and statutes and whatever the elite want to call them will come to pass and we will all forget about it. Sometimes i just wish things could be for the benefit of others and not the elite... just once Just another excuse to tax us more and misuse the money.

Originally posted by factbeforefiction
It absolutely is, very correct! We have weeks until Obama gives away our sovereignty in Copenhagen because of this. Click my signature below and add to that thread, people on ATS need to know this now.

He can sign all he wants its NOT binding until the senate ratifies it.

I was born into a Southern Democratic family. I cheered when Clinton won. I jeered when Gore lost, and I cried when Obama won (damn that propaganda machine), and I have been aware of the "Illuminated" ones circa 1993; however, this climate change battle is full of pseudoscience, and it is being sold to us just as Obama was sold to us as a savior.

If any individual with even a mediocre education in statistics, and who is involved in research such as myself looks at the data, then not one single overwhelming and credible reason is given for this current climate hysteria.

I will take on any person in a debate, not the debate that humans are changing the climate, but that the current climate change environment of fear and money is by far the wrong approach to a seemingly enigmatic problem.

Al Gore and Obama both win a Nobel Peace Prize, but Sibel Edmonds is silenced by the media.
What a fracking joke.

Originally posted by Chett

Originally posted by factbeforefiction
It absolutely is, very correct! We have weeks until Obama gives away our sovereignty in Copenhagen because of this. Click my signature below and add to that thread, people on ATS need to know this now.

He can sign all he wants its NOT binding until the senate ratifies it.

I think it is more of a problem than people realize, I heard the Kyoto II could be stalled into next year, BUT, these bastards will NOT stop.

They are talking about making it legal for Nation to start the plan before it is signed etc. And that shows, they are going to fulfill their 'plot' regardless of what happends...

I think this Plan / treaty is the Nail in the coffin....

My understanding is that nothing wold be done at Copenhagen because China and India would not cooperate, a good thing IMHO.

It is good that the exaggerated nature of global warming or climate change is exposed. Nevertheless, the MSM still propagates the misinformation.

I think Lord Monckton explained that even if we could control CO2 in the USA, CO2 would still increase, it is inevitable no matter what measures are taken worldwide. With that in mind, we would be better off planting trees and praying that it's not so bad. Like I have posted before, there are methods that can remove CO2 from the air, but you'd need nuclear power to do it meaningfully.

I am really beginning to wonder what all the environmental controls have really cost society. Let's hope that science is not as weak as it is on climate.

Originally posted by Josephus23
I was born into a Southern Democratic family. I cheered when Clinton won. I jeered when Gore lost, and I cried when Obama won (damn that propaganda machine), and I have been aware of the "Illuminated" ones circa 1993; however, this climate change battle is full of pseudoscience, and it is being sold to us just as Obama was sold to us as a savior.

If any individual with even a mediocre education in statistics, and who is involved in research such as myself looks at the data, then not one single overwhelming and credible reason is given for this current climate hysteria.

I will take on any person in a debate, not the debate that humans are changing the climate, but that the current climate change environment of fear and money is by far the wrong approach to a seemingly enigmatic problem.

Al Gore and Obama both win a Nobel Peace Prize, but Sibel Edmonds is silenced by the media.
What a fracking joke.

What is even worse is that this won't make any difference. The believers will find excuses and the global tax will march right along.
You didn't really need all this stuff, the simple truth is that if it was real, if they had nothing to hide the data would be available for all to see. If they hide it, its not science.

Originally posted by A52FWY
My understanding is that nothing wold be done at Copenhagen because China and India would not cooperate, a good thing IMHO.

It is good that the exaggerated nature of global warming or climate change is exposed. Nevertheless, the MSM still propagates the misinformation.

I think Lord Monckton explained that even if we could control CO2 in the USA, CO2 would still increase, it is inevitable no matter what measures are taken worldwide. With that in mind, we would be better off planting trees and praying that it's not so bad. Like I have posted before, there are methods that can remove CO2 from the air, but you'd need nuclear power to do it meaningfully.

I am really beginning to wonder what all the environmental controls have really cost society. Let's hope that science is not as weak as it is on climate.

Why would you wish to reduce CO2? It makes the plants grow among other things. It is not poison!

I f*^@ing hate how CNN can't even post one article about this (they just have a WIRED article up instead (that doesn't tell # info wise)

RAGEEEEEEEE