Why won't God heal amputees?, page 4
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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 05:58 PM by LordBucket
reply to post by saint4God




I agree we should try this experiment. I believe God could certainly do it.


Yes, I agree...this would be an excellent "experiment" to try. In fact, it's in the benefit of both sides to attempt it. Whether to prove that prayer for healing does work, or to prove that it doesn't...everyone has a vested interest that it be attempted.

So since apparently the people who are logically in a position to believe that it would work don't have enough faith to organize a world-wide prayer, perhaps that task falls on those who believe that it won't work?


reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 06:00 PM by randyvs

This is one of those riddles that non-Christians can't wrap their head around - because if you truly believe in the Bible and Jesus as your savior and stuff, you don't think of God as a genie or a magical wish granter or any screwed up crap like that.
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DEBUNKED AGAIN


I think maybe to much Harry Potter

I wish I would've said that and I was gping to if someone else didn't come up with it. So glad I gave it some time.
Resonable it should be obvious even to your pals that hate is gonna kill you.

I know I sense your desperation. Why don't you give it all over to the lord right now son. You know you want to.



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 06:02 PM by Selahobed
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My mom couldnt pay the rent when i was a kid because my dad drunk it all. My mom is a proud woman so never told anyone about it, except G-d, and she wasnt a church goer either... A letter came through the door saying the rent had been paid 6 months in front. Nobody knew about it except mom. Another example, my mom had to get to work to put food on the table, however she couldnt get to work because we had no money and her beat up car had no petrol. Her work was 40 miles away so walking there was out of the question, but not getting there would means us starving, so she, by faith, filled the tank with water, prayed, and got to work every day that week!! That still makes me laugh today There is no unbelievers in foxholes huh?

In the end of the day G-d is more concerned with the state of our spirit than our body, for if the inside is sick, the outside will be also... If there was no adversity in this world there would be no compassion, without hardship there is no growth, and there is no testimony without a test..

This life is a holy bootcamp for eternity...


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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 06:04 PM by Whine Flu
reply to post by reasonable



Or an instigator here to cause disharmony among others. DO U WRK 4 DA GUVIMINT?


reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 06:07 PM by troubleshooter
Originally posted by reasonable
Originally posted by troubleshooter
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I live with a severe disability caused by a traumatic injury.

For the first three years I could see no purpose for it...
...it seemed like everything I worked years toward was futile.

Then my partner was diagnosed with a medically incurable disease...
...and was given four months...
...and because I was unable to work I focused all my attention on understanding the condition and the range of medical protocols and alternative modalities that could manage or cure it.

Six years later my partner is in remission by all objective criteria...
...without resorting to solutions from Pharma.

We have a saying...nothing every happens to us only ever for us.

I love my disability.



That is simply your crutch. A faith that you are disabled for a reason larger than life. It's how you cope, a coping method and nothing more. Nice that you believe 27,000 children starve to death everyday is a gift from god to them. amazing.

Where did I mention God, religion or faith?

Call it Cognitive Dissonance if you must...
...but I still have a healthy partner who is alive...
...and did not become a victim of western medicine.

And I think I just refuted your OP.




reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 06:07 PM by NatureBoy
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as an athiest i would say that the ONLY reason christians don't kill me is because of the secular moral system introduced despite christianitys plees, threats and underhanded politik... when you look at it that way kinda makes sense why we don't want to see the world revert to theistic law again.

Athieism was a crime in england in my grandmothers lifetime! Sure i don't think many people were getting killed for it while she was alive, her grandmother though? and every grandmother right back to around 500ad when that wicked pope came to convert us. Even heretics within the church have been traditionally burned, JUST LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS.

Once again, the only reason i am able to hold any view i like is because of secular moral theory - if the world goes back to christian dogmatic law, biblical literalism, etc then the likes of us athiests will be rounded up and burned - i don't want my grandchildren to live in the world my great grandmother did where even Deists had trouble if they dared expose their belief.

however yes of course i believe anyone can belive anything they want, its not that easy though because they're trying to teach kids about 6000year old earths, ban stem cell research, etc, etc, etc. also its a regressive way of thinking that causes pain and suffering not only to the people who believe in it but to those around them and society as a whole, i believe most religions to be more dangerous than alcohol, drugs or almost anything else.


reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 06:12 PM by blupblup
reply to post by NatureBoy




While i agree with everything you've said... i'm not sure of your point?
I was talking about a guy who got comfort from praying, to get through his illness?

I'm not talking about far-right christian fundies who want to burn science books and make Atheism illegal?
I'm all for stem-cell research and abortion and every other thing that these far-right nutters are against.

I cannot stand extremism in any form.

And as an Atheist myself, i see no harm in people getting comfort out of praying for their loved ones.

It's when people start blowing people up and killing people and banning stuff and whatever that it become an issue for me.
My main point was that attacking a guy who prayed for his dying wife.... is just seriously sick.


reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 06:38 PM by saint4God
Originally posted by Selahobed
My mom couldnt pay the rent when i was a kid because my dad drunk it all. My mom is a proud woman so never told anyone about it, except G-d, and she wasnt a church goer either... A letter came through the door saying the rent had been paid 6 months in front. Nobody knew about it except mom. Another example, my mom had to get to work to put food on the table, however she couldnt get to work because we had no money and her beat up car had no petrol. Her work was 40 miles away so walking there was out of the question, but not getting there would means us starving, so she, by faith, filled the tank with water, prayed, and got to work every day that week!! That still makes me laugh today There is no unbelievers in foxholes huh?


What an awesome testimonial! Thank you for sharing thing, yet, I know there are many who will not believe until they see for themselves as well. We're told the greatest of all blessings go to those who have not witnessed and yet believe. I don't fall into this catagory however, hence my kinship to the skeptic's website ATS.

Originally posted by Selahobed
In the end of the day G-d is more concerned with the state of our spirit than our body, for if the inside is sick, the outside will be also... If there was no adversity in this world there would be no compassion, without hardship there is no growth, and there is no testimony without a test..

This life is a holy bootcamp for eternity...


Ah, you're into the complexities of the 'blessings of suffering' which is some difficult stuff conceptually. Well stated though, better than I could surely.

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