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Because it's what we are made of.
You have a spirit and you have a body, they are two very different things that make you a person. Kind of like a cab and a driver make a cabbie.
Some Cabbies think they are the Cab other think they are the Driver. But a good Cabbie enjoys his job either way. How does a person not look like he is getting help if he enjoys his life?
We all have a divine spark in us so when we help ourselves it is the devine helping itself.
I mean look at the guy with no arms in the video I posted. To tell me that he is not helped by his own divinity is foolish.
Originally posted by reasonable
A brilliant read and I challenge any christian to debunk it -in fact it already takes into consideration many scenarios of christian response. So then.. what do christians think of this? How much more proof could someone need?
For this experiment, we need to find a deserving person who has had both of his legs amputated. For example, find a sincere, devout veteran of the Iraqi war, or a person who was involved in a tragic automobile accident.
Now create a prayer circle like the one created for Jeanna Giese. The job of this prayer circle is simple: pray to God to restore the amputated legs of this deserving person. I do not mean to pray for a team of renowned surgeons to somehow graft the legs of a cadaver onto the soldier, nor for a team of renowned scientists to craft mechanical legs for him. Pray that God spontaneously and miraculously restores the soldier's legs overnight, in the same way that God spontaneously and miraculously cured Jeanna Giese and Marilyn Hickey's mother.
If possible, get millions of people all over the planet to join the prayer circle and pray their most fervent prayers. Get millions of people praying in unison for a single miracle for this one deserving amputee. Then stand back and watch.
What is going to happen? Jesus clearly says that if you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer. He does not say it once -- he says it many times in many ways in the Bible.
And yet, even with millions of people praying, nothing will happen.
No matter how many people pray. No matter how sincere those people are. No matter how much they believe. No matter how devout and deserving the recipient. Nothing will happen. The legs will not regenerate. Prayer does not restore the severed limbs of amputees. You can electronically search through all the medical journals ever written -- there is no documented case of an amputated leg being restored spontaneously. And we know that God ignores the prayers of amputees through our own observations of the world around us. If God were answering the prayers of amputees to regenerate their lost limbs, we would be seeing amputated legs growing back every day.
Xtianity the greatest conspiracy on earth, welcome to the make it up as you go along Big Blag.
1Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance. 2So she came running to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one Jesus loved, and said, "They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we don't know where they have put him!"
Originally posted by Izarith
reply to post by EMPIRE
After all god help people who help themselves.
[edit on 29-11-2009 by Izarith]
Very clever. The problem is this was written from Mary's perspective. She thought the Lord's body had been removed. It didn't dawn on her that he was resurrected.
In the mid to late 80's, I've personally have seen a young man's left leg in a full leg cast from being shattered in 10 places from being a victum of a hit and run on a Wednesday night and after being prayed for, came back on Sunday morning with it off with xrays to prove it..