It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by BrawleR
What I never understood is... "God" gave us free will correct? Yet if we do not believe in him and follow his teachings we burn in hell for all eternity? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman
Originally posted by zerbot565
reply to post by Iamonlyhuman
it depends on which "god" you belive in as a christian
the god moses spoke to ?
the gods that made adam and eve ?
the god jesus talked about ?
or a made up collaboration of all above ?
That's an easy one. The God I believe is the one that speaks to ME in my soul. It's hard to explain but I know in the deepest part of me that He is there and, yes, it gives me strength to carry on in this insane, horrible, temporary world.
Originally posted by ilovetoledo
Dear non-believer friends, if you do not want to believe in God, that is your choice. However, why are you so preoccupied with the subject? I doubt that you will change many peoples' beliefs. It seems strange that you should be so preoccupied with a subject you might regard as falacious, irrational, and maybe just plain stupid? If that is what you truly believe, then why waste your time trying to convince us?
Originally posted by oliveoil
The natural flow of life is through God. Why do people keep suppressing that?
God is here helping us along the way. If you refuse his help, I guess your on your own.
Originally posted by TheOracle
Everything that happens to us isn't some random act. There are those less 'fortunate' than others. God isn't here to correct what is lacking for every one of us, rather judge how we live our life, how we respect the basic values like Love and Respect.
Have you noticed how very few of the well off do something with their wealth to actually help those in need? It is true that the poorest or the suffering are generally the most generous.
Anyways, good things and bad things are bound to happen to us during our little instant on this world, people should learn how to overcome their difficulties, help others overcome theirs and use a bit of fraternity and in the end we will be rewarded for it.
And people should stop picturing God like in the movie 'Bruce Almighty', God isnt an old man sitting somewhere staring at a bunch of prayers, God is more like the essence of this very universe we are part of and probably going to purge the bad elements poisoning its purity.
Originally posted by zerbot565
Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman
Originally posted by zerbot565
reply to post by Iamonlyhuman
it depends on which "god" you belive in as a christian
the god moses spoke to ?
the gods that made adam and eve ?
the god jesus talked about ?
or a made up collaboration of all above ?
That's an easy one. The God I believe is the one that speaks to ME in my soul. It's hard to explain but I know in the deepest part of me that He is there and, yes, it gives me strength to carry on in this insane, horrible, temporary world.
so your a spiritual pagan who see the whole of nature and belive in the hindu type afterlife of recarnation ?
Originally posted by zerbot565
most christians arent even christians even thou they say they practice the religion.
most christians quote the book with out even having read it as a whole with all the material around the book thats not published in the book.
most christians have selected passages of the book which they live by and forget the rest thats in the book.
most christians brake the rules god put forth daily.
most christians are born again NEW AGE spiritualists not christians.
most christians put faith before fact.
most christians forget to turn the cheek.
most christians belive that all actions in life are pre determed by the will of god.
most christians are delusional.
Originally posted by romanmel
OK...now what about most "God haters" belirfs and actions? Not athiests, God haters. How else can you account for someone who says they reject God and yet spend most of their time trying to attack those who have by free will chosen to accept God?
Originally posted by ilovetoledo
Dear non-believer friends, if you do not want to believe in God, that is your choice. However, why are you so preoccupied with the subject? I doubt that you will change many peoples' beliefs. It seems strange that you should be so preoccupied with a subject you might regard as falacious, irrational, and maybe just plain stupid? If that is what you truly believe, then why waste your time trying to convince us?
You will likely ignore these words for now; but they will absolutely be on your mind as you take your last breath... and wonder in terror about what happens next.
Originally posted by BrawleR
Originally posted by oliveoil
The natural flow of life is through God. Why do people keep suppressing that?
God is here helping us along the way. If you refuse his help, I guess your on your own.
Hey, when he offers a hand I'll gladly grab it. Up till now, I've lived the life of a good person, but I've had many hardships in my short time here on Earth. I've had no assistance. I'm a spiritual person, and believe there are things out there that we can't understand yet, however, I'm not into blind faith. That's just me. Believe what you want, I'm just trying to understand the mindset of people who follow Christianity.