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Obese students forced to take fitness class at Pennsylvania university to graduate

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posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 04:19 PM
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Or.
Maybe they just want to teach these lardasses how to exercise and eat right before their heart gives out and they drop dead. Maybe they are just trying to help them. Plus fat peope contribute more CO2 to global warming. They are kiling us all.




posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 04:20 PM
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Thats why everyone has there own natural weight.

You all need to find yours, and you will find your body will feel fine with it.



posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by HotSauce
Plus fat peope contribute more CO2 to global warming. They are kiling us all.




You are kidding right?

I'm sure you don't believe it but it sounds like you are seirous



posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 04:24 PM
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This is total Hitler. There are a multitude of people in college that are not living "healthy" lifestyles (I sure didn't). There are a multitude of people in college who may not "look" like the norm. There are people with pins all stuck in their face, all styles of hair and clothing, anything you can think of. When we begin to point fingers at other people and force them to do things "for their own good" we are well on our way to the Orwellian Animal Farm. That is not the type of society I wish to live in or accept.


[edit on 24-11-2009 by factbeforefiction]



posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 04:27 PM
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It is commonly accepted to be true. Not just coming from me. Here is another source, if you want more just google "obese CO2". There are tons of articles and info about this.




Researchers are increasingly warning that the obesity epidemic is contributing to global warming, with potentially devastating consequences for people and habitats around the world.

"Food production accounts for about one fifth of greenhouse gases," said researcher Phil Edwards, of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. "We need to do a lot more to reverse the global trend towards fatness. It is a key factor in the battle to reduce carbon emissions and slow climate change."

According to Edwards' research, the average overweight person is responsible for an extra ton of carbon dioxide emissions a year, compared with a person of healthier weight. Based on World Health Organization estimates, this translates into an extra one billion tons per year.


Source

[edit on 24-11-2009 by HotSauce]



posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by badgerprints

Originally posted by Avenginggecko
It will help them and their society by being more personally and socially responsible.


Wow, Marx would have been proud.


What does Marx have to do with physical education?


More social conditioning.


Oh puh-leeze. Endless TV commercials for all sorts of deadly fast food is more like social conditioning and quite effective in getting you six feet under in quickest time possible -- how's that for sport.



posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 04:36 PM
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So you are blaming commercials for making you shove that third Big Mac down your throat, past your triple chins?



posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by HotSauce
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So you are blaming commercials for making you shove that third Big Mac down your throat, past your triple chins?


I don't visit McDonald's or any other comparable establishment. However, a newsbreak for you: commercials work. They wouldn't be spending a pretty penny if they didn't. Therefore, yes, I do blame commercials, in part for the obesity problem in the US. They should be banned.



posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by badgerprints

Originally posted by Avenginggecko
It will help them and their society by being more personally and socially responsible.


Wow, Marx would have been proud. The only time society is mentioned is when you are forcing someone else to do something.

More social conditioning.

It's not about preparing students to face the world. It's about conditioning these students to adapt to the agenda.

How many fat professors will be willing to give up their tenure if they don't lose weight?



[edit on 24-11-2009 by badgerprints]


Oh please, lay off the dramatics. If you believe that learning saturated fat and high fructose corn syrup are bad for you is some nefarious Marxist agenda then you are too paranoid for your own good. It's hilarious that people so willingly throw around Communist labels in order to discredit something that a) they're probably ignorant about, and b) have absolutely nothing to do with Communism. And I promise you, I am at least as much as, if not more so, a Capitalist than you are.

This is an institution that forces zero people to attend the school. Any obese people are completely free to not enroll in the curriculum and seek their education elsewhere.

Big food industries spend billions of dollars on creative and deceptive marketing of their products to fool people into consuming more and becoming obese. That, combined with the abysmal level of nutritional education in elementary and high school makes young people incredibly susceptible to becoming obese.

Please excuse the evil Marxist university for giving obese young adults the chance to educate themselves and pull themselves out of their ignorance in order to lead a healthier, happier (mentally and physically) life.

Also, enlighten us "Marxists" as to what exactly this agenda is? What Communist purpose is served by learning how to objectively flip to the back of a box of Oreos and see that 90% of the ingredients are harmful to your body?



posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 05:01 PM
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This is not acceptable at all. This screams socialist crud!! And BMI is totally bogus too. When I joined the Marine corps I didn't meet their BMI standards at 6'4" and 250lbs but was in the best shape of my life! I was a football player and all muscle! I had to get a waiver for my BMI and I didn't have an once of fat on my body!! This whole idea is ridiculous! This is a college not boot camp!!



posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 05:08 PM
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Is this univ. private or public?

Doesn't really matter one way or the other, I suppose. Most univ. have the ability to tailor their requirements as they wish. Example: the univ. I graduated from changed it's general ed. req. so that they would be different from every other univ. in the state thereby making it almost impossible to transfer once you started and/or risk losing all of the credits earned up to that point (it wasn't the only one to do this, they all did). It's all about retention. Retention equals dollars.
As for curriculum; Health (physical and nutrition) courses are required at most univ. as part of the general elective req. credits.

The question would be; is this univ. requiring only those it deems overweight to take these courses and if so, who makes this decision? If taking these courses applies to all students, than it's fair game. If it applies to only "over weight" than it is discrimination (IMO).


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posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 05:12 PM
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I've had a relatively high BMI most of my life, and I do have a pretty muscular build. I'm grateful to all people who put at least moderate pressure on me throughout my life, to do sports and watch what I eat. I managed to become a moderately successful amateur athlete after all. My life would have been worse if the school and what not didn't nudge me in the right direction.



posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 05:15 PM
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Do you really think they are going to learn the truth in those classes. most information that the FDA puts out there about diet and fitness is a farce. Most people who are obese aren't obese from over eating its from all the crap they put in foods now days. Do you really think these classes are going to tell you to that the best thing you can do is avoid food made in a lab?That includes canned fruits and veggies. Any thing thing with preservatives should be avoided. My own personal rule of thumb is if I can't tell what animal vegetable or mineral it comes from just by looking at it, I don't eat it. If it has a self life longer than a few days, I don't eat it. (Unless its dehydrated foods.)



posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by calstorm
Do you really think they are going to learn the truth in those classes. most information that the FDA puts out there about diet and fitness is a farce. Most people who are obese aren't obese from over eating its from all the crap they put in foods now days.


There was a recent article on CNN which traced the size of portions for the past 20 years or so. There has been a growth of something like 2.5 times in terms of both size and caloric content, with ingredients being largely the same!



posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by HotSauce
reply to post by ModernAcademia
 


It is commonly accepted to be true. Not just coming from me. Here is another source, if you want more just google "obese CO2". There are tons of articles and info about this.




Researchers are increasingly warning that the obesity epidemic is contributing to global warming, with potentially devastating consequences for people and habitats around the world.

"Food production accounts for about one fifth of greenhouse gases," said researcher Phil Edwards, of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. "We need to do a lot more to reverse the global trend towards fatness. It is a key factor in the battle to reduce carbon emissions and slow climate change."

According to Edwards' research, the average overweight person is responsible for an extra ton of carbon dioxide emissions a year, compared with a person of healthier weight. Based on World Health Organization estimates, this translates into an extra one billion tons per year.


Source

[edit on 24-11-2009 by HotSauce]


Dude, that article only makes me think that I should change my mind about applauding this.

Global warming is a farce, doesn't exist, it's a hoax

fat people contributing to it is ridiculous and laughable.



posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 05:47 PM
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This should be in schools and all universities. I dont see anything wrong with it, i wish they would do it here in the UK then maybe the cost in terms of taxes going to the NHS because of lardies and poor fitness and nutrition would go down. Not only would we have a more alert, fitter and motivated society, but tax would go down not having to treat preventable health issues.



posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
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Point taken

but keep in mind strongmen on espn are powerlifters
meaning they lift heavy weights with only like 1 or 2 reps which equals ZERO cardio.

that's why they have no definition


Although I 100% think this is awesome and more people should be made to do this to graduate or get healthcare you are wrong on the worlds strongest men and power lifters.

Mariusz Pudzianowski, check out that guy and tell me he has no definition. An sure they train to have peak muscle but they also must train for massive endurance.

If the college is using BMI then that's pretty dumb because its not accurate for people that are in shape but for the average person its a pretty good indicator. It should be more like people need to take physical tests and pass them. You dont make the tests impossible for the average person but enough that if your out of shape your going to be in trouble. Maybe doing this will help get healthcare prices in line.



posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by badgerprints

Originally posted by Avenginggecko
It will help them and their society by being more personally and socially responsible.


Wow, Marx would have been proud.


What does Marx have to do with physical education?


More social conditioning.


Oh puh-leeze. Endless TV commercials for all sorts of deadly fast food is more like social conditioning and quite effective in getting you six feet under in quickest time possible -- how's that for sport.


Originally posted by Avenginggecko

This is an institution that forces zero people to attend the school. Any obese people are completely free to not enroll in the curriculum and seek their education elsewhere.



Of course they are free to go elsewhere. It is the nicest way to continue the marginalization of another subclass.

You are there to teach and protect them from themselves, and if they don't like it, they can go away and leave the superior skinny classes to themselves.

Maybe the fat folks should go and take classes at a school that allows them to smoke to hmm? Maybe we should outlaw clothing that is any size over large?

Fat people, smokers, we've got to show them that they aren't good enough. We have to CHANGE them.
Conform or go away. So ..superior...so progressive.

It's for their own good.


Good little social programmers.
You must believe in what you are forcing people to do.

Once again,
Marx would have been proud.





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posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by Wildbob77
Perhaps everyone should be required to take classes in health, nutrition, and exercise.

Way back when I started college, I had to take PE. But, they didn't bother to teach you anything.

A population that didn't have the obesity problems that we in the US have would have a much smaller demand on health care services.


Well said Wildbob. When I went to college, PE was require of everyone. It had nothing to do with my degree either.



posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 06:49 PM
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Wonderful job at being completely unable to objectively answer any question posed to you and falling back on labeling people you know nothing about as communist.

Intelligent debate: 0

McCarthyism: 1



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