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What will happen when all the unemployment runs out?


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Topic started on 24-11-2009 @ 08:41 AM by havok


My question to all you ATS'ers is this:

What do you think will happen when all the millions of unemployed people run completely out of money? No more benefits from the gov't? Anarchy? War?

You have to realize that this is going to happen very soon.

Sources to check:
InfoWars Unemployment Rate
USAToday article

There is a great video here on ATS about the rising unemployment rate:
Watch this!



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 08:46 AM by marg6043


Well here in my neck of the woods in GA all the government have left is about 130 million dollars of unemployment funds.

It was told in the news this week that already the unemployment funds are to run dry before the holiday season.

So I let you know what happen next.

I can tell you this much, people are getting armed and crime is growing.



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 08:46 AM by QBSneak000


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Its hard to believe it would ever run out. After all, there are still millions of people that still have jobs that pay into it every pay cheque (at least thats how it is here in Canada). The only way I can see it completely running out is if everyone in the country was unemployed.

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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 08:46 AM by havok


Originally posted by marg6043
Well here in my neck of the woods in GA all the government have left is about 130 million dollars of unemployment funds.

It was told in the news this week that already the unemployment funds are to run dry before the holiday season.

So I let you know what happen next.

I can tell you this much, people are getting armed and crime is growing.


This might be exactly what I'm going to hear. Crime. War.

This is what TPTB want.



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 08:50 AM by havok


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With the way the US is throwing money away, it seems we are only seconds away from running out. Seems....being the key word here.



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 08:55 AM by InertiaZero


Originally posted by marg6043
Well here in my neck of the woods in GA all the government have left is about 130 million dollars of unemployment funds.

It was told in the news this week that already the unemployment funds are to run dry before the holiday season.

So I let you know what happen next.

I can tell you this much, people are getting armed and crime is growing.


Ive heard the same thing around here.
But I also know of quite a few people that have been riding out their unemployment checks, and somehow got additional months of it by switching counties(ex: Chatham to Fulton) and I cant find any info on the procedure.
So I imagine with the rate being so high, and people abusing the system, we will run out long before we should.

As for the original poster's question, I bet we are going to be taxed. And small business owners that pay unemployment insurance are going to get taxed.
And I know that if MY small business was getting taxed more, I would have to let an employee or two go.
HMMMMM.
I think I see a cycle here!

S&F



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 08:59 AM by ~Lucidity


I'm almost sure someone started a topic like this the other day. Oh no...nevermind...it was a subtopic here.

I read last month that 12 million nationwide are slated to lose benefits in December.

What's happening is as you said, more crime, more people being defined as criminals (defaulting on loans and credit debt payments), more suicide and murder-suicide, more desperate people everywhere. People moving in together (like we said in the other topic), people either pooling together or getting uglier in competing for the jobs that are still available...I'm sure we'll see all forms of the human psyche and the corresponding behaviors, the good and the bad.

I'm in GA too and took a friend to register for unemployment yesterday...the place was bursting at the rafters. Literally. And that's saying a lot considering we were told by workers there that no one even needs to visit the office anymore other than to file a new claim...they're far too overloaded to even run their customary training classes now on how to file and claim weekly (it's a video now) or to even have anyone come in for what used to be mandatory checkpoints on job seeking (I'm sure abuse is probably high now too with less checkpoints in place). The irony of all this? Their staff was cut almost in half from 2008 to 2009.

And I'm sure that other public relief will soon be facing the same crises as far as funding goes...food, shelter, and healthcare may become true luxuries.



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 09:03 AM by marg6043


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Well one thing that is been prop here in GA is the kitchens and food collection centers.

Or food collections drives, my daughter that works for one of the local banks that are sponsoring the drives are working hard to bring food to those in need for the holidays.



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 09:04 AM by DaddyBare


All joking aside.... what I most fear is not a break down but a changed to a fully socialist form of government.

I grew up on a ranch, we just bought a small farm... I can take care of my family with or without aid... I know how to trade for goods and services... I know how to chop wood, dig a ditch, butcher a hog... I raised my kids that way too...

No what scares the bejesus out of me is the thought of a government assigning jobs and housing, That may work for Cuba but this isn't Cuba



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 09:05 AM by havok


Originally posted by ~Lucidity
I'm almost sure someone started a topic like this the other day. Oh no...nevermind...it was a subtopic here.



I found alot of thread stating unemployment rate, but not one asking the underlying question. Unless I didn't search hard enough.


Thats the problem, though. We, as a species, can survive in the wild for thousands of years without what we have now.

I think panic will erupt, followed by total chaos. At least, in the big cities.
The gov't surely thought this one through right?

Oh no, wait....they're too worried about passing Gov't Healthcare.



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 09:08 AM by ~Lucidity


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That is all the media and the assinine pundits seem to focus on. Heathcare and ACORN and Sarah Freaking Palin and I'm sure the Christmas er Holiday Shopping Season soon?! Diversion. Distraction. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 09:11 AM by marg6043


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That is how my father raised us, food came from my grandfathers farm, fresh kill.

I new how to kill, skin and cook since very young.

But my children well they only see that type of "stuff" on movies.

I know that people think I am too delicate for hard work, but they will be surprised of what I can do, after all I am my fathers daughter.

If I find myself in the woods one day for any reason, I will survive.



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 09:12 AM by havok


Originally posted by ~Lucidity
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That is all the media and the assinine pundits seem to focus on. Heathcare and ACORN and Sarah Freaking Palin and I'm sure the Christmas er Holiday Shopping Season soon?! Diversion. Distraction. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.



Exactly! Alittle distraction here. Slight of hand there!

I still want to hear from more of those that are unemployed.



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 09:14 AM by alttracks


I just know that my wife's place of business (healthcare) is having a hard time filling jobs at a starting pay of $10.00/hr with benefits after 90 days.
They can't keep employees either - these people want the money, but don't want to WORK for it.



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 09:15 AM by ~Lucidity


I'm unemployed. I have no health care. I'm not sweating it. There are jobs out there I can get for less money than my unemployment when my unemployment runs out. I wonder how many others are in this situation?

In fact, in my job hunt, I learned that Apple is hiring American for their call center...and by the way paying Americans less money ($10-$17/hour limited benefits) than they're paying people in their Indian call centers (trend alert).



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 09:16 AM by ~Lucidity


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People can't live on that wage. Never mind support a family.



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 10:44 AM by randel


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It's actually really simple ... the US will start another war and they will enlist. The army pays well and after the initial attack they will be conned into thinking peace is established and it's all butterflyes and rainbows ...

people from 7/11, mac and low wage will enlist also ... so jobs will be created in the army peace keeping, maybe another mexico us wall etc.

The problem is that the taxpayers have to support a huge army ...



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 10:47 AM by Stinkhorn1


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I don't think he means when the money runs out, obarry will just print more. What he is talking about is when the unemployed cannot collect anymore because their unemployment is exhausted.

You people that elected this community leader are getting what you paid for and so are the rest of us, we are getting a swift kick in the bung hole!



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 10:56 AM by marg6043


Unemployment Rate Rises in 29 States


Unemployment figures across the United States continued to worsen in October. According to CNNMoney.com, unemployment rates rose in 29 states and the District of Columbia, while falling in just 13 states.


The highest unemployment rates were seen in Michigan (15.1 percent), Nevada (13.0 percent), Rhode Island (12.9 percent), California (12.5 percent), and South Carolina (12.1 percent). This marks the 11th straight month in which Michigan, once a juggernaut of the middle-class in the U.S., posted double digit unemployment numbers.

Despite the continued malaise, there was actually a glimmer of hope in the new employment figures. Texas added 42,000 jobs in October, leading all states, followed by Michigan with 38,600 jobs.

In an economy shedding more than 300,000 jobs each month the small additions in Michigan, Texas, and elsewhere are not nearly enough to make up for losses.


www.economyincrisis.org...

This are the numbers of some states that can be accounted for as per govenrment statistics, the real numbers or shadow numbers are much worst.

Have you ever wondered why the CPI, GDP and employment numbers run counter to your personal and business experiences? The problem lies in biased and often-manipulated government reporting.


www.shadowstats.com...

Unemployment Is Really at 22.1%


NyPo's John Crudele reports on the latest numbers from Shadow Government Stats and fills in a bit more on how the government is able to whittle down the number to 10.1%: My friend John Williams of Shadow Government Stats thinks the true unemployment rate would be 22.1 percent if everyone -- all discouraged former workers, encouraged, involuntary part-timers and the like -- were included.

Here are more numbers to fry your brain and cause a temporary sense of helplessness.


www.freerepublic.com...



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 10:58 AM by jacksmoke


I read on a finicial blog in Jan, 1 million will lose unemployment benifits, and approx 1 mil a month after that unless Congress votes to extend benifits prior to Christmas. I don't think they will extend benifits, as people drop off the unemployment roles it artifically drops the unemployment rate, making the stimulus plan seem more effective Also, in most of the U.S. it is illegal to evict someone or shut-off utilities in the residence they live in during the winter. So, between having a warm place to live for a few more months and the cold weather it should keep riots and crime at a lower level (at least until spring)



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