posted on Nov, 24 2009 @ 03:56 AM
Well that at least explains the 'Us' & 'Our' in that sentence that has bothered me for ages now. Now, there may be a lot of controversy around the
Gospel of Judas but I don't see it any different than any other book in the Bible.
But I guess all of us have asked this question to ourselves- Who is the 'Us' in the book of Genesis?
“Then Saklas said to his angels, ‘Let us create a human being after the likeness and after the image.’ They fashioned Adam and his wife
Eve, who is called, in the cloud, Zoe. For by this name all the generations seek the man, and each of them calls the woman by these names. Now, Sakla
did not  com[mand …] except […] the gene[rations …] this […]. And the [ruler] said to Adam, ‘You shall live long, with your
First of all, who is Saklas?
Demiurge (the Latinized form of Greek dēmiourgos, δημιουργός, literally "public or skilled worker", from dēmios "belonging to
the people, public" + ergon "work", and hence a "maker", "artisan" or "craftsman") in philosophical and religious language is a term for a
creator deity, responsible for the creation of the Universe.
Plato has the speaker Timaeus refer to the demiurge frequently in the Socratic dialogue Timaeus circa 360 BCE. The title character refers to the
demiurge as the entity who “fashioned and shaped” the material world. Timaeus describes the Demiurge as unreservedly benevolent and hence desirous
of a world as good as possible. The world remains allegedly imperfect, however, because the demiurge had to work on pre-existing chaotic,
So, all is not as it seems to be & the more I read & research, the more confused I get...
What I do realize though or gather from what I have read. Is that 'God' is but the consciousness within all of us & everything around us.
Allow me to clarify-
The first and highest aspect of God is the One, the source or the Monad. Plato describes this concept (the monad or the one) as the Good above
the demiurge, the good that is manifest through the demiurge and the work of the demiurge. The Monad emanated the Nous (consciousness) from its
"indeterminate" vitality due to the monad being so abundant that it overflowed back onto itself causing self reflection.
Seems to me we have have been fed a warped view on what God actually is and what it stands for.
Now, I know what you might be thinking, Who created Saklas & His Angels?
The Self Generated-
JESUS TEACHES JUDAS ABOUT COSMOLOGY: THE SPIRIT AND THE SELF-GENERATED
Jesus said, “[Come], that I may teach you about [secrets] no person [has] ever seen. For there exists a great and boundless realm, whose extent no
generation of angels has seen, [in which] there is [a] great invisible [Spirit], which no eye of an angel has ever seen, no thought of the heart has
ever comprehended,and it was never called by any name.
The Self Generated is God (our consciousness & everything good that moves through us & around us). And bear in mind, it states that it was never
called by any name...Yet, we call 'him' Yahweh' amongst many other names.
“And a luminous cloud appeared there. He said, ‘Let an angel come into being as my attendant.’ “A great angel, the enlightened divine
Self-Generated, emerged from the cloud. Because of him, four other angels came into being from another cloud, and they became attendants for the
angelic Self-Generated. The Self-Generated said,  ‘Let […] come into being […],’ and it came into being […]. And he [created] the first
luminary to reign over him. He said, ‘Let angels come into being to serve [him],’ and myriads without number came into being. He said, ‘[Let] an
enlightened aeon come into being,’ and he came into being. He created the second luminary [to] reign over him, together with myriads of angels
without number, to offer service. That is how he created the rest of the enlightened aeons. He made them reign over them, and he created for them
myriads of angels without number, to assist them.
I will conclude with this paragraph which makes little sense to me. I'm not quite sure what to make of it- What comes to mind is that these are
planets or heavenly bodies complete with a true consciousness.
ADAMAS AND THE LUMINARIES
“Adamas was in the first luminous cloud that no angel has ever seen among all those called ‘God.’ He  […] that […] the image […] and
after the likeness of [this] angel. He made the incorruptible [generation] of Seth appear […] the twelve […] the twentyfour […]. He made
seventy-two luminaries appear in the incorruptible generation, in accordance with the will of the Spirit. The seventy-two luminaries themselves made
three hundred sixty luminaries appear in the incorruptible generation, in accordance with the will of the Spirit, that their number should be five for
each. “The twelve aeons of the twelve luminaries constitute their father, with six heavens for each aeon, so that there are seventy-two heavens for
the seventy-two luminaries, and for each  [of them five] firmaments, [for a total of] three hundred sixty [firmaments …]. They were given
authority and a [great] host of angels [without number], for glory and adoration, [and after that also] virgin spirits, for glory and [adoration] of
all the aeons and the heavens and their firmaments.
So many heavens and so many firmaments- Extraterrestrial life anyone?
Sources - Gospel of Judas
- Wikipedia- Saklas, Demiurge
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