Climategate, Copenhagen, and The New World Order

So if global warming is a fraud (which makes sense)

Why are the ice caps melting faster?

Originally posted by '___'omino
So if global warming is a fraud (which makes sense)

Why are the ice caps melting faster?

The climate changes? Though some might suggest that the ice caps are not melting, and that the permafrost is perfectly fine ecetera. The argument is whether the changes are man made, which of course they are not. That being the case, we cannot change the climate, and that it why it is a fraud.

Quite simple really.

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Probably something to do with Cosmic rays, and the Heliosphere.

The Glenn Beck interview with Lord Christopher Monckton regarding the Copenhagen treaty for World Government. 10-30-2009

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Fluctuations such as those are the result of solar emissions which do not only effect the Earth, but all planets in our solar system.

Beyond the global warming fraud, the most important thing to all of this is the intent to use this fraud as the reason to create a global government to which the United States will cede its sovereignty.


[edit on 24-11-2009 by factbeforefiction]

I find it astonishing that more people are concerned with football games and Walmart sales then the sovereignty of The United States being signed away in the creation of a new world government. This absolutely will take place between Dec. 7 - 18th in Copenhagen and even on a site such as ATS only a hand full of people seem to care.

It seems that the TPTB have placed their people
in every important position throughout the world and so one really has
to wonder how it is possible to unseat them. If it is true that we have
the ability to make things happen with our collective minds, perhaps we
need to start implementing some specific "thoughts" soon...like yesterday!

It seems quite clear that the sun is the main cause of climate changes.
We see all through history that the climate changes. Here is New Zealand
we have had terrible weather this winter...much colder than last winter.
How could that be if the globe is warming?

Originally posted by factbeforefiction
I find it astonishing that more people are concerned with football games and Walmart sales then the sovereignty of The United States being signed away in the creation of a new world government. This absolutely will take place between Dec. 7 - 18th in Copenhagen and even on a site such as ATS only a hand full of people seem to care.

Obama doesn't have the power to sign away US sovereignty. He is not a dictator, anything he signs would still have to go through the Congress and the Senate to become the law of the land. It will not happen.

OBAMA is officially going

edition.cnn.com...


And there are ways this will pass -- saying that its impossible is arrrrg fallacy

[edit on 25-11-2009 by '___'omino]

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"He is not a dictator, anything he signs would still have to go through the Congress and the Senate to become the law "

Newsflash for ya, the federal reserve act of 1913 passed while congress and the senate were closed for christmas I think it was, and was never ratified! This is both illegal and treasonous, for the US Constitution plainly states that any legislation passed in the senate and not ratified by congress is null and void. Also, one more point. According to our constitution, any ratified bill has 17 days to be signed by the president before it can legally become law. The fed reserve act was not signed in the 17 day window because it was never ratified!

Originally posted by Erasurehead

Obama doesn't have the power to sign away US sovereignty. He is not a dictator, anything he signs would still have to go through the Congress and the Senate to become the law of the land. It will not happen.

If the government cared about the Constitution that would and should be true, however there are countless examples of the State Department and the Federal Courts citing international law in order to enforce provisions of unratified treaties.

The Glen Beck interview in the thread includes a classic example of this.

You can also Google "enforcing unratified treaties" for endless examples, case logs, and debate.

I posted a thread a few months ago that was similiar to this here
NWO to be funded by Climate Change!
I'll re-post what I posted there if that's ok.

"What is at stake is to launch a reform process of the general UN system in view of fostering a new global agenda and building a New World Order."

These are not the rantings of a conspiricy theorist, but the words of an organization called Socialist International. Socialist International, which formed in 1951, has close ties to the United Nations and are affiliated with the Bilderberg Group.

George Andreas Papandreou is currently the president of Socialist International, is also a Bilderberg attendee. Other members of Socialist International include Helen Clark (former NZ Prime Minister) who has now taken the helm of the United Nations Development Programme. Her predecessor, Kemal Dervis, also has strong links to Socialist International.

Also, Obama's climate change 'czar' Carol Browner was a member of Socialist International. Although, on her appointment, her name dissapeared off the Socialist Internationational website, but screenshots can be found in this article. Why it was taken off, I don't know.

Socialist International prepared a briefing paper titled "Reforming the United Nations for a New Global Agenda" in 2005 which can be found here. These are some exerpts from that paper.

The UN Funds and Programmes should be streamlined and merged in order to avoid overlappings, increase the efficiency and enhance the role of the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP).
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There should be a one-time review and replacement of personnel, including through early retirement, to ensure that the Secretariat is staffed with the right people to undertake the tasks at hand.
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The mobilization of these resources may require development oriented special allocations of SDRs, some forms of international taxation such as a carbon tax or a tax on the production or sale of armaments, or a small profit tax surcharge on the income of large corporations

So to summarise, Socialist International proposes that the UN should get rid of older staff, to usher in staff who will be able to undertake the tasks at hand (New Global Agenda), and use a carbon tax to fund the reform.

We strongly believe that the United Nations must become the principal custodian of our global human security…A major restructuring of the world’s income distribution, production and consumption patterns may therefore be a necessary precondition.

These are the words of the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) from their "Human Development Report" from 1994.

This was also from the same report.

“Global taxation may become necessary in any case to achieve the goals of global human security. Some of the promising new sources include tradeable permits for global pollution, a global tax on non-renewable energy, demilitarization funds and a small transaction tax,”

Note that this was in 1994, before most of the "global warming" hype. But the important thing is, this was NOT to reduce the effects of climate change. The UN wanted a tax on global pollution(carbon tax) for the purpose of funding the United Nations, NOT to discourage pollution!

Now is it any suprise, that the spawn of the UN, the politically driven IPCC has pushed for urgent action (carbon taxes) to combat "global warming" (now climate change)?

[edit on 25-11-2009 by Curious and Concerned]

You can download the complete text of the Copenhagen Treaty from the link below.

Click Here

You can read, search, or download ALL Climategate emails and other information from the link below.

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We gotta remember one thing, and that's that Bill Clinton signed on to the Kyoto Treaty also, but being as he never had any support from the congress or senate, it fell by the wayside.

Obama has 2 things in his favor, a full deck of dems in both the congress and senate! God help us all!

Originally posted by thewind
We gotta remember one thing, and that's that Bill Clinton signed on to the Kyoto Treaty also, but being as he never had any support from the congress or senate, it fell by the wayside.

Obama has 2 things in his favor, a full deck of dems in both the congress and senate! God help us all!

I totally agree with you on that, does anyone think that this Senate won't try to ratify it? On this one it wouldn't be just the Democrats - there are easily enough card carrying CFR Republicans to possibly get the super majority needed.

Originally posted by factbeforefiction
In a matter of weeks President Obama is poised to literally sign away the sovereignty of The United States of America.

Really? You mean the government had the sovereignty all along?

Well... I'll be damned.

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Thank you for reposting the information from your thread. I am hoping as the date gets closer more people on ATS will get on this. It almost makes you wish there was an alien connection instead of a little thing like national sovereignty so that people would be interested.

If there are still any people who read this and believe in the global warming lie you really need to take an hour and a half out of your life and watch the Lord Christopher Monckton in St. Paul MN October 21, 2009 speech on page one of this thread.