I am surpised that this is a surprise,
Way back when I went round Africa, we were offered all sorts of drugs. We were just ordinary tourists - not under any battle stress or anything - but still, a lot of people experimented.
I imagine a blind eye is turned in many cases...

Nothing new in war... Vietnam springs to mind, both world wars crystal meth was common (yes they had that then! - just watched a docco on the stuff and it's way more than 100 years old - Hitler was said to be an addict)...

It's a shame but it's true, I doubt there has ever been a war where some sort of drug abuse was present- even encouraged... How do you think the Japanese got young men to go on suicide missions or never surrender (till they did of course)?? Crystal meth mostly! It really makes you insane...

That what happens when your troops are rejects from school, men with no education and no honor who believe that the army will pay there way through life.

These same useless troops are the ones who complain about war...then why join? A free ride? Grow up!!!!!

Originally posted by Tomis_Nexis
That what happens when your troops are rejects from school, men with no education and no honor who believe that the army will pay there way through life.

These same useless troops are the ones who complain about war...then why join? A free ride? Grow up!!!!!

I bet things start to change when bullets start flying by their ears! You would almost expect them to have some sort of awakening in that moment.

COCAINE IS A HELL OF A DRUG.

This IS Vietnam. Has no one noticed the correlation between western wars and countries that are heavy in drug production? Generally poppies.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
This IS Vietnam. Has no one noticed the correlation between western wars and countries that are heavy in drug production? Generally poppies.

to be honest, right now every country is heavy on drug production

This is been a consequence of war and violence from basically the beginning of war and violence.

Alexander's troops were chewing on Opium Leaves to dull the pain and fatique of long marches and minor wounds, that they found in the very same hills of Afghanistan that thanks to the World Wide War on Terror are once more flooding the world's streets with Afghani Heroine reputed to be far more potent than anything coming out of Asia, Columbia or Mexico!

Most of today's synthetic pain killers like Oxy Codone, Methadone and other forms of synthetic Heroin were first invented and developed by Nazi Germany and Bayer (The original inventor & manufacturer of Heroin itself) to give German Army troops an added edge on the Russian front where some doses lastet up to 36 hours in which a soldier could fight without food or rest and maintain a euphoric state of mind the whole time.

It might even be well argued that many of the inhumane atrocities committed in combat are a result of soldiers whose perspective and humanity have been compromised by mind and concious altering narcotics.

For some reason Drugs and War go together, is it any wonder that the forerunner to the War on Terror an ill-defined vague war with few discernable goals was the War on Drugs that is equally vague and defined?

Our governments have been exploiting us at great profit to the Military and Security and Prison Industrial Complex and of our own rights, liberty and security and happiness to fight against things that seem part of the human condition from the beginning of time...violence for a political purpose and mind altering substances for any purpose.

In other words they just exploit us to fight for the sake of fighting!

Is it any wonder in a world gone mad with lust and violence that people would look for something, anything to escape reality?

The great conspiracy seems to be, in a world of black and white, up and down, left and right, where it is always a two sided coin of two polar opposites that thanks to religion which is a huge part of the war on terror (all religions not just Islam) that if by religious definition we are not in Heaven then we can only by opposite extension already be residing in hell.

A hell full of violence, drugs, inhumanity and ever conceivable torture and crime known to human kind.

We really need to wake up to the reality of our situation here on this planet and change it while there is still a planet left to change the reality of!

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
This IS Vietnam. Has no one noticed the correlation between western wars and countries that are heavy in drug production? Generally poppies.

to be honest, right now every country is heavy on drug production

Very true, however, there are certain areas that are much more abundant in poppies, or cacao, etc. And those just happen to be the countries we have been at odds with from 40 years.

Originally posted by Tomis_Nexis
That what happens when your troops are rejects from school, men with no education and no honor who believe that the army will pay there way through life.

Geez, what a lame post. You still believing that tripe? No education and no honor? Sorry, Craftsman, but I've seen more of both (especially honor) in the military than in the civilian world by far.

Drug abuse? Yep, it happens. I do find it funny that they were quick to blame US troops for it, tho.

When you visit the lovely Mediteranean seaside towns in Croatia you see strung out vets from their War of Independence in the 90s that were pumped full of smack to be able to fight frontline, it was standard issue from superiors.

Afghanistan is just such a cock-up on so many levels, it still produces 95% of the worlds opium, and with all those multinational troops there, are they there to harvest for the CIA or what? Its a well known conspiracy that this industry helps fund the CIA.

How can over 1 billion from trafficikiing revenue be generated for AlQeida and the Taliban with such a enourmous occupying force?
Because the minister for Narcostics (brother of the president) is as a corrupt gazzilionaire, as is the Pakistani counterpart that allows the supply through the border.

Our Diggers getting hooked is no shock, what they see there is nothing they can be prepared for through training, not to mention accessibilty to product. I would be suprised if coalition forces protected shipments un knowingly by some troops. very sad that the individual soldier is abused and manipulated in so many ways over there They were told they were fighting for their country, but that reason dissapeared a long time ago.





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It's a load of hypocritical nonsense, solders are prescribed and even just given by superiors many kinds of pharmaceuticals, quite a few are stronger than illegal drugs or taken in such huge quantities produce the same effect. It's always been that way, I was talking to a friend who was out in Iraq last year - he was given amphetamines/stimulants while on an extended duty to keep him alert.

Now, I have full faith that most of these drugs, illegal or otherwise do provide benefits to soldiers and are safe as long as use is kept in relative moderation (just like anything in this world). To me the biggest conspiracy here is that the only reason certain things are now illegal is to fund military black ops, the CIA are making a killing from solders killing in Afghanistan. Just think of all that cheap, easily available and controlled opium, hmm...

The only thing worthy of note here is that STILL people are suprised about this stuff. What did you think was going to happen people ? You get a bunch of guys who see blood and death in thier lives, a bunch of dudes in the location who can sell them "oblivion" or some release from reality , and you expect these people not to take them up on it ? Are you serious?
I dont care what you do about this , I dont mind what you say about it , but dont you dare be suprised that troops are getting high of the fat of the land . Theres no point . Either your collective shock is a result of ignorance, or you just havent got a clue what sort of mental stresses can be caused by any form of military action.