Wide spread insanity within the community over the force of words! HOUGH HIGH and the 10 O'CLOCK NE, page 1

reply to post by Alethea

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Logicaly L. Ron Hubbards statement is sound enough for me. And I will certainly not appeal to your push button philosophy about Scientology Membership.

Where then is psychology with its so called release of energy contained within swear words. It is definitely a release of bad energy but with no discharge of its source. Where then is your beloved psychology at the ice pick store shopping? Tom Cruise would be proud very proud Indeed!
By the way I have had some trollings but no trawlings. Peace Out
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reply to post by Denver

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"Words are only symbols which represent actions"

I can't believe Hubbard said that. Actually I do , nevermind.
Words represent a lot more than that. They come together to represent concepts. They represent ideas and emotion and they are a very potent tool.

Case in point:

Nobody in their right mind would ever name their child "dumbass" right?
Can you imagine the effect that would have?
Every other child the kid grew up with would be unable to refrain from taunting that child.

Now that's an extreme scenario. But think about it and then tell me that words have no power.

SHakespeare was being poetic and beautiful when he wrote "what's in a name?"
He wanted to show that the family name Cabriolet and the name Montague were not actually significant. The family name/feud should not have mattered when it came to the love that the two characters felt.
And he's right , it shouldn't have mattered, but it did; those names/words mattered to every other character in the play just as names/words matter in the real world.

Find somebody whose name is dumbass and ask him "what's in a name?"
I'm sure he will tell you how much there is in a name or in a word.
Words are more powerful than you and Hubbard realize.

reply to post by damwel

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I have definitely been had and you my friend have been fixed.
Things are not what they appear and logically speaking it is correct and that is all there is to it. End of contention.

reply to post by Denver

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Words are only symbols which represent actions.

Isn't this a very limited perception? Only actions? Not emotions and thoughts too? We might have to delete every word not a verb.

If thought has energy, then so too must a spoken word. No good looking for it on the hand in front of your mouth when it's effect is in the listener's thoughts and feelings.

Originally posted by Denver
reply to post by Alethea

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Where then is psychology with its so called release of energy contained within swear words. It is definitely a release of bad energy but with no discharge of its source.

I'm no supporter of the Mental Health Industry, but, Bad energy?

I thought it would be just energy, while the "bad" bit would be an attachment to a value judgement. Words are words, they have no value judgement other than what the individual places 'on' them.

Swear words are expletives, and are said with force of feeling created by a thought, hence why they can feel releasing to some people using them at an appropriate time and place. Everything has a place, we tend to forget that a lot.

On Scientology: A friend was with the Sea Org for many years and worked excessively long hours while her children were being educated, although she got to see them for about 2 hours per day.

The Sea Org is what back in Hitler's time would have been called the SS. Thay are responsible for the Overseeing of all Followers, all Auditing.. which is a forced program you would know if you have been audited to clear some perceived emotional attachment, and the enforcement of the draconian laws that were never a part of Hubbard's original belief structure.. it is something that came after his death.

My thoughts : It is more effective to simply find a teacher who can show you how to connect with the great teacher within you. Then you will have no need of a church, a circle, a Guru, a Leader or anything that requires such hideously mutated belief structures.

reply to post by dragonsmusic

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Life is what you make of it and so it goes with its words too! If you would like a dumbass then by all means have one.

reply to post by Signals

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And now ther is some contention about capitalism but oh well it is an american way of life. So Damn the critics!

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reply to post by Tayesin

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It is not emotion that we are trying to delete but that misemotion that we are so commonly experiencing.

reply to post by Denver

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Yeah I'd like to have my own dumbass. That's exactly what I was saying!



Life is what you make of it, I agree. But since words are the tool that you consciously use to form your thoughts then they have to be respected.

reply to post by dragonsmusic

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Words don't have to be respected people do and so things don't change we do. Peace

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reply to post by Denver

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"Hough High" HOUGH = Prostitute within the
reactive bank of the not so sentient community.

And within the reactive bank of the slightly more sentient of us, it was a reference to the seven dwarves.

I think the "reactive mind" concept is more usefully applied to emotion. Yes, difficulty can result from confusing symbols with the concepts we choose to associate with them, but association can be a useful concept at this level of existence, even if it is prone to a contain some degree of error and inaccuracy. If you ask me where los angeles is, and I tell you that it is in southern california, there is a great deal of imprecision in that answer. Nevertheless, in most cases it would be a far more useful answer than precise lattitude and longitude.

Imprecision is not always a bad thing.

reply to post by Tayesin

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Isn't this a very limited perception? Only actions? Not emotions and thoughts too? We might have to delete every word not a verb.

According to scientology, so far as I understand it...emotions and thoughts are actions.

reply to post by dragonsmusic

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You and I both know why you wouldn't want to name your child dumbass and it is because society is very cruel natured about such labels and it is this very nature cruelty and not kindness that you do not want to change within society because you insist that words not actions have force.

reply to post by LordBucket

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We want the right emotions and the right actions from words not the neagative ones that slang words are so commonly associated with. The Three Stooges Disorder In The Court Curly Is everybody Dumb?

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