I've seen so many of them thru the last years that i hardly notice them anymore.

My guess this is the "other" chemicals they need that when combined with the first series of spraying this stuff is sure to do the most damage.
Its like shooting someone TWICE in the head. One for the road.

got any picture of this chekerboard pattern?

Termite I checked out those photos on that first site...I gotta say that I have seen all of these formations in North Dakota in an area that doesn't se eplanes...AT AL...the boiling clouds are mammatus which typically bring rain behind them. I see some whispy cirrus clouds that are indicative of the specific wind currents flowing through at that moment

I see nothing scary in that at all...and while I am at it why haven't thousands died when all this nasty stuff get's 'sprayed' on us?

We have a coupld people die in a marathon...one of the HARDEST races around and they blamed it on trails...

I smell nothing on this one

-Kyo

There is also the same evidence that the barium came from nearby plants

Try not to assume I am stupid in such matters. I've spent time and listened to both sides. I am speaking directly the the people who think they are trying to kill us. Now...I will play devil's advocate here

Let's say I have never seen a real chemtrail...if that is the case then clearly Chicago isn't part of the chemtrail system. I have seen conrtails in the air that dissapate slowly and literally turn into a cloud formation. I know that agencies have sprayed to test or manipulate weather but if that is all that is happening then what is the conspiracy here? Publicly people have admitted to working with weather through salts but that isn't a danger to us.

No the problem is some think we are being sprayed for population reduction. That is where I shake my head. I have seen thousands of contrails in my time. I used to live in an approach zone to OHare. Now I live in a different approach zone to OHare and also one to Midway. Contrails are nothing to worry about and I have seen with my eyes a contrail form, dissipate (and with proper weather) stay in the air for hours.

So where is the danger?

But yes I haven't delved as deep in debate as you so I guess my factors mean little. I've studied the weather, I've seen the videos...I see nothing

If that means I am stupid to you then so be it...at least I am sensible enough to not be awake nights freaking out about the big bad planes when others have shown that contrails look and behave exactly liek the supposed chemtrails.

So in summation...yes we all know weather testing and spraying happens but I doubt honestly that we are spraying deadly chemicals to reduce the population because Obama, Bush and all the rest are getting hit with the same stuff...it just doesn't make sense to me to think they would try to kill us off.

For the sake of argument let's say you Termite are TPTB. You decide to wipe out a ton of us. For what reason? Why get rid of us when you endanger yourself in the process? Also, if this is your idea who will you rule once we're all dead? If you are trying to spare the elite then spraying is horrible. The wind could carry your barium for hundreds of miles before it touches ground.

There...that sound like a typical answer?

-Kyo

Even if it was simple like the Gov was just trying to minipulate the weather or what not. Its still jacked up simply cause ANY kind of chemical sprayed in the air CAN NOT BE GOOD FOR PEOPLE OR THE PLANET long term.

Just the simple point of them ruining the skies and making them ugly to look at is enough for me to be pissed and want them to stop. Maybe thats the tree hugger in me.

[edit on 11/23/2009 by Termite197]

Well now you have definately got me wanting to know...what have you seen them capable of and in what capacity do you refer to?

I applause the fact that you don't jump me for disagreeing..civility is alive an well

Yes I can admit creating clouds could eb a nuissance but from what I see they are trying to slow global warming by cloud seeding.

-Kyo

Originally posted by calstorm
We have them daily like that here in california. I see them so often that I really don't pay attention any more.

I see them pretty much daily here in California also. I can't help but pay attention. Often I am pissed; sometimes I just wonder wth is going on; sometimes I want everyone around me who're scurrying around trying to make a living, trying to be the one ahead of all the other cars, trying to look like what the media tells us to look like, trying to impress others with their big rims or big trucks or prettier hair - I just want to shake them awake to look up and look around and see that there's more going on than sales.

The few people that I have mentioned, or even pointed out chemtrails to, didn't give it much of a second thought.

::shaking self out of rant mode:: But yeh, OP, I don't know what we can do other than pray, hope for the best or whatever works for each individual. I wish the best to all of us.

Chemtrails... they don't even seem to be a threat. I feel Ok. STILL.

I want to know why people are freaking out at this.

And could that be the cause of why Wisconsin was so foggy today? Or was it just that cheese factory down the road again?

With all these reports of Chemtrails everywhere I just don't know what I am going to do now. I heard that if you duct-tape your door openings and all your windows, a family can live for 36 more hours than usual. I really hope we are all not about to die. This poison in the air is sickening. I also heard that if you shine a green laser light at the chem-trails it dissolves the bacteria, virus', chemicals, and radioactive dust particles. I don't have a green laser yet, but It is on the way.

does anyone find it a tad continent that "THEY" seem to spray a lot of "CHEMTRAILS" when the weather pattern is perfect for con trail formation? It would almost seem that one with a logical mind would ask a weather man if there is a high probability for con trail formation and finish up the research quick enough to catch the game. Or of course you could go on believing that "they" are after you.

That's my big wonder...it just...ugh I am thinking this is such BS

contrails have happened since we've been flying jets...nowadays we have thousands of jets over damn near every inch of this country

So let me ask this of the CT believers....do you believe normal contrails do exist?

-Kyo

Originally posted by expat2368
I hate to rain on your chemtrails but I gotta believe its just normal air traffic.
There are a lot of things going on that I can get my conspiratorial mind around but I just cringe when I see postings about chemtrails.

Just think about the number of people that would have to be complicit, and knowingly dump biologicals or chemicals on potentially friends and family. We are talking mass murder here on the scale of the NAZIs!

Only thing I can say is "get a grip!"

Expat. Dear oh dear.... who is it exactly that needs to get a grip??? Whose reality needs raining on??

Just keep taking those pills eh?

Same as the feeble 9/11 excuse... how to keep it hush?
You never heard of the "classified" info? The "official secrets act"? Israel above all others?? NWO etc....

I have a friend in the German Air Force and even he and his fellow pilots wonder what on earth is coming out of their planes!!

According to you, they are just imagining it...

OMG!!!!!!!!!

I suppose me and my friends are also merely imagining the Chemtrails disappear after we position Chembusters??? Course we are... We need to get a grip eh? After following chemtrails for over 6 years, we don't know what we are talking about do we? You know it all don't you?

Well done Einstein.............. Or should I say 'Agent' Einstein????????????